Other than Nick, there is very little talant there. For All Tid was godly, but moreso because it was second generation black metal, back when black metal was about feeling and atmosphere.
There is far too much crap out there nowadays... although, many bands are making excellent music and have excellent production (Dimmu's last couple albums had great production, I think). Mayhem is a prime example. I am not really a fan of Grand Declaration, but it is a great album nonetheless.
so if I was to give these guys another chance, what is a kick ass album you'd recommend (if this album also sucks I will place Iced Earth on my "sucks" list).
Honestly, the album does not suck. It's just that I often define a band by their singer, and Barlow was godly. I placed him under Bruce, Eric Adams, and Kiske for one of the best metal voices (or, at least, my favourite) of all time. [Although I don't think anyone can top Bruce's human air raid siren or Adam's power, like in Nessun Dorma]
I think The Dark Saga was one of their best albums, followed up by Burnt Offerings and Something Wicked. I don't know why, but the song A Question Of Heaven is one of my favorite songs from them... akin to Manowar's Master Of The Wind.