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yet another Newbie Dbol only cycle questions

injecting is not a superiority complex you moron, its what serious lifters who don't want to damage their livers do, also if you ever want any quality gains you have to inject, no one gives a shit about you remember that, so if you want advice don't go nuts when people tell you the truth that you don't want to hear, learn how to lift, than eat, then see if you can stick a dart in your ass
 
BallysAddict said:
Ive already said like twice in this thread, im 20. And thanks for the laugh Bruce410, you're a funny guy...
i know how funny i am but i also know that it took 4 years of serious weight lifting for me to reach a limit that i couldn't break, then i took no2 otc from gnc, which i think you should try first, put on a little more muscle, then turned to juice, and my diet and work ethic allowed me to put on 17 lbs on just deca this past 12 weeks, i call it my first cycle cause it is the first time i did it right. listen to these guys if you wanna look awesome, don't take dbol, you will look great for a month after and then it goes away, take some eq for 14 weeks injecting twice a week, its nothing, and you can keep a good 15-20 pounds of solid shredded muscle, its what you want and its what girls want, i am only taking the time to write this because it took a lot for me to start growing good muscle and you should do it right. if your gonna take my time and others who are genius's on these topics, then listen. and if you must do oral juice, i will tell you this, get some anavar and train like crazy, it is the safest oral, and it will help your tendons grow stronger as well. if you eat right you can bulk with any juice, dbol is done. pm me if you want to quality info, i will save you the time of researching this once because i don't want to see a 20 year old go down the shitter cause of lack of knowledge. you made the right first step in coming here, now make the second and listen, like i said if you have to juice get var, and pm me and i can tell you where to research it
 
khemix said:
Alright here is what i think you should do.

Dbol, 25-30mg/ed, Weeks 1-6

Tapering doesn't make a difference with orals really. Throughout the entire cycle you should be taking lots of Tylers Liver Detox and milk thistle to help your liver out.. If you don't want the bloat from the dbol (which is what 80% of your gains will be)take 25-50mg of proviron ed throughout.

You should stick with the normal clomid regiment for PCT and if you want your nuts to drop back down quicker, throw in some HCG but I'm not sure off-hand at what IU though.

Enjoy...

Chris

(edit: PS. How old are you....?)

What he said..but I am using the proviron in the last two weeks of the Dbol, then switching to Winny for the final two weeks hopefully for elimination of the majority of the water weight.

I tapered up, but I am not going to taper down. I only drastically tapered up becuase I wanted to make sure my body wouldn't revolt, so I started at very low doseages. If I were to do it again, I would start at 20, wait for gains to slow, then up to 25...For safety reasons, I will personally not go higher than that.

BTW, after 25 days, my nuts are still big and round, and my nipples flat and hard, but YMMV.

And thanks to the OP for giving my log props, but please understand I did a lot of research, have been lifting for over 20 years, and started with a strong base of lean muscle. I hope the young guys don't look at my log and think low dosages will give you an easy 12 pounds of muscle in 3 weeks. I am working hard and eating clean, but like a madman. I am eating, sleeping and breathing this cycle 24 hours a day, and to be honest, I am looking forward to the end. Insomnia, zits and back pumps can get a little old.

Dbol only is not easy - you have to make your body as efficient as it can be at making muscle, and you have to protect it as well. I agree with bicepts101, orals are not the best choice, but they are a choice that many take regardless - best to give them accurate information, becuase bros are going to do it either way.

Good luck,


Bluesman
 
khemix said:
Alright here is what i think you should do.

Dbol, 25-30mg/ed, Weeks 1-6

Tapering doesn't make a difference with orals really. Throughout the entire cycle you should be taking lots of Tylers Liver Detox and milk thistle to help your liver out.. If you don't want the bloat from the dbol (which is what 80% of your gains will be)take 25-50mg of proviron ed throughout.

You should stick with the normal clomid regiment for PCT and if you want your nuts to drop back down quicker, throw in some HCG but I'm not sure off-hand at what IU though.

Enjoy...

Chris

(edit: PS. How old are you....?)
This sounds like my exact cycle I'm on now
 
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