You Are Not Safe........

[jdabs]

Originally posted by George S.

Supporting the site with a Platinum membership has nothing to do with tracking your posts back to your real identity

How in the hell do you figure this? My platinum member ship was paid for by MY creditcard to allow MY username to have platinum access, THEREFOR has a lot to do with the ability of my posts being tracked back to my real identity.

Another thing, I use a server that has a very very secure network, and does not have ANY one persons name attached to the computer as a user nor is it supposed to. I also never gave YOU or any other person attached to this company my REAL name, except to sign up for platinum for all these GREAT benefits, which never seem to be resolved, and or never appear.

(Gotta love all the ads that pop up on your screen if you are typing an email for 4-5 minutes which boots you back to non-platinum status)

Needless to say, maybe I'm being a little bitchy, and whining about something that isn't as serious as it seems to me and many others but don't try to blow smoke up my ass saying there isn't a security issue, especially when you say yourself that there are many ways this can take place, that seems like you still don't know what happened.

All I want to know is how YOUR email system found out MY real name being that I used this account on a computer that isn't affiliated with my name, just a number, and that the only person/company that has ever recieved my real info from this email account is you.

Still not happy with skating around the issue, I want a real, specific answer. IF it was your email servers sending out one of your Great body building articles, like the one about ala, then YOUR servers should have a copy with a date and time stamp to match all the fucking emails that have shown up with our real names. Please if you can, verify this.

Jdabs

 

[Dr.M]

Since it takes about a day for Platinum to take hold, I would assume this is approved by hand and they are not linked or included in the same database.

 

[Fonz]

Yes, I read Orwell's 1984.
Barbell, billy,.....this is exactly my situation. This is a serious breach of the system......looks like a LE hack to me. George's tech guys need to get on this or I will be abandoning the system forthwith.

Use the new 128-bit PGP. EF mail can and has been hacked.

Fonz

 

[jdabs]

Originally posted by DrM.

Since it takes about a day for Platinum to take hold, I would assume this is approved by hand and they are not linked or included in the same database.

One could hope.....

Whether or not they are linked or included on the same database makes absolutely no difference if the servers that include both databases are compromised.

However I believe the above statement is not correct simply because, Platinum is not a LIFETIME membership. It is a month to month, and unless you can tell me that someone at elitefitness is checking on accounts that are expiring ever day to try to get people to resign up and doing it all by hand then I'm going to have to say that my username and platinum access is directly linked. I mean think about it, many online subscriptions take a day or so to activate, however when your account expires or gets close to, you sure as hell get an email asking you if you want to reapply and many of them ask you if you want to use the same funding methods as in the past.


Jdabs

P.S. Fonz, thanks for your honesty even if it isn't what many wanted to hear.

 

[ironmaster]

Well, I've been away all day and come back to find no plausible explanation to the problem. (except fonz's honest answer). I believe jdabs is 100% correct. I have never associated my real name and my elite screen name EXCEPT when paying elite by credit card. And, I used some initials when I payed just to see if I got any advertising that way. No ads, just this.
I'll send George another copy of the offending email just to be sure he understands. Bottom line.......somewhere in the system my name and moniker have been put together, and glitch or hack.....it needs fixed!

 

[ironmaster]

Bumping cause I'd like an explanation. Straight up folks own up to it if there is a problem.......so we can protect ourselves. Hey, shit goes wrong with technology.....I understand that, but nobody likes getting stonewalled.

 

[newpump]

I wonder if elitefitness has ever has a network, host and application security assessment performed by a major (and reputable - not a small mom and pop shop) security provider? Would be nifty if they did a comprehensive check - and posted it in a secure location for paying people (platinum) to see (with the security sensitve areas blacked out maybe - IP addy's system names etc etc). They could also perform periodic scans after the initial scan and provide them as proof too - this would be a GREAT value add in my opinion.

 

[emptywallet]

I see whats going on here. It amazes me as well. Ironmaster you guys are saying, the only time you have used your real name, or any form of a real name, is when signing up for platinum access, so when you get an email with your real name, IT MUST HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH YOU SIGNING UP FOR PLATINUM. Which means that if they can access your real name that you registered for platinm wiht, then they must be able to see all the other info to? Credit cards and they like? George that sounds like to me that maybe EFmail hasnt been hacked, but your records for everyone's platinum signup has been cracked in to. And in all honesty George, you may be working on the problem, but from what your posting here, it seems like your skating around the issue. I havent seen you answer the question ironmaster posted yet without fluffing it a little.

 

[ironmaster]

That's exactly right, empty.....so up she goes.

 

[ROAD DOG]

Why don't someone post a poll to see what kind of srtange e-mails people are getting on their elite mail,platinum and non platinum.I think that would help clear alot of things up.I would post a poll but I am not sure I know how,I have never tried before.I am an idiot when it comes to computers.