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Wtf I Cant Lose Weight On Dnp!!!!

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I am getting really pissed off. I have been on DNP for almost 2 weeks at 500mg ED and I have lost only 1-2lbs...

I know I do not have bad stuff due to the fact that my source has very very good rep.

What can be going wrong, why isnt the dnp working; is it possible I have built up a tolerance over the past times I have done cycles?
 
bro I just tryed to run a dnp cycle and had to stop because the temp out side I had 101.3 body temp On 400mg a day ............. 2 things can be wrong One DNp goes by body size for dosing ........... depending on your size will depend what dose .... but running it for 2 weeks ..... i would have to question the DNP was it the powder version or the crystline version ......... here is a good write up on DNP it should help you figure it out ........... I have run 10-15 cycles of DNP over the years and never did my body get used to the DNP ............






DNP Manuel
DNP

HISTORY:

DNP stands for 2,4-dinitrophenol. This is a chemical that was once used in the early 20th century to ignite dynamite and cast a yellow dye on wood and other handcrafts. A few years later demographical statistics showed that employees who worked with DNP everyday tended to lose weight, often rapidly. One fall out from this was a study conducted by Stanford University in 1920 showing that the ingestion of DNP does in fact cause weight loss. This prompted physicians to prescribe DNP to obese patients of that era. DNP was on the market for 2 decades as a weight loss drug and was eventually taken off the market and banned for human consumption by the FDA because there was a report of cataract formation among female users of this drug which turned out to be false. This chemical is still deemed too dangerous by the FDA to allow it to come back to the pharmaceutical marketplace. Over the decades of research on DNP, scientists have never shown it to have the ability to cause cancer or any other mutations despite the fact that it’s a phenol and that most phenolic compounds are carcinogenic. DNP is now only used as a research chemical and as a pesticide in a few states that still approve of its use. It is not illegal to own DNP, but it is illegal to market it for personal consumption.

MECHANISM OF ACTION:

DNP exerts its effects within the cell, more specifically within the membrane of the mitochondria. The advantage of intracellular mechanisms of action such as this is that a tolerance to DNP cannot develop. To make a long story short, DNP makes the process of ATP formation very inefficient. Why is this important? Because ATP is the energy unit needed to drive all our biochemical reactions in our body that is necessary to keep us alive. The cells in our body constantly need energy (ATP) to stay alive. The amount of ATP needed to keep a person alive depends on his/her basal metabolic rate. By making ATP formation inefficient, a person’s basal metabolic rate can increase indefinitely, but for practical uses, basal metabolic rate can safely increase by 30-50% without putting one’s life in danger. It is not unheard of for people to lose up to one pound of pure fat per day while on DNP.

If you’re not familiar with ATP, it’s what the Calories that are stored in carbs, fats, and proteins are eventually turned into. In other words, the energy that is stored in the macromolecules are transferred to the ATP molecule, but DNP disrupts this process. Instead of making ATP from macromolecules in the presence of DNP, the potential energy is just turned into heat. This is very significant because ATP levels in the body will quickly diminish and cells want to replenish that storage by breaking down more fats, carbs, etc. As you can see, a patter quickly develops where ATP levels will constantly be below normal and the body will always be trying to burn more fats, carbs, and proteins to help replenish the ATP levels. This is no different than doing aerobic exercises such as jogging, biking, etc, except while on DNP, the body is doing the aerobic exercise non stop 24 hours a day.

DOSES AND CYCLE RECOMMENDATIONS:

DNP is not a drug for everyone, definitely not the beginner who just wants to lose a couple of pounds to look better with the shirt off… Without proper education on its use, DNP can be deadly.

There are 2 forms of DNP currently on the market, pure crystalline (100% dry) DNP, and powdered DNP (usually 5-10% moisture). The crystalline version is stronger and more effective, but more caution needs to be used while using it. It acts much faster, and the side effects also subside faster as well.

I recommend between 2-6mg/kg-bw per day for crystalline DNP and 4-10mg/kg-bw for powdered DNP. A beginner should always start off at the low end to assess tolerance. Trying this for the first time 2 weeks before a competition can be disastrous. A 220lb man is 100kg exactly. This means that if he is a first time user of crystalline DNP then he should take 200mg per day. I suggest staying with this dose for at least 3 days to keep it safe, then slowly increase the dosage. 400mg/day can be used, but never take it all at once. Always split up the doses as far as possible, so for 400mg/day that would mean taking 1 200mg capsule every 12 hours. Only on rare occasions should someone attempt 600mg/day with the crystalline capsules unless it’s used by a very experienced user and all the vital signs are closely monitored.

Cycle length depends largely on the individual. At first it was thought that a DNP cycle should be limited to 10 days at the most because the thyroids shuts down and t4 to t3 conversion in the liver becomes nil, however, this is not the case. 10 days is a very arbitrary number. A person taking 200mg/day would have almost completely normal thyroid function at day 10 whereas if s/he took 600mg/day, t3 would be non existent after 3 days. While the t3 hormone plays a very large role in determining fat loss, it should not be a big concern while on DNP because the fat burning capabilities of DNP will more than compensate for the suppressed t3 levels. An advantage to suppressed t3 levels is that the body will burn much less muscle while still burning fat on DNP. Normal t3 and thyroid function is restored within a week of stopping DNP.

Ok, so how long should you do it? I suggest playing around with it and just go by how your body feels. It is not a bad idea to just take 2-3mg/kg-bw for 3-4 weeks. This causes less side effects and will have the same overall effect, but it will just take a bit longer. After you get used to 2-3mg/kg-bw, then another option is to up the dose by 1 cap and carrying that out for as long as your body can handle it because fatigue and a host of other side effects will eventually overtake you. If 2 caps/day is still too mild then repeat the above step with 3 caps per day spread out into 8-hour intervals.

Because of some water retention caused by DNP, users typically find that they look their best 4-7 days after finishing their cycle when the water has normalized.

For competitors:

Take the last DNP capsule 8 days prior to the competition date. Carb deplete after 3 days after the last cap. Carb load immediately 2 days prior to competition and stop fluid intake. This should allow for excellent glycogen super compensation within the muscles for a fuller look.

DIETARY RECOMMENDATIONS:

1. Carb deplete for 3 days prior to DNP because DNP will take a good 2-3 days to deplete the body's glycogen stores before it can efficiently burn stored fat.

2. Once on DNP eat an isocaloric diet (33% prot, 33% fat, 33% carbs) and keep the calories at around maintenance level. Restricting carbs will put the body in a state of hypoglycemia and can be dangerous to the health and also the mental well being. DNP also mimics insulin in that it shuttles glucose into the cells in the absence of glucose. This is great for fat burning, but when carb intake is too low the blood glucose can be at dangerously low levels as well. a more experienced user can switch up this ratio a bit. Either way it won't make a huge difference because it's mostly about the total calorie consumption.

This is what I’m proposing to be the optimal DNP diet (for a high dose short cycle(s) and the end of a low dose extended cycle only):

50% carbs, 35% protein, 15% fat. It’s not a misprint; carbs are essential for DNP to work properly. Keep in mind that it’s only the percentage that changes and not the total calories. From this point it will get a bit complicated, but read over it a few times and you will get the gist of it. I’ll also try to keep it as simple as possible.

When fatty acids are broken down they need to be fed into an energy cycle for a complete break down so that more can be broken down later. The beginning of this cycle is called the citric acid cycle. Fats enter the citric acid cycle as a 2-carbon molecule called acetate and to start off this cycle it needs to bind to another 2-carbon molecule called oxaloacetate. Without enough oxaloacetate this cycle cannot proceed. With little oxaloacetate this cycle is slowed down, thus fat burning is slowed down. Where does oxaloacetate come from? Several sources, but the main one is from pyruvate, the end product of the first step of glucose (carbohydrate) metabolism. Without enough glucose in the blood, fat burning becomes very inefficient.

This is not to say the more carbs we eat the more pyruvate we can generate, therefore the more fat is burned. We only need adequate levels of pyruvate to supply the citric acid cycle of the necessary starting material for fat to enter, and then it will eventually proceed to be completely oxidized in the electron transport chain.

Don’t worry about eating too many carbs while on DNP because these carbs cannot be stored and are immediately used for fuel to try to replenish cellular ATP. While keeping the calorie level at maintenance level, it would be most beneficial to eat about 55% calories from carbs, 35% protein and 10% fat (mostly unsaturated). It may be optimal for fat burning to raise the carbs a bit more, but the protein should be high enough so that muscle catabolism is kept at a minimum when DNP creates the huge calorie deficit in the body.

The least effective form of dieting while on a DNP cycle is a fat diet, or ketogenic diet, but the high amounts of fat helps to slow gastric emptying, so you feel more satisfied for a longer period of time. This is one reason why I first recommended the isocaloric diet to beginners who may have trouble controlling their appetite while on DNP.

SIDE EFFECTS:

Heat- you will feel very hot while taking this. It is very similar to jogging a slow pace all day long, so be prepared to sweat a little. In some people a lot of sweat is not too uncommon. Body temperature will rise to about 101 degrees and sustain there. This is not too out of the ordinary. This increase in core body temperature causes a vasodilation effect throughout the body to help cool you off. However, evaporative cooling with the aid of vasodilation will not be effective when the surrounding environment does not allow for proper cooling. For example, being out in the summer sun when it’s 90 degrees and high humidity can cause you to rapidly overheat to dangerous levels. Avoid hot environments at all costs. Stay indoors if you choose to use it in the summer and only go outside briefly when it’s absolutely necessary. Dehydration can cause the body to not regulate temperature properly and rapidly overheat as well. Drink 1-3 gallons of water daily depending on DNP dose.

Water retention- this is very closely associated with heat. When the vasodilation occurs due to the rise in body temperature, blood vessels expand, causing an increase in blood volume and subsequent water retention. Also, an increased blood volume leads to decreased pressure, which would lead the body to try to store more sodium and cause even more water retention. All the water retention will subside within a week after stopping the DNP dosage, but often sooner than that. Popular diuretics are not very effective against DNP induced water retention because these diuretics mainly focus on one aspect of diuresis and that is suppression of the anti diuretic hormone (ADH), but the cause of water retention from DNP is independent of ADH. While diuretics will get rid of some naturally stored water, it isn’t getting rid of enough water that would make a competitor presentable on stage and would put the user in jeopardy of death or serious health complications due to potassium depletion.

Lethargy- This is the biggest problem associated with DNP and is somewhat associated with the insomnia that I will cover later. As you have learned DNP depletes the body of ATP and without ATP you have no energy. It literally feels like you’re jogging a marathon all day long without a break. Of course the extent of the lethargy will depend on the dose, but it is not uncommon for people to be almost bed ridden. Walking to the kitchen to get food will be a chore. Even eating the food can become very laborious. This will subside within 24-36 hours of stopping the doses.

Insomnia- sleeping will be very difficult for some people, not because of the familiar central nervous stimulation experienced with ephedrine and caffeine supplementation, but because it gets so damned hot. Many people including myself find it very difficult to sleep when we’re sweating in our beds. The best way to combat this is to sleep with 2 fans from both sides of the bed and the air conditioner cranked up. Obviously if you have a significant other that you sleep with then it would be wise to sleep in separate beds for parts of the cycle.

Shortness of breath/ rapid breathing- this is common when the dose is at the upper limits. The breathing will seem like you’re jogging even while you’re sitting down and doing nothing. It will seem like you can never catch your breath. Doing anything active will make you even more out of breath and this can become dangerous. When breathing becomes irregular, you should avoid doing any aerobic or strenuous activities. This means no working out (not like you’ll have any energy to do so anyway).

Dehydration- a very serious side effect. If hydration levels are not adequate it can predispose the body to severe overheating and possibly death. Water needs to be replenished on the order of 1-3 gallons per day.

Electrolyte depletion- this is caused by excessive water and salt loss through sweating. Drinking water will replace fluids, but not electrolytes. Best way to replenish salts is to drink v8 juice. This can lead to a host of other problems if not remedied including excessive lethargy, low blood pressure, poor cardiac function, nausea, diarrhea…

Nausea- This is a common side effect that afflicts roughly around 30% of the users. There could be several causes to this: dehydration, electrolyte imbalance, low blood pH, and other unknown (by me) mechanisms.

Diarrhea- possibly due to electrolyte imbalance and undissolved DNP that passes onto the large intestine causing osmotic imbalances. If this becomes too problematic the only thing to do is just to decrease the dosage or stop completely.

Headache- largely due to dehydration. In most people, forcing down a liter of fluids will alleviate the headaches.

Dry/ sore throat- I don’t know the cause of this one, but it is pretty common among users and seems to manifest itself the most during sleep and may contribute to the insomnia.

Allergies/ dermatitis- this is relatively rare. I’ve been in contact with nearly 500 people who have used DNP and I would estimate about 30-40 of them have experienced allergic reactions to DNP. The allergies manifest themselves first as phantom itches (itching without any rashes or redness) around the torso in some people. It will later develop into rashes and or hives around the body and possibly spread to the face, neck, lips, and scalp area in severe cases. Any over the counter or prescription allergy medication (anti histamine) will cure the allergies. Also if you’re allergic to DNP it doesn’t mean you can’t use it in the future. Allergies to DNP seem to have a tolerance factor. It first gets worse, then better with successive cycles. So if you are allergic, stop immediately and start again 7-10 days later and repeat until you are no longer allergic to DNP anymore. Allergies are also dose and length dependent.

Yellow vision- This is even more rare than allergies. I’ve only known about 15 people who have experienced this out of all the people I have come in contact with who have used DNP in the past. It seems to be most apparent when you look at a white surface and yellow spots will appear on the white that you see. I’m not sure what exactly causes this, but it doesn’t seem to harm anything and goes away within 1-2 days of stopping the doses.


PREVENTION/ CONTRAINDICATIONS:

1. Never start your first cycle with an optimal dose. Always play it safe and start low.

2. Never use DNP if you’re going to be in a hot environment for an extended period of time.

3. Never take any diuretics while on DNP. This includes excessive alcohol. While mild diuretics like alcohol will make you much more uncomfortable and hotter, a harsh diuretic like lasix will kill you when taken with DNP.

4. If oral temperature rises to 103 then discontinue use until temp is completely down to normal.

5. Do not attempt to work out very intensely. When it’s hard to find the energy to go to work, don’t push yourself thinking you can get a good workout in. Long cardio sessions can be especially harmful for your health. It would also raise cortisol levels through the roof and will be very catabolic to muscle. Don’t sweat the cardio when on DNP because DNP will make you burn fat. Stay away from the treadmill!

6. If allergies arise take some allergy medication and if that isn’t strong enough then stop the doses for at least 10 days before restarting.

7. Watch your electrolytes. Carry a bottle of v8 juice with you. One 8-ounce serving of v8 has 900mg of potassium compared to 35mg of potassium in 8 ounces of Gatorade. Aim for 3000-5000mg of potassium (not all from v8) per day. Fresh meats and vegetables also have a lot of potassium in them. Sodium is very important too, but is usually not hard to get in the diet. Magnesium can be obtained from supplementation.

8. Hydration. I can’t emphasize this enough. Not only will proper hydration levels make you feel better and prevent overheating, but it will also make the cycle more effective at burning fat.

SUPPLEMENTATION:

Antioxidants—one of the most effective will be the fat soluble vitamin E. I recommend 800 to 1000 iu of vitamin E per day of the cycle to combat the host of free radical damage caused by increased fat oxidation.

Glycerol—this can be important to help maintain muscle hydration and prevent catabolism. It comes in liquid and can be bought over the counter. Take 3-4 tablespoons per day.

Potassium citrate—if blood acidity becomes a problem then potassium citrate can help buffer the acid. About 2-3 grams will be very effective, but 1 gram will do the trick as well.

CONCLUSION

DNP is the most effective fat burner and perhaps the most complicated drug in the bodybuilding community and should not be taken to lightly by average dieters striving to lose a couple of pounds. The side effects are serious and numerous, but if used correctly, none of the side effects are permanent. Despite these numerous side effects people still use it because it works when nothing else will. I hope this article sufficiently educated you on DNP. If you choose to use it please do so with caution and use this and other literature as a guide to help you on your way to a new physique
 
I know its crystal. IDK Why its not working for me anymore. Back in the day i would eat w/e I wanted to and still lose 12lbs and i mean eat anything.
 
ZenX said:
I know its crystal. IDK Why its not working for me anymore. Back in the day i would eat w/e I wanted to and still lose 12lbs and i mean eat anything.


well the only thing i can think that it is ........... It might be the caps are way underdosed .... Lots of sources do that because they dont want people dieing ......... But which is stupid becasue than it dont work ........ So my guess would be to try a new source on the DNP
 
mr_disfunkshun said:
well the only thing i can think that it is ........... It might be the caps are way underdosed .... Lots of sources do that because they dont want people dieing ......... But which is stupid becasue than it dont work ........ So my guess would be to try a new source on the DNP
My caps are 250mg's I am using ****** and I know its good. I doubt its underdosed due to the fact that I feel it pretty fast. Do you think my diet can be the problem?


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Can’t lose weight on DNP


The only explanation is that the gear is not for real,


DNP will burn up muscle, fat, bone, brain anything and at that dose and that time frame, you would have lost at least 10-12 lbs.

I think your gear is ineffective or under dosed to say it politely
 
Dangerous drug, and not worth the risks.. How about just dieting correctly and doing cardio? It works if you stick with it.. You dont need a drug that cooks your insides to lose weight.
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
Dangerous drug, and not worth the risks.. How about just dieting correctly and doing cardio? It works if you stick with it.. You dont need a drug that cooks your insides to lose weight.



please so the research to support that ...................
 
Done my research and its dangerous..maybe you missed this when you were reading up on it..

DNP is primarily used for making dyes, other organic chemicals, and wood preservatives. It is also used to make photographic developer, explosives, and insect control substances
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
Done my research and its dangerous..maybe you missed this when you were reading up on it..

DNP is primarily used for making dyes, other organic chemicals, and wood preservatives. It is also used to make photographic developer, explosives, and insect control substances




No shit .... but it kills me when guys never used the stuff talk shit .... it dont cook your insides ..... it raises your temp and can fry your brain of worse cause brain damage or other injuries if not taken right .............. like any chem if you dont respect it can harm you bro ...... Slin is another thing HGH and many more And as far as my research I have used DNP through out the years and nothing even comes close to it for buring fat and retaining muscle ................ So with that said dont say it cooks your insides like a TV dinner Because It dont
 
ZenX said:
I am getting really pissed off. I have been on DNP for almost 2 weeks at 500mg ED and I have lost only 1-2lbs...

I know I do not have bad stuff due to the fact that my source has very very good rep.

What can be going wrong, why isnt the dnp working; is it possible I have built up a tolerance over the past times I have done cycles?

Did you get the DNP from Satchboogie???
I think you should toss it and buy more. I wouldn't take a higher dosage just to see if that stuff is good

DNP is dangerous

trash it and buy more (from a reliable source)
 
I am using a reliable source. Everyone who has used him said they lose alot of weight. You guys know who *** is?


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ZenX said:
I am using a reliable source. Everyone who has used him said they lose alot of weight. You guys know who Dinitro is?



yes .......... but never heard of him doing 250mg caps ......... plus its not a good thing to post on this board .... you might want to edit his name
 
Bro I dont know the shit always worked great for me but also remember your going to lose a bunch of water weight when you come off so you could have already lost 5-8 lbs of water depending on the individual
 
mr_disfunkshun said:
yes .......... but never heard of him doing 250mg caps ......... plus its not a good thing to post on this board .... you might want to edit his name
He does make 250mg. I went to him awhile back and he suggested the 250mg caps because i get more for my money etc..
 
mr_disfunkshun said:
No shit .... but it kills me when guys never used the stuff talk shit .... it dont cook your insides ..... it raises your temp and can fry your brain of worse cause brain damage or other injuries if not taken right .............. like any chem if you dont respect it can harm you bro ...... Slin is another thing HGH and many more And as far as my research I have used DNP through out the years and nothing even comes close to it for buring fat and retaining muscle ................ So with that said dont say it cooks your insides like a TV dinner Because It dont


Haha! You said it doesn't cook your insides, and two sentences later you said it fries your brain. Is your brain not apart of your insides? Am I missing something here? DNP is GARBAGE! Anyone who would rather "fry their brain" than do diet and cardio is a moron.
 
krishna said:
Haha! You said it doesn't cook your insides, and two sentences you said it fries your brain. Is your brain not apart of your insides? Am I missing something here. DNP is GARBAGE! Anyone who would rather "fry their brain" than do diet and cardio is a moron.

LOL - Knew you'd chime in sooner or later.
Great Advice, (as always bro)
:coffee:
 
krishna said:
Haha! You said it doesn't cook your insides, and two sentences later you said it fries your brain. Is your brain not apart of your insides? Am I missing something here? DNP is GARBAGE! Anyone who would rather "fry their brain" than do diet and cardio is a moron.


so you are saying i am a moron ...... funny that you say such bullshit just because you have no heart .... dont mean others don't ..... and cooked insides is NOT THE SAME MR WIZZARD.... So just dont chim in and say guys are moron's for shit you dont have the balls to do .......
 
mr_disfunkshun said:
and cooked insides is NOT THE SAME MR WIZZARD....
lmfao

This is silly shit. By what criteria are we defining "cooked insides??" WTF? Look, we could go step by step through the pathway of the shit, and nowhere would we find something having been prepared for eating by the application of heat. You don't like the "cooks your insides" comment but "fries your brain" is ok? Meanwhile the rest of your body stays nice and cool??

In clear plain english, the way we speak it, the shit cooks you! We all understand what that meant.


zenx, what sould you do? Throw it away. I wouldn't have bought it in the first place. Damn well wouldn't trust it if I thought it was in anyway not acting right. And I SURE AS FUCK would not just start upping doses to see if it works - wanna be the next newspaper story about a "man who died of a steroid overdose?"

Cut your loss..
 
krishna said:
Haha! You said it doesn't cook your insides, and two sentences later you said it fries your brain. Is your brain not apart of your insides? Am I missing something here? DNP is GARBAGE! Anyone who would rather "fry their brain" than do diet and cardio is a moron.


Thanks Krishna.. I was going to say the same thing.. Mr. Disfunkshun, you should think before you write.. Diet and cardio has worked for the past 20 years, why not do it now? DNP is garbage and proven dangerous.. Everyone always looking for a quick fix, yet they are too lazy to put the time in.. 45mins cardio/ed and a heathly diet, you can shed the lbs off fast.. How bout dropping your daily carb intake? Its all science..
 
mr_disfunkshun said:
so you are saying i am a moron ...... funny that you say such bullshit just because you have no heart .... dont mean others don't ..... and cooked insides is NOT THE SAME MR WIZZARD.... So just dont chim in and say guys are moron's for shit you dont have the balls to do .......

Post some before and after pics than Mr. Wonderful..
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
Thanks Krishna.. I was going to say the same thing.. Mr. Disfunkshun, you should think before you write.. Diet and cardio has worked for the past 20 years, why not do it now? DNP is garbage and proven dangerous.. Everyone always looking for a quick fix, yet they are too lazy to put the time in.. 45mins cardio/ed and a heathly diet, you can shed the lbs off fast.. How bout dropping your daily carb intake? Its all science..


LOOK think before I write.... well tiny i have been BB for more than a decade now with enough cycles behind me that I KNOW FROM EXPERINACE ... I know how to diet and train as do most,,, but what kills me is when guys talk all this shit they give advice On this and that ..... and to look at them were is all this talk on cycles they are small as hell but been juiceing for years and they know how to diet please it is bull shit ...... Think before I write let me just say that i have fogotten more knowledge than you know .....

And some bros have seen my pics and let me just say that tipping 300+ at 13% bulking THATS SIZE BUt hey I dont know shit... after 12 years and trained with guys that went pro and won title after title BUT you know more As for the remark on DNP yes cook your brain is the term used ..............
 
mr_disfunkshun said:
LOOK think before I write.... well tiny ... ...I KNOW FROM EXPERINACE
hmm... (ok, i'm a horrible spleller)
mr_disfunkshun said:
... I know how to diet and train as do most,,,
Er, I don't think most DO know how to train and diet.

mr_disfunkshun said:
Think before I write let me just say that i have fogotten more knowledge than you know .....
Hate this saying...

mr_disfunkshun said:
As for the remark on DNP yes cook your brain is the term used ..............
(lmfao)

Are you in some isolated part of the world where there is only one term for dnp fucking you up?? WTF? This type of talk is synonomous with "cooks yer insides," yieargh!
 
Silent Method said:
hmm... (ok, i'm a horrible spleller)

Er, I don't think most DO know how to train and diet.


Hate this saying...


(lmfao)

Are you in some isolated part of the world where there is only one term for dnp fucking you up?? WTF? This type of talk is synonomous with "cooks yer insides," yieargh!


LOL ok my spelling bad .... but what do you want a star on your head ..... and there are many things that can fuck you besides DNP and my remarks were based That DNP Is a good tool if used right just because YOU dont have the BALLS to do so Dont mean that it does not work OR that ONLY a person that uses DNP DONT KNOW HOW TO DIET AND TRAIN ...... Thats my point ......... there are many AAS and chem out there that IF NOT USED RIGHT CAN FUCK YOU LIFE UP LOOK at SLIN my friend People use ALL THE TIME AND it can turn your lights out ......... But BB use it WHY IT WORKS..... and in the case of DNP same thing holds tRUE ......... So thats my point and statments from people that Have no idea about it and have never used it Should really sit back and say wow I dont want to take the chance with that ...... BUT NO they make comments like they know what the fuck they are talking about
 
mr_disfunkshun said:
LOOK think before I write.... well tiny i have been BB for more than a decade now with enough cycles behind me that I KNOW FROM EXPERINACE ... I know how to diet and train as do most,,, but what kills me is when guys talk all this shit they give advice On this and that ..... and to look at them were is all this talk on cycles they are small as hell but been juiceing for years and they know how to diet please it is bull shit ...... Think before I write let me just say that i have fogotten more knowledge than you know .....

And some bros have seen my pics and let me just say that tipping 300+ at 13% bulking THATS SIZE BUt hey I dont know shit... after 12 years and trained with guys that went pro and won title after title BUT you know more As for the remark on DNP yes cook your brain is the term used ..............

Ive been doing this stuff for 18+ years and have tons of cycles behind me.. Ive been doing competition diets for a few friends that have been competiting for years. I have 2 that are going for their pro cards in less than 1 month. But I dont know shit, eh? Funny because both won their class' and their overalls.. My girl competes in less than 2 weeks and Im doing her diet and training as well, Ill let you know how good she does too. (Natl Qualifier)

Ive had friends and even my girl ask me about DNP and i told them to stay away from it. Gave them the breakdown on the chemical, and it actually scared my girl from using it. Just because your a dumbass and use something dangerous, dont recommend it to someone else. I could give two shits if you have years of experience with it, your advice could cost someone their life. Proven dangerous..When the FDA approves it, get back to me and Ill jump on the bandwagon..

Im tiny eh? Funny, because I received tons of k on how I look and am not small by any means. Your 300lbs, big deal... You probably cant even wipe your own ass.. Post your pics big boy! Ill post a front shot, and blow your ass away..
 
mr_disfunkshun said:
LOL ok my spelling bad .... but what do you want a star on your head
I was pointing out the irony and not so much the spelling.

mr_disfunkshun said:
..... and there are many things that can fuck you besides DNP and my remarks were based That DNP Is a good tool if used right just because YOU dont have the BALLS to do so Dont mean that it does not work...
I understand this in principle, and your opinion is fine. But the "cooks your insides" vs. "fries your brain" thing was funny - and silly. The shit turns up the HEAT! This is true, and this is what he meant.


I'd possibly consider DNP if it were highly, highly regulated in manufacture, prepared specifically for our use by an agency with the public looking over it's shoulder. This will never happen again, though. It's a product that can kill, and no matter what someone is going to off themself with it.
 
BTW, zenex, seriously, throw the shit out. Don't fuck around with it if it's not acting as expected - do not start ramping up the dose.
 
DNP is dangerous...so are steroids...so is clenbuterol....so is T3...as well as a host of other DRUGS. So let's get back on topic. The man you got your dnp from has good stuff, I use it occassionally. I honestly can't think of why you haven't dropped much weight with the exception of possibly a thyroid issue, or the fact that your diet may be terrible. Just because you could eat anything and lose weight IN THE PAST doesn't mean you still can do that. I'd try keepin a better diet and see how things go. And do remember, as someone else pointed out, that you will lose 5-8lbs of weight post cycle, so be sure to account for that.
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
Ive been doing this stuff for 18+ years and have tons of cycles behind me.. Ive been doing competition diets for a few friends that have been competiting for years. I have 2 that are going for their pro cards in less than 1 month. But I dont know shit, eh? Funny because both won their class' and their overalls.. My girl competes in less than 2 weeks and Im doing her diet and training as well, Ill let you know how good she does too. (Natl Qualifier)

Ive had friends and even my girl ask me about DNP and i told them to stay away from it. Gave them the breakdown on the chemical, and it actually scared my girl from using it. Just because your a dumbass and use something dangerous, dont recommend it to someone else. I could give two shits if you have years of experience with it, your advice could cost someone their life. Proven dangerous..When the FDA approves it, get back to me and Ill jump on the bandwagon..

Im tiny eh? Funny, because I received tons of k on how I look and am not small by any means. Your 300lbs, big deal... You probably cant even wipe your own ass.. Post your pics big boy! Ill post a front shot, and blow your ass away..



LMAO Sure wow karma that says it all LMAO ............ well if you even had a clue about Dnp you would know that studies over the years have proved that DNP didnt cause the problems it once was thought............. But THE FDA will never apporve It and just to add ..... My advice will safe some one WHY I HAVE RUN IT ..... ALOT and I know what to look for I know at what body temp is the dosage.......... not just by weight So........ I would say when A guy is going to use DNP what advise CAN YOU GIVE HIM HUMMMMMM even when he is going to any way tell him all about the reseach you found ............... So if anything MY ADVICE WILL HELP WERE YOURS DOES Not ................ But i will admit that i would not someone that is new the game to try DNP thats just nuts ..... So to a point yes you can chime in and give the low down on DNP AND THAT'S it ........ you never ran it And as far as My pic I have nothing to prove a few good bros have seem my pic and I am not full of my self its just funny when guys say they have 18 plus years ..... they dont have the body to show it or they say how many cycles they have under there belt ............... but yet 2+2 dont add up but really man ...... I am not saying you dont know nothing just that when i see post after post about guys giving advice that is so far off its not even funny ................ but I stop by here from time to time ... trying to offer up some knowledge but it would seem you have that coverd .......

But in short dont say my advice will cost someone there life when I take this sport and AAS very serious ........... I would never tell someone somthing i didnt know i was 100% on and most has come from REAL LIFE cycles PCt and knowledge .... So before you get all high and mighty becasue you HAVE the all mighty Karma .............. remeber this you can read and research all you want and in theory it all sounds good ............ But Until you walk the path and know 100% than you can ............ But i am done no sense In going back and forth .....................
 
First of all - fck you guys for jacking his thread...

Secondly, I used ***** 250mg DNP, went 1,1,1,2,2,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3 AND DIDN'T LOSE A GOD DAMN POUND! I dunno whats up... I was hot as hell, sweated through shirts in air conditiong, took cold showers every 30minutes... just didnt lose any weight... maybe its **** man... sht...


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used2juice said:
DNP is dangerous...so are steroids...so is clenbuterol....so is T3...as well as a host of other DRUGS.

Nobody dies of a steroid overdose. Yes, all these drugs have an amount of risk associated with use, but DNP really takes a couple of us (from kids, to you men in their prime, to older gym rats) every so often.
 
Right now my friend is using dnp from the same guy. I have used him for over a year now. His dnp is the best and it's not powder. Right now they are even dosed at 250mgs per cap. Dnp can bloat you. You might have lost more but you are bloated. I don't really know. My friend is losing. I would have to say it is bloat and you lost more than 2lbs. It's really hot everywhere right now, please be careful and don't up the dose thinking that is what's wrong. And drink plenty of water and eat lot's of water melon. How is your potasium intake? Dnp is not something to take lightly, let alone run in the summer. My friend is a pro and sits home all day with the air on 68 while running it and only for 10-12 days tops. Be careful and again, don't up the dose. I would actually come off and let the bloat clear. Good luck and stay safe!
 
C3bodybuilding said:
Right now my friend is using dnp from the same guy. I have used him for over a year now. His dnp is the best and it's not powder. Right now they are even dosed at 250mgs per cap. Dnp can bloat you. You might have lost more but you are bloated. I don't really know. My friend is losing. I would have to say it is bloat and you lost more than 2lbs. It's really hot everywhere right now, please be careful and don't up the dose thinking that is what's wrong. And drink plenty of water and eat lot's of water melon. How is your potasium intake? Dnp is not something to take lightly, let alone run in the summer. My friend is a pro and sits home all day with the air on 68 while running it and only for 10-12 days tops. Be careful and again, don't up the dose. I would actually come off and let the bloat clear. Good luck and stay safe!
Great post.
 
mr_disfunkshun said:
so you are saying i am a moron ...... funny that you say such bullshit just because you have no heart .... dont mean others don't ..... and cooked insides is NOT THE SAME MR WIZZARD.... So just dont chim in and say guys are moron's for shit you dont have the balls to do .......

I'm just using tough love brutha. You're right! I don't have the balls to pointlessly destroy my health to accomplish something I can do with a simple diet; either that or I'm just not that dumb. I give you props for doing your research and doing it right (although in my opinion there really isn't a right way to take poison). You're doing a lot better than most. I guess my way of encouraging people to avoid things like dnp is to criticize. If I didn't care I wouldn't say anything at all.
 
steelmass said:
First of all - fck you guys for jacking his thread...

Secondly, I used **** 250mg DNP, went 1,1,1,2,2,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3 AND DIDN'T LOSE A GOD DAMN POUND! I dunno whats up... I was hot as hell, sweated through shirts in air conditiong, took cold showers every 30minutes... just didnt lose any weight... maybe its ***** man... sht...


I think it might be. I used to your *****, his stuff was industrial not crystal like Dinitro and let me tell you i lost 7-10lbs in week. Im on **** and I lose like 3-4lbs tops. Not even. This cycle i lost like 1 or 2lbs... IDK what to tihnk anymore. I think im gunna try a new source.. Maybe we can try it out together and compare it to ***** so people know if ** is bad.


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I think it might be. I used to your ****, his stuff was industrial not crystal like **** and let me tell you i lost 7-10lbs in week. Im on *** and I lose like 3-4lbs tops. Not even. This cycle i lost like 1 or 2lbs... IDK what to tihnk anymore. I think im gunna try a new source.. Maybe we can try it out together and compare it to *** so people know if ** is bad.
**** is excellent shit I lost 15 lbs on that in about 20 days.

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mr_disfunkshun said:
LMAO Sure wow karma that says it all LMAO ............ well if you even had a clue about Dnp you would know that studies over the years have proved that DNP didnt cause the problems it once was thought............. But THE FDA will never apporve It and just to add ..... My advice will safe some one WHY I HAVE RUN IT ..... ALOT and I know what to look for I know at what body temp is the dosage.......... not just by weight So........ I would say when A guy is going to use DNP what advise CAN YOU GIVE HIM HUMMMMMM even when he is going to any way tell him all about the reseach you found ............... So if anything MY ADVICE WILL HELP WERE YOURS DOES Not ................ But i will admit that i would not someone that is new the game to try DNP thats just nuts ..... So to a point yes you can chime in and give the low down on DNP AND THAT'S it ........ you never ran it And as far as My pic I have nothing to prove a few good bros have seem my pic and I am not full of my self its just funny when guys say they have 18 plus years ..... they dont have the body to show it or they say how many cycles they have under there belt ............... but yet 2+2 dont add up but really man ...... I am not saying you dont know nothing just that when i see post after post about guys giving advice that is so far off its not even funny ................ but I stop by here from time to time ... trying to offer up some knowledge but it would seem you have that coverd .......

But in short dont say my advice will cost someone there life when I take this sport and AAS very serious ........... I would never tell someone somthing i didnt know i was 100% on and most has come from REAL LIFE cycles PCt and knowledge .... So before you get all high and mighty becasue you HAVE the all mighty Karma .............. remeber this you can read and research all you want and in theory it all sounds good ............ But Until you walk the path and know 100% than you can ............ But i am done no sense In going back and forth .....................


My point in all this was DNP is dangerous, plain and simple.. Does DNP work? From the studies I seen, sure it does, but there are many health concerns and risks involved, and in my opinion not worth it. I dont need to try a drug to know the consequences.. Thats like saying since I have never used heroin or cocaine, I should try it first before I give my opinion on it. You can preach all you want how DNP helps you lose weight, but a good diet and cardio is a more healthier approach.

Some members on here already said they didnt lose any weight with dinitros dnp, and if they were on a strict diet and did cardio, they would have lost the weight already..

I know someone who was on this well known 'Pros' diet, it was a cocktail of lasix, dnp, slin and something else that I cant remember, and the dude is on dialysis for the rest of his life.. Something to think about!

And I dont see the need in flaming me and bashing my pic, calling me tiny, etc.. Funny that you are the only one saying that.. I get compliments all the time in my area when I go out, hit the beach or the mall.. Its only the jealous ones that talk shit and have nothing to back it up..
 
ItalianMuscle27 said:
My point in all this was DNP is dangerous, plain and simple.. Does DNP work? From the studies I seen, sure it does, but there are many health concerns and risks involved, and in my opinion not worth it. I dont need to try a drug to know the consequences.. Thats like saying since I have never used heroin or cocaine, I should try it first before I give my opinion on it. You can preach all you want how DNP helps you lose weight, but a good diet and cardio is a more healthier approach.

Some members on here already said they didnt lose any weight with dinitros dnp, and if they were on a strict diet and did cardio, they would have lost the weight already..

I know someone who was on this well known 'Pros' diet, it was a cocktail of lasix, dnp, slin and something else that I cant remember, and the dude is on dialysis for the rest of his life.. Something to think about!

And I dont see the need in flaming me and bashing my pic, calling me tiny, etc.. Funny that you are the only one saying that.. I get compliments all the time in my area when I go out, hit the beach or the mall.. Its only the jealous ones that talk shit and have nothing to back it up..

lol ok ............... you are bigger than me LOL and I am not flaming you made your point and cased closed you do what you do and I will do what i do ...... and my friend by the way I can back it up but no need too ..........
 
mr_disfunkshun said:
lol ok ............... you are bigger than me LOL and I am not flaming you made your point and cased closed you do what you do and I will do what i do ...... and my friend by the way I can back it up but no need too ..........

Never said i was bigger than you, but I am better looking! :)
 
i liked DNP at one point of my life.....



till I got an allergic reaction to it and developed ooozing sores up and down my inner thigh..
Now i'm forced to never to do it again.... unless I want some sores that last me 2 weeks at a time...
no thanks i'll stick to ECA and fibrates :)
 
just gonna throw this out there for all you broand gals who want to lose weight fast and don't want the DNP route; there is another decent drug that worked very good for me. Tiratricol.

It was banned by the FDA but only because some morons were overdosing and absuing it because it is very effective

It is still very popular in Europe and Asia as a weight loss supp.
 
Back when I was a punk kid, I lost nearly 10 lbs in one night all hyped up on meth. I'd probably do meth again before I tried dnp, but I'd never do either. They are both poison.
 
so, without giving source names, can anyone tell me if it would be "safe" to use DNP that i've obtained from a chemical supplier - the guys that deliver shit to major labs and universities ? for example - (not a supplier) Fukme Hardar?
 
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Enough of this guy "I'm not asking for a source" and bumping year-old threads. Good bye.
 
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