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[slat1]

The thing that scares me about asking someone in the gym (or a trainer) is if they say "do this much" it is normally your only frame of reference.
Like everything else in life you need a second opinion.
I have been fortunate enough to meet well placed people in the industry who speak openly with me. I have learned a lot from them and I keep learning every time I see them.

 

[Tatyana]

wow I had no idea...I thought the normal dose a woman could handle was 20.
Thanks everyone I hope I don't start seeing sides 6 months from now. Now Im scared. She acted like this was perfectly fine...she is a friend too so I trusted her.

Does she use?

Does she have the look of an androgenised woman?


Some people in the BBing field often get quite accustomed to the look of androgenised, extremly muscled women.

There is nothing wrong with that at all, some women and men really like it, however, that is not a large proportion of the population.

You have to decide what you want to do with your body, what risks you will take.

Check out the girlies and gear sticky at the top.

There is a great thing by Amazon Doll in that section.

 

[ironwings]

You'll have to make that decision - depending on your goals. Women take 25mg a day but are typically professional Bb. BUT, I wanted to share my experience as it may help you prepare to go off at the end of your cycle. I did a 10mg cycle planned for 6 weeks. I stopped taking it week 4 because the side effects (joint pain - mostly in my knees, and acne) were too great and I wasn't seeing enough results to make it worth the side effects. Everyone experiences going off cycle differently but nothing I read or heard prepared me for how I felt. I found in my research that coming off simply feels like the flu for a few days but nothing serious. Flu my ass. My joints hurt so bad I couldn't function for 2 days. I laid in bed at night with icy hot patches on every single joint. It took weeks to feel better and more specifically be able to squat anything. You can get through it, I did, but would have handled it better would I have known. I would have planned to go off on a Friday so I'd have the weekend to recover. Hope this helps - good luck with your cycle!

 

[clar]

Oh great now im getting really scared. I really trusted her. I am still at 20 but tapering down. I am starting to see acne. She has used and alot of her figure girls have used before and none of them look like a man. So maybe I should taper down to 10 and stay on that til the end. Thanks everyone for your input..it is greatly appreciated.

 

[slat1]

Couple things to keep in mind...
It can take 8 to 10 months for a womans testosterone level to go back to normal after supplementing with AAS. That means when you come off you will not get the same results you would have gotten if you never went on for a period of time.
Taking AAS is like piloting the Titanic. They saw the iceburg coming. But remember its not what is above the surface you have to worry about... its below. Side effects start on the inside and work there way out. By the time you see something it may be too late.
Some people don't ever get sides you can see though. Unless they are get a complete blood panel before, during and after use they will never know what they have done, or are doing, to themselves.

 

[ironwings]

Knowledge is power. Panel testing is a must. My HDL went down 5mg/dl - the nurse was like - boy, you should really start an exercise program ;-)

 

[Tatyana]

I believe anavar is a HDL killer as well.

HDL is the 'good' cholesterol that you want loads of.

 

[slat1]

Var and all other oral steroids lower your good cholesterol.
If anyone does not know why that is bad you should not be using AAS and you should be using Google!

 

[superqt4u2nv]

I've been told that .5mg EOD is more than enough to achieve great result with little/no sides.

Winny`s half life is 9 hours going every other day will send the hormoes on a roller coster and more likely to see sides that way as well as moodiness.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Winny`s half life is 9 hours going every other day will send the hormoes on a roller coster and more likely to see sides that way as well as moodiness.

As I said, I know very little about these things. Back in the day the woman I know who ran this cycle saw AWESOME results with only the side of a tiny bit of increased body hair.

She ran this low dose cycle for 16 - 20 weeks I believe.

Everyone is different and everybody's body reacts differently to the same agents/foods/training. I've always been a hyuge proponent of the super low dose/super long cycle. Best longterm gains with the least amount of sides.

Goodness, couldn't imagine having to get pricked (lol) every day for 12 to 20 weeks! I know winny can be taken orally but I've not really known anyone who went that route.