Will Equipoise, winny and clen cut 20lbs?

[Big ste]

Guys,
I'm an ex boxer and as of this year no longer fighting as I'm 37yrs. I'm 19st 4lbs and mid teens BF%. I'm looking to harden up and cut a stone in my 12 week cycle by keeping the bag work/skipping/sparring but after my weights sessions. Diet is nice n healthy.
I've done quite a bit of research as I have an underactive thyroid for which I take 100mcg of Levothyroxine (T4).
I'm looking at EQ (500mg every 8 days) due to its slow but steady hardening qualities, alongside the stanozolol and Clenbuterol (4 on 1 off). I'm taking in peptide bonded aminos throughout the day and upping the potassium/taurine via multivits.
This isn't a stack as there's no Test in it but as a fat loss/hardening cycle would it be any good? I'm slightly concerned about a large appetite increase with EQ!

Any advice would be appreciated guys.

 

[needtogetaas]

did you say you were 19 years old?

 

[Big ste]

? 37yrs old.

 

[pbhardbody]

I think he is saying his weight is 19 "st" or stones. Whatever a stone weighs huh?

 

[Big ste]

To simplify,
I'm an ex boxer and as of this year no longer fighting as I'm 37yrs. I'm 6"4 tall, 270lbs and approx 15% bodyfat. I'm looking to harden up and cut a stone in my 12 week cycle by keeping the bag work /skipping/sparring but after my weights sessions. Diet is nice and healthy.
I've done quite a bit of research as I have an underactive thyroid for which I take 100mcg of Levothyroxine.
I'm looking at EQ (500mg every 8 days) due to its slow but steady hardening qualities, alongside the stanozolol and Clenbuterol (4 on 1 off). I'm taking in peptide bonded aminos throughout the day and upping the potassium/taurine via multivits.
This isn't a stack as there's no Test in it but as a fat loss/hardening cycle would it be any good? I'm slightly concerned about a large appetite increase with EQ!

Any advice would be appreciated guys.

 

[goin on 4T]

You are better off cleaning up your diet and doing cardio. Then running your AAS. Also if you have a thyroid problem I would be very weary of using clenbuteral without talking to my dr about it.

 

[Big ste]

My diet and cardio are strong as I'm still boxing 4/a week. All I need to do for the diet is cut down on the complex carbs as I won't need as much if I'm looking to cut up (and increase the protein intake as I was only on around 150gm a day when boxing). How I looked was irrelevant when fighting but now I want to change my goals.
I'm looking for any advice on whether the mix of EQ/Winy and Clen is a decent mix to speed up the hardening/cutting?

 

[2evil]

Any cycle history? What you're proposing will shut you down but not replace your natural testosterone on cycle (or your DHT) so libido problems are likely. Also, it all depends on your goals. Are you going to cut and then bulk? Or do you just want to cut your BF a bit and stay there?

 

[Big ste]

Yeah, just cutting and maintaining is the goal. I've ordered some Nolvadex too even though there are little estrogen issues. I was gonna run at one Nolva ED just to be safe. This is my second cycle. I did a deca/winny cycle ten yrs ago but none since gaining my pro license 10yrs ago. I've no current desire to go above a lean 260lbs at present.

 

[2evil]

Yeah, just cutting and maintaining is the goal. I've ordered some Nolvadex too even though there little estrogen issues. I was gonna run at one Nolva ED just to be safe. This is my second cycle. I did a deca/winny cycle ten yrs ago but none since gaining my pro license 10yrs ago.

Then I'd do something like this:

wks 1-14 Test 250MG
wks 1-13 Primo 400MG

Read up on PCT. This is an awesome article:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/official-pct-2010-a-642825.html

If you're set on EQ
wks 1-14 Test 250MG
wks 1-12 EQ 600MG

 

[Big ste]

Thanks for the advice. Adding Test would definitely make it a cycle which I wasn't after for this first go. Is running EQ,Clen and Winny without any test a waste of time or dangerous due to the shutdown issues? (or both?!)

 

[2evil]

Thanks for the advice. Adding Test would definitely make it a cycle which I wasn't after for this first go. Is running EQ,Clen and Winny without any test a waste of time or dangerous due to the shutdown issues? (or both?!)

Yeah because even though their considered mild EQ and Winny are steroids and will shut down natural test production. Test @ 250MG EW week you're not likely to experience any estrogen related sides. It's basically 2X the HRT dose and enough to keep the libido working well and add more of an androgen.

The reason I'd favor Primo over EQ is that your trying to cut. EQ will work in a calorie deficit just like Primo BUT has increases appetite for a lot of people. Big time too - not just a little bit. Primo will also reduce the need for an AI to nearly zero. You should always have one on hand though.

 

[Big ste]

Food for thought. Thanks for the advice. I'm gonna have to revise my plans as I wasn't going to add Test!

 

[goin on 4T]

If you are running anything you should add test in some form and to stay dry either use suspension or prop. If you really want to cut hard core than run a test prop, masteron and tren ace with some winney. Honestly I have run clen before even though I knew all the risks but wanted to loose fat. I would never run it again. It enlarges your heart do to collegen and it also stiffens the walls of the heart and winney will increase collegen production as well so the two are not a good mix.

 

[Big ste]

I've decided to take the advice and add test. I've got my gear, Eq and Sustanon and Nolva.
Gonna run 16wks. As a 37yr old who hasn't ran a cycle what doses would you guys suggest?
Mick Hart from NoBull and MickHart.com is adamant that only 100mg of EQ per shot is absorbed and necessary and the rest is wasted so shoot perhaps EQ every 4/5 days and Sustanon 250 once a week? As per previous post an the pic of me to your left, I'm 37yr old, 6"4 tall, 280lbs. Only medication I take is levothyroxin for an underactive thyroid.

 

[gstacker]

I would advise keep researching... Eq I would run min 16 weeks that's my opinion Along with others

 

[Big ste]

amended to 16wks. This is part of my research dude, the forum!

Quote:
I've decided to take the advice and add test. I've got my gear, eq and sustanon and nolva.
Gonna run 16wks. As a 37yr old who hasn't ran a cycle what doses would you guys suggest?
Mick Hart from NoBull and MickHart.com is adamant that only 100mg of eq per shot is absorbed and necessary and the rest is wasted so shoot perhaps eq every 4/5 days and sustanon 250 once a week? As per previous post an the pic of me to your left, I'm 37yr old, 6"4 tall, 280lbs. Only medication I take is levothyroxin for an underactive thyroid.

 

[gstacker]

Ok looks good then to me.... Gl