I have to say that SOME of the men (funny it is always the same ones) getting all defensive and pissy on this thread is not only understandable, but predictable. I am very surprized though at some of the women's responses to SOME of the other women's opinions. It saddens me to see women at odds with one another over something so silly. Why so defensive? If everyone had the same viewpoints then life would be pretty boring. Opposing points of view are WONDERFUL, but the personal attacks the board can do without.
I haven't said anything that degrades a woman who chooses to put out her money or her choochie. It is HERS to put out. Who am I to judge? Hell, I fucked my husband within 5 hours of having met him in the flesh. And? So?
I EXPECT a man to pay - period. How this is offensive to ANY other man or woman is beyond me. If the man who is PURSUING ME has an issue with this then we dont go out and I dont shed a tear. I just shift the focus of my attention to a man whose thinking is more in alignment with my own.
And for the women who think that by PAYING either what they view as *their share* or even ALL they have alleviated the man's sense of entitlement to play - they are mistaken.
All men WANT some touch eventually otherwise they wouldnt be going out with the lady. To deny this is ridiculous and counterproductive as women want touch too.
Everyone need to relax and take deep breaths.
You want to pay as the woman - you go! WE wont be going on any dates, so why should it matter to me?