yet another Newbie Dbol only cycle questions

[BallysAddict]

I've been working out for almost a year sometimes going twice a week up to 5-6 times a week. Mostly doing the usual muscle groups, but also throwing some cardio in there as well. When I first started i weighed arouns 220 and feel like ive come a long way naturally so far. The only max I have at this point is bench and thats anywhere from 230-250 depending on how im feelin that day (i know i know nothing special...). Anyways I want to finally try some Dbol that I can get from a friend of mine. I've been researching it off and on for a few months on this website, but am still confused i think. This would be my cycle, so far. Let me know what is wrong and what i need to change to get an effective cycel. By the way, the Dbol is oral, i hate needles.

1st week: 10mg Dbol
2nd-5th week: 25mg Dbol
6th week: 10mg Dbol

While im taking the Dbol, I will obviously need and anti-e and some milk thistle from what ive read. Most people have been taking Nolva for the anti-e correct? Then for the PCT ive heard so many thing i dont even know where to start. I know Nolva, Clomid, and possibly HCG are pretty common. How much of this do i take per day and for how long after my last week being "on". What about Hawthorn Berry and Saw Palmetto in the PCT as well? Let me know, help me out here.

 

[Neo22]

You just need to inject some steel cut oats and quit being a pussy. Stay away from an oral only first cycle. If you are going to do it, do it RIGHT the first time.

 

[RuckstaR]

If you have only been working out for a year, then you should not be thinking of gear just yet, you have alot of natural gains ahead of you, that can be boosted with OTC stuff like creatine etc. However, you didn't ask if you should, so back on topic.....

I would get rid of the ramping, (it's benefit has basicly been proven pointless) and stay with a steady 20mg dose for the whole time.

I would have nolva on hand incase gyno pops up, but with dbol dosages that low you shouldnt need to take an anti-E throughout the cycle.

Take Milk Thistle with ALA and/or NAC all at 1g a day to protect your liver throughout your cycle.

Hawthorne berry and SP are not for PCT, those are support supps that would be great to take during your cycle the same as milk thistle etc.

As far as PCT goes, for your cycle I would use a nolva only PCT. 40mg/day for 2 weeks, and then 20mg/day for 2 weeks. A good solid PCT combined with some creatine, tons of quality food and rest, plus intensity in the gym will allow you to keep a better part of your gains. Cheers

 

[YankeesMan]

You just need to inject some steel cut oats and quit being a pussy. Stay away from an oral only first cycle. If you are going to do it, do it RIGHT the first time.

Is this really nescessary or helpful?

 

[swordfish151]

interesting...how old are you chief? Let me be honest with you...no one will recommend an oral cyle only...Test should be your first cycle...yes that means injecting....if your affraid of needles..then you should not be messing or thinking about steriods. Another thing...a couple of months of research wont do you any good...man there are some guys on here that have researched aas for years until they came to the sound choice of going forth with it.....INJECT or step DOWN!

 

[tahoe2003]

what's the sideeffects of dbol

 

[Makavelli]

interesting...how old are you chief? Let me be honest with you...no one will recommend an oral cyle only...Test should be your first cycle...yes that means injecting....if your affraid of needles..then you should not be messing or thinking about steriods. Another thing...a couple of months of research wont do you any good...man there are some guys on here that have researched aas for years until they came to the sound choice of going forth with it.....INJECT or step DOWN!

Yep. I've been training since I was 12 and researched AAS for years B4 I finally took the plunge when I was 27.

 

[BallysAddict]

I'm 20 years old.

I'll most likely go to injections if I like what I see after this cycle of Dbol. Ya I know no one likes the oral stuff, but look at Bluesman in the other recent thread, his thread has encouraged me and he started at only 5mg!! I have to be honest, i think part of the "inject or step down" stuff is superiority complex. Just because you can inject doesnt make u some badass bodybuilder. I understand that oral AAS are worse for you and might not give the gains of injection, but Im going to work with what i got. I need some more comments/help on my cycle, besides the bashing, thanks!

RuckStar, thanks for the great info!

 

[monkey arms]

Go for it! Expect to have marginal gains in size and strength and be ready to return to your previous size and strength with in a few weeks after stopping.

 

[Zell959]

I have to be honest, i think part of the "inject or step down" stuff is superiority complex.

I really don't think that's true. It's because a lot of people remember when they were only willing to consider oral cycles and most of that came from just a fear of injections or just not knowing enough. So when someone shows up saying they only want to run an oral cycle, most guys will say go back to the drawing board and consider injectibles in hopes of getting you to do a little more much needed research.