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Has anyone heard anything about the Scirion Institute? Their program is the most expensive I've seen. How about employment by them? Does anyone know anything about being one of their proctors?
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personaltrainer101 said:
Hey PT101! You might not have heard of Scirion before becuase they are relatively new to the industry. They are based out of California. They are kinda like ACE or NASM ecxept their exams are much harder. My friend is a proctor for them and so I wanted to take their exam because I needed to get re-certified.(Plus he gets paid to proctor my exams!) Anyway, he showed me their study materials and I have to say, they are probably the smartest materials I've seen. Usually you get this huge book and are expected to read it from cover to cover (highly unlikely). I was impressed by the Scirion materials because their fresh and easy to read. Really good stuff. If you're interested in getting certified, I recommend three others too, ACE, NASM and ACSM. I've heard the Scirion exam is better than all three and that's why I have yet to take it
I don't want to fail!trihhher69
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The way to go is to get ACSM certiifed. They are the leaders in fitness credentials and they have years of practical research in their program. I recently received my Masters in Exercise Physiology and I have a B.S. from Indiana University and the program we studied a lot was the ACSM program. Scirion Institute is a fitness agency. You do not need a degree to get certified by them. They do have tough programs and they probably have one of the most competent, well respected certs out there today and so their a safe bet. I agree with considering ACE but I would also look into ISSA because those guys have been around for a while and so there is much development there.
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Hi frog! Scirion seems to be a very big issue these days because they are new to the industry. I learned about them not too long ago and since have been bombarded with questions from people who want to know more about them and APPT. I'm still gathering information about APPT (there isn't much out there online) but as soon as I get a good handle on who they are, I'll bring my findings to this thread. As far as Scirion Institute is concerned, I've done extensive research on that company and I have to say I was very impressed with their program and their philosophy. Everything from how they design their study materials to the complexity of their written exams. I don't think they're for everyone though. For someone who is new to fitness and wants to get certified, I wouldn't recommend them. I'm not sure what type of information specifically you needed, but if this doesn't help, here are the other links I provided on my thread about my ISSA cert. This should help provide different insight from folks across the country which I think is really good because fitness is perceived differently in other parts of the country.
http://www.newomen.com/phpBB_14+index-action-viewtopic-topic-292.html
http://www.healthandfitnessforums.com/discus/messages/64/4367.html
http://www.newomen.com/phpBB_14+index-action-viewtopic-topic-292.html
http://www.healthandfitnessforums.com/discus/messages/64/4367.html
trihhher69 said:
Hi there again, I wanted to ask you in the other thread, what do you base your opinion on? have you seen the study materials? read them? taken the actual exam? practical and written? they have been around since 1997, and if they have not made an impact yet, it makes me wonder why? what else do you know... all info is much appreciated...
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I've seen their study materials and I think they are smart for two reasons: 1) The study materials are in "notebook" format. Apparently, this makes it easy for them to update the contents. Have you seen an ACE manual lately? Look inside and the food pryamid will be outdated. Text books are too expensive to revolumize (new word) every year and I think that's why most manuals are dated. 2) They are designed for true learning. You don't just memorize definitions from the back of the book.
I think it may just boil down to who you're dealing with. Let's take you for example. I've stated my positive opinion (as have others) about Scirion. I provided addresses to other forums where the opinion about Scirion is very good. Yet, you will refuse to accept they are the real deal. You seem to keep pushing and pushing the subject until someone finally says something bad about them. If you ask enough people, I gaurantee you'll find someone who hates them for what ever reason. Not everybody will like them. I do think they're a great addition to the certification industry based on people I've spoken to, things I've read and just my own take on the industry. But it's America!! They are not the only game in town. If you want to believe they are not good, I'm not hear to convince you otherwise. Even though I should be getting paid as a spokesman, I'm not!! But I think it is definitely who you talk to. People just won't accept anything but what they know to be the standard (i.e. ACE, AFAA, NASM, ISSA blah, blah, blah) I just don't see what all the hype is about when it comes to ACE and some others. I've talked to people certified by ACE. I've watched them train. I am not impressed. I'm sorry. If you're truthful, I'm sure you'll agree with me at least on that point.
I think it may just boil down to who you're dealing with. Let's take you for example. I've stated my positive opinion (as have others) about Scirion. I provided addresses to other forums where the opinion about Scirion is very good. Yet, you will refuse to accept they are the real deal. You seem to keep pushing and pushing the subject until someone finally says something bad about them. If you ask enough people, I gaurantee you'll find someone who hates them for what ever reason. Not everybody will like them. I do think they're a great addition to the certification industry based on people I've spoken to, things I've read and just my own take on the industry. But it's America!! They are not the only game in town. If you want to believe they are not good, I'm not hear to convince you otherwise. Even though I should be getting paid as a spokesman, I'm not!! But I think it is definitely who you talk to. People just won't accept anything but what they know to be the standard (i.e. ACE, AFAA, NASM, ISSA blah, blah, blah) I just don't see what all the hype is about when it comes to ACE and some others. I've talked to people certified by ACE. I've watched them train. I am not impressed. I'm sorry. If you're truthful, I'm sure you'll agree with me at least on that point.
trihhher69 said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply.like I said 2 times already.... I'm just looking for info. The only things I have heard is "the test is hard" and not due to the content but based on the way the test is written. Look at your links, it's in there. I'm also looking for CURRENT info. the links you gave me are from 04 and 05. Sorry to have upset you.
I'm looking for GOOD things, I'm trying to find something positive, but I can't even find anyone in my area that has even heard of them, thats not my fault! the only real "good" info has come from you, but still it's based upon your opinion, but from what you have said it seems as though you have a good understanding of the industry.
I called Scirion yesterday during normal business hours and could not get someone on the phone, just voice mail asking for an extension maybe their website is outdated with old info?
Anywho, I don't knock anyone or any trainer, agency or association etc. There will always be a "better" everything in someones opinion. I think people will accept it (scirion) as gains awareness, but having been around for close to 10 years, when it that going to happen?
Everyone wants to get the "best" cert. of course, but with so many having flooded the industry to make a buck on certs, renewals and ceu's it's hard to weed out the good from the bad. So people go with what they know is good and accepted, so they can get a job with out hassle, I'm sure you realize that. Most trainers I know and work with have a an AA in human performance or BA or MA in exercise physiology some of them are ATC's (NATA) but still needed a trainer cert and didnt want to go thru a proctored exam, they had actual experience and wanted a cert to work and/or get cheaper insurance. There are reasons people go the aafa, nasm, ifpa, bla bla bla route... it does not mean they know less because of it.
One thing I have learned is a cert not a trainer make. i have also learned not to judge other trainers. (being unsafe is a whole nother issue) There are many components in the making of a really good compentent trainer.
I would not snub my nose at anyone just because they have a so called, inferior certification especially if don't know their background, or experience. But anyway, thanks again for the info.
trihhher69
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I agree with you. And by the way, I'm not upset...it just seems like your kinda obsessed or something. You've been asking everybody you know about them, researching, going oinline, calling....Why are you stressing so badly? Do you own stock in their company or something?
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