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Are there any other alternatives that won't make one look like a dude 
Frankieperfect
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Try some Winstrol
Frankieperfect said:
Not so hot advice.
CC - my stick at the top of the Women's Board covers this. Also, in the thread I put together with links to good posts, there is one called "Inj for Women" by realgains, it has good advice.
There are several things a woman can take that won't make her look manly. It isn't necessarily the substance that will do it, it is the DOSE. When dealing with AAS, the goal is to stick with the LOWEST possible dose. More is SO NOT beter when dealing with women.
Also, if you go with an injectable, stick with shorter cycles, less build up, less chance of sides. With an Inj, I wouldn't go over 8 weeks.....prob stick with 6 weeks. Then take 6-8 weeks off (totally clean), then cycle again if you wish.
Watch out with stronger substances too. Even if you don't develop masculinization, it is very possible to get other sides - acne, facial hair, oily skin, raspy voice. With Inj, the sides can come on hard and FAST. This is why you MUST keep a CLOSE eye on everything, and keep dose low.
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The Shadow
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Frankieperfect said:
Shitty advice
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The Shadow
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I am curious about Turinbol on low does for women
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*MissFit*
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I know about sticky in womens forum i just wanted to see opinions here... DG
And Win I know no good..
Shadow is still the man for advice
And Win I know no good..
Shadow is still the man for advice
The Shadow said:
Mythicalbeing
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My gf has been running 50mg week of EQ with excellent results. While you have more curves CUTIE...She's got more muscle....she finished 10 weeks....and no sides...also leaned her up a bit as muscle needs more energy. She went from 132 to 141...with 1% loss in BF...she was lean to start with. Most obvious was the muscle gain in her legs....Yummy. Nothing like a female leg dipped in honey to make a man hungry...did I say that out loud?
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The Shadow
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Mythicalbeing said:
50 mg per week - Im very very suprised that there were no sides.....enlargement especially
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*MissFit*
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is Brick girl ur gf?
Mythicalbeing said:
CanadianCutie said:I know about sticky in womens forum i just wanted to see opinions here... DG
Shadow is still the man for advice
Sorry I gave my advice then. I guess I don't know shit.
CanadianCutie said:
No way, BG is married.
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*MissFit*
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Hun i know you know your stuff.. i wanted to get other peoples advice as well
Daisy_Girl said:
Patrick Steele
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For women the 2 best drugs of choice are var and primo. If you want something simular to var, then primo is a good choice. I've also been noticing the past 2 years that EQ in low doses has started becoming quite popular with women especially fitness girls. They seem to love it. Nice lean gains and practically no sides.
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I have heard both var and primo..
Primo is good, problem is getting real stuff (yes, I know it is posible, but not everyone takes the time to find GOOD sources).
Test Prop also isn't bad. Keep the dose low and constant. Watch for sides carefully. It clears the body quickly.
Nandrolone Phenlypropinate also can be a good choice. Again, keep dose low and constant. It also clears the body fast.
Both Test Prop and NPP can bring on oily skin, acne and raspy voice pretty easily. The acne can persist even years after you get off the substance. Voice change is often permanent if you don't catch it quickly and stop/lower the dose.
Test Prop also isn't bad. Keep the dose low and constant. Watch for sides carefully. It clears the body quickly.
Nandrolone Phenlypropinate also can be a good choice. Again, keep dose low and constant. It also clears the body fast.
Both Test Prop and NPP can bring on oily skin, acne and raspy voice pretty easily. The acne can persist even years after you get off the substance. Voice change is often permanent if you don't catch it quickly and stop/lower the dose.
Wootoom said:
Shouldn't do what?
The discussion is not about Var, it is about other substances. We ALL know Var is the best choice, it is a safer choice, etc etc etc.
We are trying to discuss OTHER otions too.
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The Shadow
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Daisy_Girl said:
yep......
Small doses of Turinabol might be of some benefir as well......its much more anabolic than androgenic....very little/if any water retention
think milder dbol with less sides as well
Frankieperfect
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lol Ill just stick to mens health , but seriously my GF did a cycle of Winnie ,50 mg EOD for 6weeks and looked more sexy than ever. No huge gains , and didnt even look "manly". Very defined cuts and her abs were tight as hell.The Shadow said:
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The Shadow
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If she did 50 mg EOD, and didnt have huge gains OR sides then I can almost assure you it wasnt Winny....or if it was, It was WAY under-dosed
Frankieperfect said:
Reason Shadow said that was shitty advice is because your GF is NOT the norm when it comes to Winny. Winny is NOT reliable in females. It usually brings on more trouble and sides than results. Some women have good luck with it - but they are few and VERY far between.
Winny is NOT recommended for the average female user - esp as a first time drug or for a novice. Myself, I would *never* trust Winny.
Glad your GF had good luck with it - what else has she done?
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The Shadow
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Daisy - the above was hitting 175mg of winny per week.....
do you think she would have had PRONOUNCED gains if it were indeed real....at least at that dosage?
do you think she would have had PRONOUNCED gains if it were indeed real....at least at that dosage?
The Shadow said:
Holy shit, didn't even catch that. Good catch. Yikes. That is a SILLY HIGH dose. No F'ing way that was real. And if it is, she has an AMAZING tolerance for gear.
I am assuming it was Inj? What brand?
LOL, now that you pointed that out Shadow, I am obsessing about the dose.
Most women inject 7-10mg daily - so 70mg a week AT MOST. And they STILL get horrible sides. This girl was doing 175mg a week and got NO sides?
Most women inject 7-10mg daily - so 70mg a week AT MOST. And they STILL get horrible sides. This girl was doing 175mg a week and got NO sides?
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The Shadow
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Hence my point......I bet it was assumed it would be a 50 mg tab and it was a 10
The Shadow said:
agreed
Dieselgoku23
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I dont know why you guys think Winny is a weak roid!!!, that stuff is serious shit!!! I would would say up there with Test and all....., I dont think any kinda of Test is a good Idea for women, I say stick with Var and Primo if you cant get primo then EQ is good, is call "Poor Mans primo" in this case "Poor womens Primo" lol just my .02
Like Div said, nobody said Winny was weak. In fact, qite the opposite. Haven't Shadow and I been saying to AVOID it since it is often troublesome for women?!?!?!
And Test CAN be totally safe for women. For one, it is a naturally occuring substance in humans. If you are smart about the dose and do your research, a woman can do it with few serious sides.
Obviously, that is not recommended for novices. ONLY for women who have effectively run other substances and who are very experienced in training and dieting (i.e, years of training, not months).
And Test CAN be totally safe for women. For one, it is a naturally occuring substance in humans. If you are smart about the dose and do your research, a woman can do it with few serious sides.
Obviously, that is not recommended for novices. ONLY for women who have effectively run other substances and who are very experienced in training and dieting (i.e, years of training, not months).
Dieselgoku23
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Even though Test is natural occurring on women still doesnt mean is good choice, usually with test thats where you start to see sides on women that look like guys, deep voice, facial hair, enlarge clit etc....., even on low dosage women can develop those sides and most of time are not reversable like few pimples etc....
Dieselgoku23 said:
Test is a horrid choice for females.
The adam's apple, facial hair, swollen clit are irreversible sides.....
If you stick with low doses of Winny, Anavar she'll be fine. She can higher with Primo as it's the weakest of the three in terms of Androgenic sides.
DIV
Dieselgoku23
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Thank you Division, Test on women is not a good choice at all!!. Unless she wants to look like me
DIVISION said:
I've done Test with NONE of those sides.
Why?
Research and smart dosing.
Have you seen my pics? Nothing manly there.
Daisy_Girl said:I've done Test with NONE of those sides.
Why?
Research and smart dosing.
Have you seen my pics? Nothing manly there.
I'm not saying you aren't attractive, DaisyPet......
You've got a bangin' booty and I'd eat my Mongolian beef platter off your ass.....mos definitely.
I just can't advocate Test use in females.......yet anyway.
I haven't looked in to it because I haven't seen any research done with women using Test, I tend to err on the side of caution when recommending women using AAS anyway. Possible virilizing sides aren't worth it, IMO.
DIV
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roidpuple
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interesting poste.... all new to me...
Frankieperfect
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Damn Daisy.... U r FINE!!
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The Shadow
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DIVISION said:
...then you should know Winny's reputation as a snake bite drug for women
Frankieperfect
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Well noted , but one should remeber that EVERY ones body is differentThe Shadow said:
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The Shadow
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DIVISION said:You're just trying to argue with me now, Shadow.....
Snakebite remedies have nothing to do with the discussion.
DIV
Imnot arguing...you must be baked tonite with some of the wdvice yo have given out.
Like drinking winny to avoid taking an oral
LOL
DIVISION said:
I do agree with this overall. I see too many women coming on here and asking about substances because their "boyfriend" told then to take it - that it is a magic fat burner and will make them "toned". WHATEVER
I do not agree with the male opinion (and some females) that all AAS is wrong for females, and that all AAS will make a female look like a male. BS.
AAS DOES have it's place in women, but ONLY when diet and training are SPOT on - and have been for years. Even then, intensive research should be done by the female wanting to take it. And that rarely happens.
black sheep
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Daisy_Girl said:
I thought it was great Advise.
My advise personally would be - Steroids, ANY steroids are for MEN. I know that var was developed to be used in women, and that is the ONLY AAS I would "approve" (For lack of a better term) for use in women.
Is the risk of sides (Especially when you consider what the sides can be) worth the gains you could expect at that low dosage? If you are not competing I would stay away of anything besides anavar, and I would not recommend that unless you have absolutly reached the best physique possible with out AAS and you are not happy.
That is my .02, flame away!
Bigdogmikey
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depends on goals, primo is pretty good, HGH 1-2ius is really good.
Bigdogmikey
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Sassy69 said:
Gh over 4 ius will cause muscle growth not major but is a great fat burner, by gains what do you mean size?? strength??? lower bodyfat ???? or lower bodyfat and gain muscle??? To give proper advice people need to know:
1. Stats
2. Cycle experience
3. Your Specific goal
People cant read minds
Bigdogmikey
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When my aunt was competing she was doing 40-50mg of var, she stayed on for 9 monthes. Doseage goes by weight and $$$
Bigdogmikey
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and previous cycle experience
Bigdogmikey
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Eq is a good drug for women too around 50-100mg a week,I would throw in 3000-6000mcg of b12 to help increase RBC's for alil size. Turinabol is not a bad choice either. Clen, t3, t4 hgh are good cutting agents.
Daisy_Girl said:
Good Post, DaisyPet....
You see, I'm not an extremist when it comes to AAS and women......but I think moderation and caution is best exercised when you are fucking with a woman's body.....the delicate balance has to remain.
You understand what I mean.
DIV
Blut Wump said:
No, because women have naturally occuring Test in their body already, and they aren't taking in enough to masculinize them, so no PCT is needed. Additionally, once their BF% goes back up to where it's supposed to be they will regain their period and everthing will be back to normal. Excess test will cause a woman's sex drive to max out, but this is only temporary while they are on.
DIV
2lunatics_ina_rubber_room
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djufo said:The best side for girls is the clit enlargement...lol they get sensible as hell!
Sensible as hell ? Does that mean they start thinking more pragmatically ? Or do you mean sensitive ? LOL
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*MissFit*
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Agreed
djufo said:The best side for girls is the clit enlargement...lol they get sensible as hell!
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*MissFit*
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What is sensible?
DIVISION said:I missed that the first time around.........
Nugga, pleaseeeeeeee......
I'd believe in a sensitive clit over a sensible woman anyday.....
DIV
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*MissFit*
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Ya i don't think i am aware of this word.. or able to be this
DIVISION said:For a woman?
Using her head when making decisions instead of her heart.....
Brains over Emotions.......basically.
DIV
CanadianCutie said:Ya i don't think i am aware of this word.. or able to be this
Of course you can.....there have been many Canadian women who have used cold icy sensibility to realize their dreams: (ex: Trish Stratus, Amy Lynn, Stacey Lynn, Victoria Pratt) and those are just the fitness models.
DIV
Breeze
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CanadianCutie said:Are there any other alternatives that won't make one look like a dude
My friend put his girlfriend on 10mg ed of winny and she started putting on what she considered to be too much weight, although I thought she looked great. I had some of the old pentagon shaped BD 5 mg var left over, so she switched from winny to 10 mg of var and was much happier.
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UA_Iron
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What are your goals CC?
(took till page 4 for someone to ask this
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Is anavar not strong enough and you want more pronounced effects?
(took till page 4 for someone to ask this
)Is anavar not strong enough and you want more pronounced effects?
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*MissFit*
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I liked anavar quite a bit.. just looking at alternatives just in case it is not the best option.. pretty sure it is
I have alot of trouble keeping on weight.. due to Thyroid etc.. so just trying to ensure i do my research
I have alot of trouble keeping on weight.. due to Thyroid etc.. so just trying to ensure i do my research
UA_Iron said:What are your goals CC?
(took till page 4 for someone to ask this
Is anavar not strong enough and you want more pronounced effects?
Luckily, I already knew her goals, having followed her posts for months
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*MissFit*
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Daisy_Girl said:Luckily, I already knew her goals, having followed her posts for months
Mythicalbeing
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No CC there were no sides at 50mg week. Brickgirl is not my GH, but I can only wish...my gf is striving for that hard look. She's looking into primo....but thinks she's going to go var this next time to increase strength and increase muscle growth a bit.
Either way keep us posted on how you do and what you run.
Either way keep us posted on how you do and what you run.
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UA_Iron
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Daisy_Girl said:Luckily, I already knew her goals, having followed her posts for months
everyone else in the thread did not however. I still hold your advice as the best in this thread.
Mythicalbeing
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Turinabol.....nice alternative. This was a good read (from both of us...me and gf)
UA_Iron said:
True dat.
Mythicalbeing said:
Problem is, ther eis not much anecdotal experiences on it. Getting dosing, timing, etc down is hard ..... since there isn't much out there.
And while I am daring and like to take some risks, I am NOT into being a guinea pig for AAS use.
I will say, this thread has made me miss using .... esp Var ... GAWD, I love that stuff. I've swore off it's use..... for now ......
CC read the thread by realgains on the womans board. Then futher research which compound you might want to try. If it is an injectable think long and hard. Best bet is something fast acting so you can bail with any sides. Also consider some of the sides long and hard as they are perminate. I spent well over 6 months reaserching other posibble compounds but have stuck to var at least for now.
Bigdogmikey
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superqt4u2nv said:
how about a Primo/Oral turnibol stack?
TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT
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DIVISION said:Women are so touchy about their bodies, it's quite amazing how they notice these minute details. It doesn't take much for a woman to feel uncomfortable about her body, self conscious.
DIV
Women can get some extra protein from their pearl necklaces i give em
Bigdogmikey
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Who here likes muscular women?
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mr.cuts
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Daisy_Girl said:
I hope u are joking about using test prop??? Why the hell would a woman want to use AAS in the first place??? Personally, i only want my women doing cardio, as well as a strict diet. I don't like muscularity on women at all, this is just my opinion though.
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mr.cuts
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Bigdogmikey said:
not me! I like the playboy playmate look, soft round curves.
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roidpuple
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i god damn love em... not the pre contest look.. though
bible51isonya
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CC as asked before what are your goals. I caution you to be careful using anything other than var. You have a great feminine look.I would hate to see you mess with it. If you want the more ripped look go with var.
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Nah im not going to.. trust me i still want to look like a woman.. 
I just wanted opinions
trust me i still want to look like a woman.. I just wanted opinions
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