Winstrol only cycle and muscle memory question

[rohanum]

I'm 6 feet 190 lbs 12% bf .Let me start by saying I have done two cycles , first one was test e and second one was tren e. I lost most of my gains cause I stopped bodybuilding for a year. I was 230 lbs before

I no longer want to look like a bodybuilder .. I want a fitness model type of look and I want to look aesthetic .. I don't want to be full of acne and stretch marks . I have found that an excess amount of estrogen gives me insane acne on my back and pretty much everywhere so I want to stay clear from any aromatizing steroids. as little as 250 mgs of test fucks me up but I can take 500 mgs of tren and Winstrol and I won't get a single spot . I guess I can take anti estrogens to solve this but the cost of that is a fuck lot more than just doing Winstrol only .. so I think just taking Winstrol only will give me more bang for buck .im not looking to put on shit lots of weight , as I said before I want to look like a fitness model with no acne and stretch marks ..so 15 lbs of lean muscle will be more than enough . Here are my questions -

1) what do you think of running Winstrol only at 70 mgs for 8 weeks
2) does muscle memory work when u are on steroids ? For instance I made massive gains on tren and test .. Will I gain it all back really fast due to muscle memory when on Winstrol ?
3) how much more/ less anabolic is Winstrol really when compared to testosterone ? The chart on the boards says its 3 times more anabolic but we all know these charts are bullshit
4) what were your gains on Winstrol ?
5) how long does it take for you to start noticing winstrols effects? Pump , vascularity etc ? I'm 3 days in and I don't see much at this point of time

 

[alcatraz1662]

I'm 6 feet 190 lbs 12% bf .Let me start by saying I have done two cycles , first one was test e and second one was tren e. I lost most of my gains cause I stopped bodybuilding for a year. I was 230 lbs before



I no longer want to look like a bodybuilder .. I want a fitness model type of look and I want to look aesthetic .. I don't want to be full of acne and stretch marks . I have found that an excess amount of estrogen gives me insane acne on my back and pretty much everywhere so I want to stay clear from any aromatizing steroids. as little as 250 mgs of test fucks me up but I can take 500 mgs of tren and Winstrol and I won't get a single spot . I guess I can take anti estrogens to solve this but the cost of that is a fuck lot more than just doing Winstrol only .. so I think just taking Winstrol only will give me more bang for buck .im not looking to put on shit lots of weight , as I said before I want to look like a fitness model with no acne and stretch marks ..so 15 lbs of lean muscle will be more than enough . Here are my questions -



1) what do you think of running Winstrol only at 70 mgs for 8 weeks

2) does muscle memory work when u are on steroids ? For instance I made massive gains on tren and test .. Will I gain it all back really fast due to muscle memory when on Winstrol ?

3) how much more/ less anabolic is Winstrol really when compared to testosterone ? The chart on the boards says its 3 times more anabolic but we all know these charts are bullshit

4) what were your gains on Winstrol ?

5) how long does it take for you to start noticing winstrols effects? Pump , vascularity etc ? I'm 3 days in and I don't see much at this point of time

1) don't like that
2) umm what?
3) u sound new
4) increased muscularity, good strength, and a torn tricep
5) for me 2 weeks I think

Neighborhood asshole welcomes u to EF

 

[rohanum]

1) don't like that
2) umm what?
3) u sound new
4) increased muscularity, good strength, and a torn tricep
5) for me 2 weeks I think

Neighborhood asshole welcomes u to EF

Not new .. Been doing it for 2 years .. Most people confuse gains with water retention and fat gains thus rate testosterone better so Im really confused as to how anabolic Winstrol really is and what kind of weight gains I can expect on it. I went from 200 lbs to 230 lbs on tren , now I'm 190.. Those gains were because of the tren.. so I want to know .. will muscle memory apply in this situation and will I gain it all back at a fast rate whem I'm on something relatively weak like Winstrol?

 

[caveolae]

At 6' and 190 you already are on the way to the 'model look' I would say. Seems like maybe you should just drop a few % BF and replace with muscle

 

[rohanum]

At 6' and 190 you already are on the way to the 'model look' I would say. Seems like maybe you should just drop a few % BF and replace with muscle

Yup i need to get to 7-8% and my goal is to be around 215 lbs shredded so I think Winstrol should do the job along with a good diet .. I might add tren ace here and there

 

[caveolae]

Just curious why you would select winny for this?

 

[rohanum]

Just curious why you would select winny for this?

I have found that i react very strongly to aas .. The stronger aromatizable stuff gets me huge and leaves me with stretch marks and acne .. My acne is estrogen induced .. I can take massive amounts of tren and winstrol but wont get a single spot but as little as 250 mgs of test gives me acne. I know it can be solved with anti estrogens but i just think its more cost effective to just run winstrol alone.. If my joints start bothering me or if the low estro sides get out of hand then ill add in 100 mgs of testosterone along with it. I just feel winstrol and maybe a little tren is all i need to get to my goal which is 210 lbs 8% bodyfat