WIll adding HCGenerate here prevent my shutdown?

[uhh123abc]

Worried about getting shutdown, I'm currently in the middle of week 7. Should I run HCGenerate through week 11? Here's my cycle:


Helladrol:50/75/75/100/125/125
HCGenerate 2-6
Forma Stanzol 2-6
n2Guard 1-6
n2slin 5.5-6 (Decided to throw it on)

Now, here is my PCT (currently in the middle of week 7, the start of my PCT) (7-11)

Creatine
N2guard
Forged post cycle
Test Infusion
Forma stanzol
n2slin
Keto burn (8-11)



Normal supplements: (Ran yearround)
Kirkland Fish oil softgels
Animal Pak multis
n2amp
Power chews preworkout


*Starting a cut next week (Week 8) and running it through and beyond PCT

 

[stevesmi]

6 weeks of helladrol will cause suppression. you are confusing suppression/shutdown with loss of libido. they are not the same thing.

do a little more reading on the subject, i'm not gonna explain the difference it would take too much time. but every AAS will cause suppresion, the longer you stay on the more suppression you get. if you run a short acting oral like in this case for just 6 weeks suppression will be mild. and you should bounce back nicely. now as for your question hcgenerate will definately prevent your nuts from shrinking so it is an excellent choice if you are concerned with that. and it also helps with cholesterol and keeping libido strong. so yes its a great add for your cycle

with your pct it looks good.. only thing i would do is move the keto burn to finish your cycle and not in pct. and then i would add a bottle of phyto-serms in there.. you can save your test infusion for your bridge instead and save your forged post cycle for another time. that would be a great way to extend your gains and also recover quickly. you can get a discount for phyto below in my sig, just click the banner and use the codes!

 

[uhh123abc]

6 weeks of helladrol will cause suppression. you are confusing suppression/shutdown with loss of libido. they are not the same thing.

do a little more reading on the subject, i'm not gonna explain the difference it would take too much time. but every AAS will cause suppresion, the longer you stay on the more suppression you get. if you run a short acting oral like in this case for just 6 weeks suppression will be mild. and you should bounce back nicely. now as for your question hcgenerate will definately prevent your nuts from shrinking so it is an excellent choice if you are concerned with that. and it also helps with cholesterol and keeping libido strong. so yes its a great add for your cycle

with your pct it looks good.. only thing i would do is move the keto burn to finish your cycle and not in pct. and then i would add a bottle of phyto-serms in there.. you can save your test infusion for your bridge instead and save your forged post cycle for another time. that would be a great way to extend your gains and also recover quickly. you can get a discount for phyto below in my sig, just click the banner and use the codes!

Thank you for the response steve, and I haven't seen those discount codes until you just posted now, those will help in the future, so thank you. But, I find it interesting that you'd say save the test infusion for my bridge, as it was placed there to get my body to produce test again. I don't think I'm wrong in thinking that, am I? Forged post is there for that reason as well. There seems to be a lot of differing opinions on the subject. And as for the ketoburn, I think I will move it back a little bit, but I still need time to make a cut.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ test infusion is a natty test booster. so you can use it in pct or bridge. either way. i'm just saying phtyo-serms is much more effective in pct than anything else you could use so i'm trying to save you money so you can save the infusion for bridge instead of running both just in pct. this way you can continue to gain all the way through bridge into your next cycle. hope that makes sense.

 

[uhh123abc]

^^^ test infusion is a natty test booster. so you can use it in pct or bridge. either way. i'm just saying phtyo-serms is much more effective in pct than anything else you could use so i'm trying to save you money so you can save the infusion for bridge instead of running both just in pct. this way you can continue to gain all the way through bridge into your next cycle. hope that makes sense.

No no it certainly does, it's certainly a more practical move. I'm just worried that my PCT isn't good enough to make me retain all my gains. I think I'm just overthinking things. Thank you for your help steve.

 

[stevesmi]

^^ you will retain most of your gains with a good pct. with a bad pct you will lose most of your gains. thats the difference.

also keep in mind its important to continue pushing yourself within reason off cycle as it is on. and keep eating like a lifter/bodybuilder. if you go back to eating like a teenage boy, you will look like one.. thats the hard part.. some days i don't feel like eating but i know i have to .

 

[uhh123abc]

^^ you will retain most of your gains with a good pct. with a bad pct you will lose most of your gains. thats the difference.

also keep in mind its important to continue pushing yourself within reason off cycle as it is on. and keep eating like a lifter/bodybuilder. if you go back to eating like a teenage boy, you will look like one.. thats the hard part.. some days i don't feel like eating but i know i have to .

Oh yeah of course, everyone should know that (except those people that don't do PCT). That PCT was approved of by a few other members here I'm just thinking of everything I can do to make it better. That's why I'm looking for reassurance.

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

You have a good PCT, but you might have a somewhat hard time recovering with it. This this PCT.

PCT: 5 weeks
week 1-2
kick start (2 weeks): HCGenerate ES - 2 caps AM/1 post workout/1 PM
+ d-spark 1cap/ED
week 1-5--following:
Clomid 75/50/25/25/25 (ag-guys)
arimidex 0.25mgs EOD week 1-2, E3D week 3, none week 4-5
N2Guard - 2 caps AM/2 post workout/3 PM (n2bm)

 

[dylangemelli]

I am a firm believer in an extensive pct... Just keep in mind, that a strong pct will give you a much greater chance of keeping your gains, but essentially, YOU will be the determining factor in gain retention... You need to bust your ass in pct, stay motivated, eat properly, etc... I found in the past, when I was really trying to add size, there is a period where you really have to watch your calorie intake closely... I normally shred down gains a bit but when you are trying to maintain a certain size, you will most definitely need to adjust your intake accordingly or you will lose some size... Some will lose it faster than others but you need to do a bit of trial and error... It may only be a few hundred extra calories, it may be more or if your lucky, it won't require a change... Just monitor it closely... You are running excellent pct products and that will help you to recover but you must take control as well...

 

[Jbranken]

OP, I ran a pct similar to yours (added methyl eaa as well) and had great recovery and kept my lifts up. I really enjoyed the keto in pct as well for its anti cortisol properties. Don't over think it, you'll like your pct setup