Winter Bulking Cycle NEED ADVICE

[spartan64]

Need Advice on this Winter Bulking Cycle
Backround:
age-23
height-5′10
weight-190
bf% 12-15%
I have taken D-bol alone as a first cyle 1 nd half year ago, this will be my 2nd cycle. I made incredibly gains on the dbol, goin from 185 to 215 and stayed solid around 205 after cycle. I started to slack shortly after and went to around 220 mostly fat. Ive spent the last 6 months(primarily summer) cutting weight to prep for this cycle, im now slightly stronger than i was during dbol cycle after training with only protein as supplement. I also do not smoke or drink and have started using milk thistle 2 weeks ago. Here is the cycle:
1-4 Dbol 50mg/day
1-6 Test Eth 500mg/week
1-6 Deca 500mg/week
PCT-Nolvadex 20mg tabs—Not sure how many I should take this time around, but will start 3 weeks after last injection
With the amount of test nd deca im using i only have enough gear for a 6 week cycle at 500mg. Should I lower the doses to 400mlg/week so cycle lasts longer, 8 weeks??
Also Ive heard test should usually be run 2 weeks longer than deca, if i run the test longer it would be a ratio of 400test to 500test, but ive also heard test doses shoud be higher than deca to prevent sides (ex deca dick). What would you guys recommend? buy more test??
Need advise ASAP start cycle OCT 1st
Thanks

 

[C0LUMB0]

6 week cycle is a waste .
Dont start untill you have a proper PCT in-hand...if you are gonna run deca , then forget about nolvadex - read the PCT stickies.Drop the dbol to 30mg and the deca to 300mg, wait untill you have enought test to run the cycle for 12 weeks .
1-4 dbol 30mg
1-10 deca 300mg
1-12 test 500mg

Dont do ANYTHING untill you have got everything you need on-hand for PCT and possible sides.
Use the search button to find similar cycles then post up your proposed new cycle including AI's ,hCG and PCT .

How many years have you been training ?

What does your diet look like ?

 

[babushka]

I agree with Columbo 6 weeks is too short with long esters like deca,test e.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Read the PCT for 2010 STicky.

500 mgs of Deca ia a lot.

I disagree that 6 weeks is too short. I think it's very resonable. Take a break. See how you recover. Do another cycle in a couple of months.

 

[nydj66]

I would say that a 6-week cycle is not a waste but a 6-week cycle with deca is. Deca is just too long acting and it won't be at full effect until your cycle is half over or more.

If you haven't gotten the gear already, get test prop and NPP instead. They are ideal for a 6-week cycle (which will be much easier to recover from that a 10-12 weeker with deca.

I'm also curious about your math. 6 weeks of test and deca (assuming they're at 250mg/ml) is 12ml. Do you have amps or do you have two 10ml vials and really only enough for 5 weeks? Or maybe you're gear is 300mg/ml and you're planning on injecting 0.8ml twice weekly.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I would say that a 6-week cycle is not a waste but a 6-week cycle with deca is. Deca is just too long acting and it won't be at full effect until your cycle is half over or more.

If you haven't gotten the gear already, get test prop and NPP instead. They are ideal for a 6-week cycle (which will be much easier to recover from that a 10-12 weeker with deca.

I'm also curious about your math. 6 weeks of test and deca (assuming they're at 250mg/ml) is 12ml. Do you have amps or do you have two 10ml vials and really only enough for 5 weeks? Or maybe you're gear is 300mg/ml and you're planning on injecting 0.8ml twice weekly.

The length of the ester has nothing to do with the amount of time it takes to be effective.

Deca stays active for 2 weeks -- only a few days longer than testosterone. The metabolites will linger for months but they are anabolically inert.

 

[nydj66]

The length of the ester has nothing to do with the amount of time it takes to be effective.

Deca stays active for 2 weeks -- only a few days longer than testosterone. The metabolites will linger for months but they are anabolically inert.

I ran two 6-week enanthate/deca cycles and saw good strength gain but not a lot of mass. The first time I stretched out a deca cycle to 10 weeks I got much better results.

That's just my personal experience.

 

[lartinos]

I have taken deca before and not noticed gains until week 5.

 

[slaughter15]

definetely buy more test, you need a cycle much longer than 6 weeks since the long esters dont fully kick in until week 4 or 5. Do at least a 10 week cyc minimum or if you really want a 6 weeker you could use test propinate(fast acting test) with nandrolone phenylpropinate(fast acting deca)

 

[axe3]

I'd drop the deca since it your first real cycle. You want to know how your body reacts to test before you start doing multiple injectibles. So like ozzy said do around a 10 week rip of test at 500 mg/wk.