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Yasmin

wilson6

Elite Mentor
Contains 30 ug ethinyl estradiol and 3.0 mg drospirenone.

From their website.

YASMIN contains 3 mg of the new progestin drospirenone. Drospirenone is a spironolactone analogue, and the drospirenone in YASMIN has AntiMineralocorticoid activity equivalent to 25 mg of spironolactone. Because of this activity, YASMIN affects the sodium and water balance. Like spironolactone, YASMIN should not be used in certain women with renal, hepatic, or adrenal problems that could predispose to hyperkalemia. And, like spironolactone, women receiving daily, long-term treatment for chronic conditions or diseases with medications that may increase serum potassium should have their serum potassium level checked during the first treatment cycle.†

Drospirnone provides an AntiMineralocorticoid effect

Ethinyl estradiol, the estrogen found in today’s combination OCs, can increase the amount of angiotensinogen produced by the liver, inducing renin activity and the accompanying aldosterone release. When aldosterone activates its receptors, the kidneys reabsorb sodium and water. Drospirenone blocks aldosterone receptors in the kidney, counteracting the effect of increased aldosterone levels caused by ethinyl estradiol. While drospirenone increases sodium and water excretion, it does not promote potassium loss.

Drospirenone provides an AntiAndrogenic* effect

Unlike other progestins available in the US, drospirenone blocks the action of androgens by acting as an antagonist at the androgen receptors. In addition, drospirenone does not counteract sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) synthesis. Further, it does not prevent SHBG-testosterone binding, leaving less free testosterone to bind with androgen receptors. Finally, it inhibits production of ovarian androgens.

Clinically proven benefits of Yasmin®

YASMIN works like other combination OCs to prevent pregnancy by suppressing gonadotropins, inhibiting ovulation, and inducing changes in the cervical mucus and endometrium. With a corrected Pearl Index of 0.55, YASMIN is more than 99% effective — just as effective as other OCs. YASMIN provides excellent cycle control, with a low incidence of breakthrough bleeding and spotting. Overall, occurrences of breakthrough bleeding and spotting decreased significantly after the first 3 cycles.

Worldwide experience

YASMIN is today's fastest growing OC and has been prescribed to more than one million women worldwide. In both the US and European clinical trials, a total of 2629 patients received YASMIN tablets — with contraceptive efficacy assessed in 33,160 total cycles.

Proven tolerability profile

In clinical trials, YASMIN was shown to have a low incidence of adverse events that are typical of those associated with OC use. Blood pressure, lipids, glucose, electrolytes, and hematology values stayed within normal ranges in the majority of women in clinical trials.

YASMIN is contraindicated in patients with renal insufficiency, hepatic dysfunction, or adrenal insufficiency.

OCs do not protect against HIV infection and other sexually transmitted diseases. The use of OCs is associated with increased risks of several serious side effects. Cigarette smoking increases the risk of serious cardiovascular side effects; women who take OCs are strongly advised not to smoke.

*AntiAndrogenic activity seen in preclinical studies.
†Drugs that may increase serum potassium when taken daily and long-term for chronic conditions include ACE inhibitors, angiotensin-II receptor antagonists, potassium-sparing diuretics, heparin, aldosterone antagonists, and NSAIDs.
 
W6 -- thanks for posting that. Now this part:

Unlike other progestins available in the US, drospirenone blocks the action of androgens by acting as an antagonist at the androgen receptors. In addition, drospirenone does not counteract sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) synthesis. Further, it does not prevent SHBG-testosterone binding, leaving less free testosterone to bind with androgen receptors. Finally, it inhibits production of ovarian androgens.


How would that relate to a user of Yasmin who takes anabolics that contain androgens? Would the body be in one totally confused state?
 
"How would that relate to a user of Yasmin who takes anabolics that contain androgens?"......

Clearly you would expect reduced gains if you mixed Yasmin with androgens. However there are prolly some non-androgen receptor mediated gains from AAS, so it might not totally negate AAS. I think it would be even worse for a female BB NOT taking any androgens though. A natty BB on Yasmin sounds like something to avoid like the plague! However, it looks an interesting drug to control the symptoms in women with PCOS or other diseases of androgen excess (provided they're not trying to get pregnant).
 
Yes, I did assume that the gains would somehow be compromised but I guess the thought I did not communicate well was: would this imply that Yasmin could possibly cause whatever aas it is, to aromatize and become more estrogenic in nature? More simply put as I am being less than eloquent here (and sorry for that)....."would your efforts backfire?".

And yes, I do agree that an all natty bber should not use any oral bc OR for that matter Mirena IUD that contains a timed release-hormone [or any birth control method that uses hormones] to block pregnancy as their bodyfat level or hardness would indeed be most likely compromised.

In any event...good thread and good answers.
 
Many of the androgens used by women (winny, anavar etc...) don't aromatize anyway, so the aromatization question becomes a moot point. Additionally if you are taking an aromatizable androgen (eg testosterone) the SHBG will mop up a lot of the extra androgens you're taking, and test can't aromatize when it's bound to SHBG. So basically I don't think you would see increased fluid due to androgen aromatization, just reduced gains from your androgens.
 
Allright, W6 - you've officially scared me. Looks like Yasmin wasn't necessarily a great choice for OC.

If what I translated is correct, I basically will have even lower testosterone levels while using Yasmin, which means I'll have an even harder time putting on muscle. Not to mention a harder time getting lean, although right now I'm more concerned about putting on muscle. Is this a valid interpretation? If so, I'm quitting.
 
It doesn't help you lose fluid; it supposedly helps reduce the amount of water retention you experience. However, after one month of Yasmin use (maybe too early to tell), I can attest it didn't reduce my water retention noticeably.

I spoke with my doctor and she called in a new prescription for me. She chose it though, so I'm curious what she picked. I'll find out today.
 
rez said:
ive always been told yasmin helps you lose fluid..doesnt that mean your bf% would drop?

Water and fat are two completely different things. If dropping bodyfat were as simple as losing fluid, we could all take a diuretic and come in a few %'s lighter.

Yasmin is not a diuretic, it just lessens the amount of water that you would otherwise retain at various stages of your cycle. Subtle difference.
 
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