Your take on using performance enhancing drugs?

[Sebass67]

Yeah i see what you are driving at. But than can u say that the extra $200 on top is free? at least relative to the natural bodybuilder who will have to work another 20hrs to get that.

See what i am getting at?

I love controversy.

 

[Ingram]

So I work 40 hours a week and make $400. You work 40 hours a week and make $600. Are you working less to make $400? Yes. But you're not just doing enough work to make $400, you're doing 40 hours. You just end up with more money in your pocket...

See what I'm driving at?

Yes and you will continue to make $400 a week untill you get a better job!

See what I'm driving at?

 

[ZenMachine]

The point is that the input (work) is still the same, just the output changes (results).

I agree with needsize. Until I would reach a point of my natural limits, I am not interested in using steriods.

Zen

 

[Jabs]

I think you have to train long enough to know how to use form properly and you have to know how to get past sticking points and of course the diet has to be down. I've met many ecto's in my gym who claim they can't grow an inch and then I look and their diet and it sucks no dedication and then they sauce out of frustration. They grow for a while then they lose most of their gains because their diet can't feed their new body weight.

 

[cozmokramer]

I believe that just because you inject yourself, it doesn't mean you
are going to get huge size... you still have to work your ass off for
good gains.

I think that with gear or without, the most important thing is solid
work ethic in the gym and when eating. I've seen tons of people
use gear and gain just a tiny bit on a cycle where they could have
gained twice or three times as much... why....? because they didn't
work out hard.

 

[BatZgirl]

Well

Im not realy for steroids but most people dont seem to know what steroids do. Its not how most people think: if you take steroids you'll get a good build NO NO NO. Even if you take steroids then you need to train otherwise the effect of them will not be successfull.

Some people have excellent genetics and can build muscles quickly while others have (no offence) shit genetics and train like crazy but just dont pic up size and yes then they need steroids

Not everyone needs them but still they take them to get bigger then what they need. I know a guy who looks horrible, he has a small head and this HUGE body, it looks rediculous

 

[nikolai_bolkov]

It's a personal thing. There are no rules, if you wanna use then use. Natural limits my ass. I want to look good sooner rather than later.

How fair is it for some people to look ripped because of their genetics? Not to me, my genetics are not that good, and I'll do what I have to to get where I want.