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??winstrol Only Cycle??

PANTS

PANTS

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I've tried a search and get really mixed info.
So here I am asking the same ol question looking for THE definitive answer.
I'm 26, 8-10% B.F, been lifting naturally for 7 years.
Do you all think its worth me doing an oral Winny only cycle?
Would prefer Anavar but we can't get hold of that in the U.K.
Also, is Clomid or any other anti-e needed at the end?
Any advice/ experiences appreciated.
 
Here you go:


winny 50mg/ed weeks 1-8
clomid 100mg/day week 9
clomid 50mg/day weeks 10-11

Make sure to drink a lot of water and take your liver supps. And no you wont need any anti-e's.
 
Winny Versus Eq

I have yet to try winny only cycle and an eq only cycle to compare the gains from winny & eq. Though one is a Class I and the other a Class II, both are known for hard defined gains. And of course, at high doses, its best to accompany eq w arimidex. I have always taken both so I can't tell the diff. Anyone here can shed some light on this?

By the way, would you think eq at 600mg/wk is an optimal dose?
 
OK: lets say I can get hold of some Anavar: would this be better than the Winny?
Don't flame; but I'm after moderate (not huge) gains in size.
 
PANTS said:
OK: lets say I can get hold of some Anavar: would this be better than the Winny?
Don't flame; but I'm after moderate (not huge) gains in size.
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If your talking about ** anavar, which is what we can only get in the UK that is affordable. Then I say stick with the winstrol, im using his anavar now and getting shit results, hardly any. His winstrol however was excellent and tested out quite well from the triedia members.
 
What do you mean by shit results? What dosages you using?
What results can I expect from a Winny only cycle @50 mg/day?
 
Re: Winny Versus Eq

yiyangzhi said:
.And of course, at high doses, its best to accompany eq w arimidex.
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You won't need arimidex with EQ, it doesn't convert to estrogen.
 
Re: Re: Winny Versus Eq

Eq does aromatise, the degree of which is dose dependent. What I discover was the higher the dose, like 1000mg/wk and above, the more estrogenic side effects you will notice, though not as bad as test. I am an eq convert afterall.

The best thing abt winny and anavar is, both does not aromatise at any dosage. Winny is a precursor to dihydrotestosterone, and rarely, if never aromatise.

I think PANTS should stack winny(class II) with eq(class I) for optimality, if what you want is slow but lasting hard gains.
 
Jeez guys why don't we all confuse the guy some more.....Pants... take 50mg winny tabs ED for 7 or 8 weeks which ever you perfer... don't waste your time with the anavar unless you can get good quality stuff that is not **(to many bad reviews)...but ** winny gets good reviews so go with that unless you can get zampons winny amps for cheap... take clomid post cycle.... you will not get any bloat from this cycle you will gain a good 10 pounds or more dependin on your diet...... Good luck to ya bro...and I would perfer Winny or Anavar... but you could bridge at the end of you winny cycle with anavar if you wanted to try both....
 
Thanks Kry. Like the simplification........
I can only get the 5mg tabs, so I'll popping 10 of the xxckers a day? Do I pop them all at once or take 'em throughout the day?
Also is there any need to taper in the 7 weeks?
Thanx again
 
There is no need to taper.... about when to take the tabs alot of people have different opinions and it's probably different for everyone but if I were you I would take 25mg in am and 25mg in the pm....
 
Anything else I should chuck in during and/or after cycle?
Thinking of taking Creatine, ALA, Milk Thistle, Flax.
Anything else?
 
Pants...thanks for asking this question. I have been thinking about it also.
Guys......what about adding primo tabs to the winny only cycle?
 
You should add NAC(n-acetyl cysteine), Vitamin C and glutamine, besides ALA (their combined effect elevate liver glutathione levels) to protect and detoxify liver while on stanozolol. You can do away with milk thistle,which is inferior to the antioxidants stated above as a liver protectant. Phosphatidylcholine(lecithin) could be added to your arsenal as it helps regenerate damaged liver cells, treat liver disorders from chemical abuse.

Good luck to your winny cycle and keep us posted. :D
 
Never listen to the devil.

Bigsatan13 said:
:devil:
I will answer your questions:
1) yes
2) why not?
3) no
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Yes,yes, yes

Clomid is very easy to get, I actually get it from the UK. Email me and I will point you in the right direction.
 
My first cycle was a winny only cycle. Great results. 100 mg EOD (inj). My next cycle was a winny and var cycle...fucking awesome results -100 mg EOD (Drinking) and 40 mg Var ED. As for creatine, well, if it's just winny, it's not going to really give a whole bunch of help, but why not...it's cheap. If you do add the var, then the creatine will really help out. Add ALA (milk thistle is a waste) and glutamine as you should eat that shit even if your not on gear. I didn't hit any clomid or anything else after my cylce...It might have been a good idea.
 
Kry said:
There is no need to taper.... about when to take the tabs alot of people have different opinions and it's probably different for everyone but if I were you I would take 25mg in am and 25mg in the pm....
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this is correct, oral winny had a short (8 to 12 hour) half life.
 
A few last questions:
1) Should I add Arimidex to the cycle? Or just the Clomid?

2) Will I get results with a 6 week (not 8wk) cycle?

3) Will I experience any hair loss or acne during cycle?

thanx bros
 
PANTS said:
A few last questions:
1) Should I add Arimidex to the cycle? Or just the Clomid?

2) Will I get results with a 6 week (not 8wk) cycle?

3) Will I experience any hair loss or acne during cycle?

thanx bros
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1) You can run arimidex with the clomid (some say run it beyond for another 10 days also) to help bring back HPTA

2) Yes you will get results in 6 weeks - it varies from individual but generally you will continue to gain through 8 weeks. Play it by ear and see. I happen to get most of my gains early, hence I run shorter cycles which I believe is a positive.

3) Some lose hair on winny some don't it's particular to the individual. Winny isn't known to cause major acne problems but it may happen - same with clomid although some say that the arim. will help reign in the clomid acne.

-sometimes it's just a crap shoot but this is pretty moderate so I doubt you'll have many problems.
 
I got great results with a winny only cycle last summer, just make sure you take ALA, Milk thistle
 
Ok gonna run a 6 week cycle@40mg/ day.

How does the following Clomid schedule look:
Day 1:300mg
Day 2-14: 100mg
Day 15-21: 50mg
My question: is the Clomid schedule too strong or long for a short 6 week Winny cycle, or is it better to play it safe?

Thanx again.
 
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