Will smoking cannabis mess up my cycle???

[Rums]

Currently taking sust and dbol but am a user of cannabis - will it mess up my cycle anyhow???

 

[AhMadKooL]

If you smoke it and go to the gym you'll be sleeping at the bench press.

Besides that no it doesn't. Arnold used it (Pumping iron)

 

[bigcountry61]

if ur trying to bulk use it at nite....

 

[bicepts101]

nope it should help u eat...i would anly use it after 6pm though(assuming u workout before 6)

 

[25homes]

Hit it up bro no problem!!

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

A blunt is always nice..

 

[BuildUp]

Personally herb zaps my energy and concentration, I think IMHO any foreign drugs hamper gains completely. I should know I used to use that crap and it just makes it harder for this ectomorph to make gains.

 

[big_boy_1]

Currently taking sust and dbol but am a user of cannabis - will it mess up my cycle anyhow???

Not directly

Pot is a mild drug this days, but I see two risks

1. Smoking (cigarrettes, pot, whatever) is bad for your health, it may impair your pulmonary capacity, impairing extended or strenous workouts.

2. If you screw up on pot, you will also screw up on roids. If you can handle em, then its all right.

 

[BigCracker]

I wouldn't sweat it as long as it doesn't turn you into a couch potato. I know plenty of daily weed smokers that are huge-many toke up just before working out too.

A long time ago there used to be a belief that cannabis raised estrogen levels-which is outdated 411 that was disproven awhile back.

Now get ready to be flamed by the self righteous AAS users that believe all other drugs besides AAS, boner pills, and happy pills like Prozac are for losers.

 

[Pride Fighting Fan]

I smoke before every workout. It keeps me content, and I am able to workout for longer periods. Even Arnold smoked!

 

[Advisor_x]

Great no problems, but think that you should stack with some cocaine and add some heroin at the end of the workout.......

 

[Hamann5]

I'm probably wrong but isn't weed slightly estrogenic?? I'm sure it will not have any effect on your cycle unless you start to get gyno which your at risk with dbol and it might only make it worse.. at least thats something that I have heard

 

[Pride Fighting Fan]

Great no problems, but think that you should stack with some cocaine and add some heroin at the end of the workout.......

Here is how I would run it Week 1-12 7grams weed ed
3 grams coke ed
1 gram herion eod
pct 40ml malt liqour ed

 

[Hamann5]

Here is how I would run it Week 1-12 7grams weed ed
3 grams coke ed
1 gram herion eod
pct 40ml malt liqour ed

LOL

 

[karachi183]

yeah you'll have uncontrolable hunger pains!

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Here is how I would run it Week 1-12 7grams weed ed
3 grams coke ed
1 gram herion eod
pct 40ml malt liqour ed

Dont forget 10 hits of 'X' over the weekend, spaced 4 hours apart.. Want to get that ripped looked for the ladies..

 

[mkazzbmf]

Personally herb zaps my energy and concentration, I think IMHO any foreign drugs hamper gains completely. I should know I used to use that crap and it just makes it harder for this ectomorph to make gains.

I agree......gains come much faster for me without any drugs.


Kaz

 

[mm107]

A long time ago there used to be a belief that cannabis raised estrogen levels-which is outdated 411 that was disproven awhile back.

THANKS GOD! THIS WAS THE ONLY THING I WAS GONNA MENTION. I smoke postworkout everyday. So this was a concern for me as well.

Bulking i love it,

cutting i love it, but miss the food lol

 

[yautja]

thc (the active ingredient in pot) is structually similar to estrogen.
it attaches to the estrogen receptor and stimulates it causing gyno.
so no pot doesnt raise estrogen but it does attach to the receptor site.
this is what a gyno doc told me and it makes sense.

 

[jerichohill]

for my PCT I use

3 daily caps G. week 13-52
2-3 rolls every Saturday. week 13-52
1 100cc bottle of K every sat. week 13-52


This is only a joke! for MOST people!

L8R!

Here is how I would run it Week 1-12 7grams weed ed
3 grams coke ed
1 gram herion eod
pct 40ml malt liqour ed

 

[bigmouth2006]

when i was able to smoke i would take eca and a couple hits before a workout and have complete focus in the gym i loved it i was speeding but yet in no hurry to go anywhere

 

[bicepts101]

smoke weed who cares...it wont hinder gains anywhere near where alcohol will

 

[chestmaster1]

when i was able to smoke i would take eca and a couple hits before a workout and have complete focus in the gym i loved it i was speeding but yet in no hurry to go anywhere

yea that sounds like a good mix

I think the key is just to take a few hits before you work out, You don't wanna be to high but just a little bit I feel it makes me have a better work out

 

[bigmouth2006]

yea that sounds like a good mix

I think the key is just to take a few hits before you work out, You don't wanna be to high but just a little bit I feel it makes me have a better work out

yeah i wish i could still smoke. damn weekly drug test

 

[DannoMight]

I smoke a few times a day. I only smoke dank so I take between 6-12 puffs a day. It won't hinder ur gains. I got pics to prove.

 

[theprofessor]

when i was able to smoke i would take eca and a couple hits before a workout and have complete focus in the gym i loved it i was speeding but yet in no hurry to go anywhere

oh hell yes that stack rules

 

[bigmouth2006]

oh hell yes that stack rules

yeah had i couple buddies that i worked out with try it and they loved it as well. the pumps are awesome and if you don't believe me try it don't knock until you try it

 

[Advisor_x]

Dont forget 10 hits of 'X' over the weekend, spaced 4 hours apart.. Want to get that ripped looked for the ladies..

Never tought of Malt liquor and X.........think that I need some fiber added so I'll mix some Peyote and Magic Mushrooms..

 

[DannoMight]

I took x and acid together once. I took almost a week to recover from that weekend.

 

[bigmouth2006]

I took x and acid together once. I took almost a week to recover from that weekend.

yeah the first time i did that i thought that i was going to be retard for the rest of my life and after a few days i got better or use to it one of the two

 

[DannoMight]

yeah the first time i did that i thought that i was going to be retard for the rest of my life and after a few days i got better or use to it one of the two

I'll still pop a few rolls at the club on rare occasion but I won't ever do acid again. I had my fun with a shitload of green gelcaps when I was 16-17. Waspaying less than a buck a hit and was having people frying and watching twigged out movies at my house damn near every weekend.

 

[Bruce]

fire fire got me so tired ima stop drop and roll, put a wet towel under the door. don't pass it i can't take it no more.....hell yea smoke that shit son. the only way i can get my diet in is with some fire.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Never tought of Malt liquor and X.........think that I need some fiber added so I'll mix some Peyote and Magic Mushrooms..

Shrooms are good with hot cocoa.. Im just going by what I have heard..

 

[mr. snakes]

Currently taking sust and dbol but am a user of cannabis - will it mess up my cycle anyhow???

It will give you an increase in appetite, so no won't mess up your cycle just don't use it before or during a workout

 

[wellbilt]

i have been smokin the chronic for years and have made great gains on and off cycle while smoking
i have been tryin to stop smoking lateley because i feel it demotivates me but this dam thread make me want to smoke

 

[PEDRO-G]

I usually smoke before every workout, not much just a one hit or two with a one hitter, and 16oz of coffee. It makes me concentrate and can feel my muscles working to capacity, get me fired up to train. Later Bro

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

i have been smokin the chronic for years and have made great gains on and off cycle while smoking
i have been tryin to stop smoking lateley because i feel it demotivates me but this dam thread make me want to smoke

NortherLights...Blue Maui...PurpleHaze...smoke away bro!

 

[wellbilt]

purple coush .sour deisel .train wreck
fuck it ima roll one up righty now
the tren aint gonna keep me up tonight lol

 

[Quadsweep]

I burn before every workout. Star Buck's...Venti red eye, 50mg Efedrine HCL....DANKOLICIOUS! Put my headphones in with some Slip Knot and some Static X, And Korn! On the way!

Q.

 

[bigmouth2006]

I burn before every workout. Star Buck's...Venti red eye, 50mg Efedrine HCL....DANKOLICIOUS! Put my headphones in with some Slip Knot and some Static X, And Korn! On the way!

Q.

fuckin right

 

[wellbilt]

i have smoked many times before a workout and i gotta say the concentration is insane ,but sometimes it backfires an ill be all paranoid and think everone knows im high even though i dont give a fuck what anyone thinks
i have had some awesome workouts blazed outa my gord ,its like your brain is directly connected to the muscle your training
makes me wanna burn one now and run to the gym lol

 

[alex295]

never seen so many stupid comments. those of you who claim to be "pro" bodybuilders should know that many universities have done research on marijuana and test levels if any of you read "it lowers them"!!!

 

[Achilles_Bane]

Sometimes when I smoke, I need to do push ups, dive-bmbers, crunches and calf raises just to remain calm. I often overdo the herb and a nice workout is all I can do to enjoy the high. weird.

 

[bigmouth2006]

never seen so many stupid comments. those of you who claim to be "pro" bodybuilders should know that many universities have done research on marijuana and test levels if any of you read "it lowers them"!!!

i guess we are just some stupid fuckin idoits aren't we alex295. just to think that we were, ah, ah what the fuck were we just talking about? shit, i hate it when i do that. damn weed

 

[Pride Fighting Fan]

never seen so many stupid comments. those of you who claim to be "pro" bodybuilders should know that many universities have done research on marijuana and test levels if any of you read "it lowers them"!!!

Arnold smoked all the time during his career in bodybuilding. I don't think smoking hurt his levels much!

 

[bigmouth2006]

Arnold smoked all the time during his career in bodybuilding. I don't think smoking hurt his levels much!

yeah alex you suck.

lol

 

[Bruce]

blah blah blah, i smoke every day before after shit i would during. stay concentrated the whole time. my boy is 215 7% year round he smokes a fat blunt and a parliament light before every workout. it does not lower test it reduces sperm count. making it less possible to have a baby, jea.
QUOTE=alex295]never seen so many stupid comments. those of you who claim to be "pro" bodybuilders should know that many universities have done research on marijuana and test levels if any of you read "it lowers them"!!![/QUOTE]

 

[DannoMight]

never seen so many stupid comments. those of you who claim to be "pro" bodybuilders should know that many universities have done research on marijuana and test levels if any of you read "it lowers them"!!!

Not enough to stammer the gains off a G+ of any cycle. BTW None of us claim to be a pro BB. I know several huge guys that torque the kind. Its the best natural appetite stimulant you can get.

 

[ego boner]

thc (the active ingredient in pot) is structually similar to estrogen.
it attaches to the estrogen receptor and stimulates it causing gyno.
so no pot doesnt raise estrogen but it does attach to the receptor site.
this is what a gyno doc told me and it makes sense.

Cou(bullshit)gh

 

[uglyass]

never seen so many stupid comments. those of you who claim to be "pro" bodybuilders should know that many universities have done research on marijuana and test levels if any of you read "it lowers them"!!!

Post up some refrences to these studies then... or are you talking SHIT?

UglyASS

 

[Ozz2001]

never seen so many stupid comments. those of you who claim to be "pro" bodybuilders should know that many universities have done research on marijuana and test levels if any of you read "it lowers them"!!!

lol we got a edumacted one here....Pot gives yea great pumps and focus..

So tell me how would you know what bodybuilders do on there own time?

 

[BigCracker]

Marijuana: interaction with the estrogen receptor

MA Sauer, SM Rifka, RL Hawks, GB Cutler and DL Loriaux

Crude marijuana extract competed with estradiol for binding to the estrogen receptor of rat uterine cytosol. Condensed marijuana smoke also competed with estradiol for its receptor. Pure delta 9- tetrahydrocannabinol, however, did not interact with the estrogen receptor. Ten delta 9-tetrahydrocannabinol metabolites also failed to compete with estradiol for its receptor. Of several other common cannabinoids tested, only cannabidiol showed any estrogen receptor binding. This was evident only at very high concentrations of cannabidiol. Apigenin, the aglycone of a flavinoid phytoestrogen found in cannabis, displayed high affinity for the estrogen receptor. To assess the biological significance of these receptor data, estrogen activity was measured in vivo with the uterine growth bioassay, using immature rats. Cannabis extract in large doses exhibited neither estrogenic nor antiestrogenic effects. Thus, although estrogen receptor binding activity was observed in crude marijuana extract, marijuana smoke condensate and several known components of cannabis, direct estrogenic activity of cannabis extract could not be demonstrated in vivo.

 

[BigCracker]

Here is how I would run it Week 1-12 7grams weed ed
3 grams coke ed
1 gram herion eod
pct 40ml malt liqour ed

3 grams of coke is unrealistic-an 8 ball weighs 3.5 grams (1/8 oz)and is probably the most common quantity people buy for personal use. Nobody's gonna have do 3 grams in one day and have .5 grams left over-they're gonna toot that up too.

The heroin should be broken up into intervals over 48 hrs to minimize chances of OD'ing. Mixed w/ spit and cooked in a spoon then sucked into syringe through a tiny cottonball filter for sterilization purposes.

For pct 40 ml of malt liquor(I like Olde English 800)is fine, but I think adding couple shots of Ouzo(a licorice based greek liquer) ED is good for the cock.

Other options would be

5 packs of cigarettes ED

1 small bowl of 50% Prozac Pill and 50% Rice Crispies in milk ED

10 hits off the meth pipe pre workout(speed kills, but not very quickly)

Viagra ED or as needed.

Weed as a sleep aid to promote gh release

1 Joe Weider Anabolic Mega Pack ED

pct- masturbate to busty teen shaved asian transgender pregnant midget bukkake porn ED(it gets the poison out)

 

[Bozwell]

when you get youre weed try to find out what kind it is
most indicas wil put you to sleep and make you very hungery red eyed and smiling
sativas on the other hand will have you rushing round with youre mind racing youre heart pounding buzzing with energy ,Ideal work out weed
if you grow youre own you can grow for you needs
(sativa)c99 , silver haze ect for day time/workout
(indica)sensi star, blueberry ect are calming hunger enducing day ending smokes

 

[BigCracker]

when you get youre weed try to find out what kind it is
most indicas wil put you to sleep and make you very hungery red eyed and smiling
sativas on the other hand will have you rushing round with youre mind racing youre heart pounding buzzing with energy ,Ideal work out weed
if you grow youre own you can grow for you needs
(sativa)c99 , silver haze ect for day time/workout
(indica)sensi star, blueberry ect are calming hunger enducing day ending smokes

What about Purple Kush? Northern Lights? Popcorn? Nuclear 19?

 

[Bozwell]

What about Purple Kush? Northern Lights? Popcorn? Nuclear 19?

northern lights is a heavy indica not ,workout weed
as for popcorn, nuclear 19 and puple kush I dont know anything about
so I cant comment

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

3 grams of coke is unrealistic-an 8 ball weighs 3.5 grams (1/8 oz)and is probably the most common quantity people buy for personal use. Nobody's gonna have do 3 grams in one day and have .5 grams left over-they're gonna toot that up too.

The heroin should be broken up into intervals over 48 hrs to minimize chances of OD'ing. Mixed w/ spit and cooked in a spoon then sucked into syringe through a tiny cottonball filter for sterilization purposes.

For pct 40 ml of malt liquor(I like Olde English 800)is fine, but I think adding couple shots of Ouzo(a licorice based greek liquer) ED is good for the cock.

Other options would be

5 packs of cigarettes ED

1 small bowl of 50% Prozac Pill and 50% Rice Crispies in milk ED

10 hits off the meth pipe pre workout(speed kills, but not very quickly)

Viagra ED or as needed.

Weed as a sleep aid to promote gh release

1 Joe Weider Anabolic Mega Pack ED

pct- masturbate to busty teen shaved asian transgender pregnant midget bukkake porn ED(it gets the poison out)

your too much bro..

 

[bicepts101]

wow..people really smoke up before working out?....what about hydration problem...i know as soon as i smoke i get super thirsty.

shit u guys are making me wanna smoke before my workout today...but that wouldnt work cause i have to go to work right after

 

[ego boner]

i ALWAYS smoke before workout, pure hawaiian sativa, feels like coke without the edge, when i want to go to sleep i smoke mazar, nothing like herb for focus or disfocus, whichever way you wanna go,,,

By the way Cracker, you crack me up maing, Peace to all bro's,

Ego Boner

 

[AhMadKooL]

never seen so many stupid comments. those of you who claim to be "pro" bodybuilders should know that many universities have done research on marijuana and test levels if any of you read "it lowers them"!!!

Why u slamming Da Chronic???

Lighters up Biatch

 

[Bruce]

i can't remember the last time i did work or anything when i hadn't smoked first. i have serious A.D.D and weed completely calms me down and makes me focus. its the only thing that works for me. i used to feel bad in college until i realized that i got A's when i was doing work high and B's or C's when i wasn't. guess everyone is different. i'm a big fan of kush, have no clue if its an indica or sativa but i am good to go on it.

wow..people really smoke up before working out?....what about hydration problem...i know as soon as i smoke i get super thirsty.

shit u guys are making me wanna smoke before my workout today...but that wouldnt work cause i have to go to work right after

 

[BigCracker]

i can't remember the last time i did work or anything when i hadn't smoked first. i have serious A.D.D and weed completely calms me down and makes me focus. its the only thing that works for me. i used to feel bad in college until i realized that i got A's when i was doing work high and B's or C's when i wasn't. guess everyone is different. i'm a big fan of kush, have no clue if its an indica or sativa but i am good to go on it.

Kinda funny-the valadictorian of my high school's graduating class with a 4.0 gpa dropped 'cid almost daily. He was voted class brain and biggest stoner simultaneously. He's a cardiologist now and still uses rec drugs regularly. So much for the drugs hinder one's performance in life theory? Half the non-rec drug using roid heads that post here can't even write a sentence without mispellings or blatant grammatical errors. Then again, you can't fix stupid I guess?

 

[BigCracker]

wow..people really smoke up before working out?....what about hydration problem...i know as soon as i smoke i get super thirsty.

shit u guys are making me wanna smoke before my workout today...but that wouldnt work cause i have to go to work right after

Smoking weed before work is cool-especially if you're an airline pilot. Half of those guys are still lit from drinking booze the night before anyway.

 

[KOArtist]

 

[Bruce]

hell yea i'd roy jones about 10 motherfuckers for just starin daily if i wasn't baked and on klonopin. just got an irish/russian temper.

 

[KOArtist]

^^^^^^^lol ain't that the truth. Many many jaws, noses, teeth, and lives have been saved/spared by the cannabis, and they didn't even know it, lol.

 

[serapio2]

For pct can I frontload with half bottle of grain ed?
I was thinking of adding the prozac

 

[BigCracker]

Frontload the grain IV and you'll be dialed in. Prozac rocks, even if abrupt discontinuation causes depression and suicidal thoughts-just make sure you never run out.

 

[1thuglife]

I smoked for years and I came to realize something either you're a pot smoker or you're a budibuilder, the only drugs a bodybuilder uses is he's gear......

 

[bigmouth2006]

I smoked for years and I came to realize something either you're a pot smoker or you're a budibuilder, the only drugs a bodybuilder uses is he's gear......

meaning...are you saying because i or we smoke were not bodybuilders? so what was ARONLD?

 

[DannoMight]

^^^^^I choose both. Some of us can walk and chew gum.

 

[wellbilt]

how the hell am i supposed to quit the herb with a thread like this floating around
it just makes me wanna blaze a fatty lol
dam i quit smoking cigs and that seems easier then this

 

[BigCracker]

I smoked for years and I came to realize something either you're a pot smoker or you're a budibuilder, the only drugs a bodybuilder uses is he's gear......

Don't be a 'tard. You put your pants on one leg at a time just like everyone else.

Regardless of whether you're a juicemonster, alcoholic, jesus freak, roller, stoner, tweeker, compulsive gambler, workaholic, or crackhead, only assholes force their lifestyle choices down anyone else's throat.

There's nothing wrong with feeling that your lifestyle choices are more intelligent and more fulfilling, but that's just your individual opinion. Everybody has a vice of some sort, the sooner you realize that you're no different you'll be better off.

I'd like to see you tell some of my dope smoking buddy's w/ multiple BB titles that they're not bodybuilders. Obviously the judges thought they looked BB enough to win their contests-some competitors even fire up before going on stage.

 

[BigCracker]

how the hell am i supposed to quit the herb with a thread like this floating around
it just makes me wanna blaze a fatty lol
dam i quit smoking cigs and that seems easier then this

Don't feel bad, tobacco is the most addictive shit on Earth and kills way more people in one day than weed will ever kill anyone in our lifetime.

 

[wellbilt]

ill tell ya what i always chose pot because i thought the side effects were much less then alcohol or anything else as far as bb goes
i can smoke and still get a good workout no matter what but if i go out on a friday and get retarted you can bet that my workout the next day will suffer
oh and big cracker i know one thing about the purple kush
its some dam good shiat and hard to conceal you can smell it a mile away ,its all ive been smokin lateley ,only the best for my body lol

 

[Pride Fighting Fan]

 

[BigCracker]

ill tell ya what i always chose pot because i thought the side effects were much less then alcohol or anything else as far as bb goes
i can smoke and still get a good workout no matter what but if i go out on a friday and get retarted you can bet that my workout the next day will suffer
oh and big cracker i know one thing about the purple kush
its some dam good shiat and hard to conceal you can smell it a mile away ,its all ive been smokin lateley ,only the best for my body lol

Yeah bro, me too. You could give me an lb of shwag mexi brick shit for free and I wouldn't touch it. It's like drinking Keystone Lite beer that's gone flat. Purple K is awesome-but don't see it too often. About once a year I get some killer Kief-which I like better than any bud.


Funny you mention that about alcohol. It was one thing I grew up around that wasn't strictly forbidden(rec drugs like weed were a huge no-no) and I never really liked booze for anything more than loosening some slut's inhibitions. Roofies work better for that anyway. lol Everything else besides alcohol seemed so alluring-so as soon as my parents turned their back I tried just about everything. They'd accuse me of being on drugs all of the time when I wasn't. Then I'd drop acid /smoke weed and be totally wasted and they'd tell me how much more pleasant I was to be around when I was straight. WTF? Imagine the message that sent to my impressionable teenage brain. Obviously I carried it well into adulthood. At least bodybuilding made me responsible about my partying. Then using PK's crept up on me and fucked my life up pretty bad. I've recovered since then, but it made me realize nobody is immune from addiction 100%. Even the strongest willed peeps can crumble when they least expect it.

 

[wellbilt]

Yeah bro, me too. You could give me an lb of shwag mexi brick shit for free and I wouldn't touch it. It's like drinking Keystone Lite beer that's gone flat. Purple K is awesome-but don't see it too often. About once a year I get some killer Kief-which I like better than any bud.


Funny you mention that about alcohol. It was one thing I grew up around that wasn't strictly forbidden(rec drugs like weed were a huge no-no) and I never really liked booze for anything more than loosening some slut's inhibitions. Roofies work better for that anyway. lol Everything else besides alcohol seemed so alluring-so as soon as my parents turned their back I tried just about everything. They'd accuse me of being on drugs all of the time when I wasn't. Then I'd drop acid /smoke weed and be totally wasted and they'd tell me how much more pleasant I was to be around when I was straight. WTF? Imagine the message that sent to my impressionable teenage brain. Obviously I carried it well into adulthood. At least bodybuilding made me responsible about my partying. Then using PK's crept up on me and fucked my life up pretty bad. I've recovered since then, but it made me realize nobody is immune from addiction 100%. Even the strongest willed peeps can crumble when they least expect it.

glad to hear everything worked out for ya man
addiction is some serious shiat
oh yea i love the keif too

 

[KOArtist]

Then using PK's crept up on me and fucked my life up pretty bad.

drawing a blank here...what's a "PK"???

 

[Bruce]

pk's = painkillers aka: the fucking devil. my lord it was the hardest thing i ever did beating that addiction. cracker what were you on bro. pk's are so dangerous because so many americans are on them, ive heard up to 75%, you can walk around and pop them without anyone knowing. not that i respect him but look how long rush limbaugh went without telling anyone. luckily i have strong friends and family that helped me through it and made it possible for me to admit

 

[BigCracker]

pk's = painkillers aka: the fucking devil. my lord it was the hardest thing i ever did beating that addiction. cracker what were you on bro. pk's are so dangerous because so many americans are on them, ive heard up to 75%, you can walk around and pop them without anyone knowing. not that i respect him but look how long rush limbaugh went without telling anyone. luckily i have strong friends and family that helped me through it and made it possible for me to admit

I was mainlining the BB PK Du Jour aka Nubain. It's similar to Morphine. It can be taken sub q, intra-musc., or IV. It started off as a pre workout thing sub-q. It made me not feel tired and I was easily motivated to do a few extra sets per bodypart every workout. After about a yr of using 1x/day, I started taking it before bed too. Soon after that I started dieting, and sub-q'ing it right after getting out of bed just before AM cardio. About 6 months later I broke up w/ my GF of 5 yrs. That's when I started mainlining it-big difference in feeling. Instead of feeling good gradually over 20 minutes, I would feel it intensely after 30 seconds. I immediately started using it as a crutch to get through the day. This lasted 3.5 yrs until my source ran into some family troubles and left town-giving me 3 days to taper off before going cold turkey. The 72 hrs that followed was like having the flu, stomache cramps, and constipation. That wasn't the worst part though. I couldn't sleep at night more than 1-2 hrs for almost a month(smoking weed didn't help either). I was a zombie during the day and getting to the gym took a lot of effort. After I was sleeping normally again, I still missed the feeling Nubain gave me for about 3-4 months. I'd think about it a few times a day, but I eventually stopped. It's been 13 months since I took my last shot and I'm feeling like myself again. I'm finally beginning to realize just how bad it fucked my life up too. I still miss it for pre workout-but I'll never use it again. It's just not worth it.

 

[02gixxersix2]

I used to love smokin before my workouts. Now I'm in the damn military and I can't smoke for 4 more years. I don't see it being a problem....everything in moderation.