my past cycle i cut from 210/215ish to 195,then did ipam through PCT, and looked a bit flat but still lean and decently strong and i switched up the routine and kept the diet the same, but am back up to 200, vascular and strong. going to keep at it till august, cheat/party a bit early in the month, then go on a serious cut until sept - then slowly up the cals and bulker cycle