Why use anything but OX??

[BullGod]

With some of the recent scary threads on AAS and major sides, (i.e. complete liver failure, kidney failure, etc.) I wonder if you choose to use AAS, why use anything but Oxandrolone??

When I see people post use of Anadrol or D-Bol or even Winny - I think WHY????

When a drug like OX is available that has study after "gold standard" medical study indicating no aromatizing, and low or no hepa or renal toxicity - why use anything else?!

Also - OX is highly anabolic, and the gains are quality and retainable. I can understand for the professional competing bodybuilder, but for most of us bodybuilding enthusiast - OX is by far all you need and more.

Long term - If you are going to use AAS, OX is the only way to go IMO.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

maybe cuz its ALL FUCKING FAKE!!!!

that could be the problem.......

 

[Zyglamail]

maybe cuz its ALL FUCKING FAKE!!!!

that could be the problem.......

LOL aint that the truth. Additionally its expensive as hell.

 

[RdStrcklnd]

maybe cuz its ALL FUCKING FAKE!!!!

that could be the problem.......

Thats fucking funny. Also, the gains are milder than some (most) want when taking AS, 5-10 lbs in eights weeks with Ox, or 25-30 with test.

 

[BullGod]

lol @ Warbird - forgot about that small problem. I guess not everyone lives minutes from TJ - the home of Denkall OX

 

[BullGod]

RdStrcklnd - I think you underestimate OX potential. Also are you a Tito fan?? What do you think of Tito Vs. Ken tonight??

 

[Nelson Montana]

Expensive. Hard to find. Liver toxic.

 

[ZKaudio]

how have the results been from denkall ox?

 

[RdStrcklnd]

Also are you a Tito fan?? What do you think of Tito Vs. Ken tonight??

Yeah, I'm a big Tito fan, he almost beat Ken in there first fight, now that Ken is older and Tito better, its Tito all the way.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

lol @ Warbird - forgot about that small problem. I guess not everyone lives minutes from TJ - the home of Denkall OX

yeah, funny stuff. but honestly....were it like most AAS and you could get it legit and dosed properly, i'd love to do say two anavar/winny or anavar only cycles a year for like 10 weeks ...with one massive 12 week monster test/fina/EQ/dbol etc stack in the middle of the year. keep things balanced and in order. couple months off inbetween these cycles with clomid etc of course. would be nice. just too much of a crapshoot all around with anavar nowadays.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

Yeah, I'm a big Tito fan, he almost beat Ken in there first fight, now that Ken is older and Tito better, its Tito all the way.

the worlds most dangerous man WILL prevail tonight. what else is on the card tonight for me to waste my money and get a 90$ cable bill this month again? (olympia last month.....)

 

[RdStrcklnd]

I was actually thinking about when he fought Frank, hes never fought Ken but Ken is even older and a worse fighter IMO. The rest of the fight card is pretty weak though, but there are always good fights.

 

[Canuck4]

maybe cuz its ALL FUCKING FAKE!!!!

that could be the problem.......

Bwhahahaha
So true.

 

[DepressiveJuice]

isnt ox a c-17aa? might as well go with winny instead. but i would prefer EQ

 

[macho21]

the worlds most dangerous man WILL prevail tonight. what else is on the card tonight for me to waste my money and get a 90$ cable bill this month again? (olympia last month.....)

Damn, payperview charges $90 for his fight? I thought it was $50. That will be a nice fight, did anybody catch their interview yesterday on the sports show? Looks like I'll be watching it at the local sports bar.

 

[IronFist]

I was actually thinking about when he fought Frank, hes never fought Ken but Ken is even older and a worse fighter IMO. The rest of the fight card is pretty weak though, but there are always good fights.

I hope Ken mops his cocky ass up...There are some pretty good fights on the card. Liddell has some serious skill and is always fun to watch. One of our guys, Gil castillo is fighting Matt hughes for the middleweight title. Other than that I really don't care, Phillip Miller has turned out to be a good fighter eventhough the guy looks like a slob...

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

Damn, payperview charges $90 for his fight? I thought it was $50. That will be a nice fight, did anybody catch their interview yesterday on the sports show? Looks like I'll be watching it at the local sports bar.

haha. nah my adelphia bill is like 50-60 bucks a month and then the PPV's go for $20-50 depending on being UFC up to a tyson fight. but card looks decent, you never know with UFC...the best fights are usually NOT the "superfights".

 

[kbrkbr]

maybe cuz its ALL FUCKING FAKE!!!!

that could be the problem.......

Denkal and Loefler (oxafort) have both tested recently as being OVERDOSED for ox. The results were posted right here on this site by Ulter. So it's not all FUCKING FAKE. You just need to know where to shop. And how to read.

 

[Canuck4]

That is the exception..
From 20 different available anavars maybe 2-3 brands are legit and accurately dosed.
War found out the hard way with those 50mg chinese Vars.

Denkal and Loefler (oxafort) have both tested recently as being OVERDOSED for ox. The results were posted right here on this site by Ulter. So it's not all FUCKING FAKE. You just need to know where to shop. And how to read.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

Denkal and Loefler (oxafort) have both tested recently as being OVERDOSED for ox. The results were posted right here on this site by Ulter. So it's not all FUCKING FAKE. You just need to know where to shop. And how to read.

it was sort of a joke mr. fucknuts. but whatever....i have no need for another numbskull to argue with on elite. had my fill for about 1000000 years of that shit. but we can see who reads fastest, then whoever gets through the paragraph first slaps the other in the back of the head REALLY hard. FYI....i actually read REALLY quick.....show a little respect.......

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

That is the exception..
From 20 different available anavars maybe 2-3 brands are legit and accurately dosed.
War found out the hard way with those 50mg chinese Vars.

exactly.....but mr "never is on elite and probably never posts much" wouldn't have known that tidbit. but needed to throw in his 1/2 cents worth anyway. your calculations on the good vrs bad brands sounds accurate though. lol.

 

[clubhead]

if they weren't so risky to put up big money for something possibly fake this is all i would probably take...everybody i know that has taken them said they weren't real or underdosed....but the philly area sucks anyway

 

[BullGod]

DeprssiveJuice - Yes Oxandrolone is 17AA, but I think the thing is since it is highly anabolic - a relatively low MG dosage gets results (40-50 MG - Day). So in other words your liver only processes a small amount of the drug each day and is able to easily recoup.

To verify this look at results of AIDS patients given up to 40 MG ED of OX while also on AIDS Cocktails (confirmed liver toxic drugs). After 10 weeks of usage, only very few patiens drop out due to "slightly elevated liver values", and most of those are blaimed on the AIDS drugs NOT the OX.

I also read a few studies where children were given OX and after 10 weeks showed no signs of liver stress. Research for yourself.

Also on the UFC - Frank Vs. Tito was legendary. This should be a good fight, but Ken tends to gas and I think Tito will be to much for him. I have trained with Tito and he is like wrestling a boulder! Can't wait to see it anyway!

 

[FISHTALES]

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how have the results been from denkall ox? [/B]

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=183726

 

[kbrkbr]

it was sort of a joke mr. fucknuts. but whatever....i have no need for another numbskull to argue with on elite. had my fill for about 1000000 years of that shit. but we can see who reads fastest, then whoever gets through the paragraph first slaps the other in the back of the head REALLY hard. FYI....i actually read REALLY quick.....show a little respect.......

"mr. fucknuts" How very mature. How old are you? 16?

If you've had you fill of numbskulls to argue with, then change your attitude.

I'll show you respect when you deserve it.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

"mr. fucknuts" How very mature. How old are you? 16?

If you've had you fill of numbskulls to argue with, then change your attitude.

I'll show you respect when you deserve it.

come with respect and don't talk to me like i'm an idiot....and you won't get called names. very simple equation. change your shitty attitude. i'm 31, wanna come find out just to be sure? step on up.

 

[Canuck4]

"mr. fucknuts" How very mature. How old are you? 16?

If you've had you fill of numbskulls to argue with, then change your attitude.

I'll show you respect when you deserve it.

Dude your the one that came out as an asshole, so dont take it any further. You see all the posters above? They all got the joke and laughed. But you came out all defensive.

 

[BullGod]

WB are you ready? Kbrkbr Are you ready? Lets get it on!!

Sorry just watched UFC Tito Vs. Ken and see my above post - Yup I nailed it

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

WB are you ready? Kbrkbr Are you ready? Lets get it on!!

Sorry just watched UFC Tito Vs. Ken and see my above post - Yup I nailed it

I am ready! hell yeah....i LOVE to submission fight. stand up boxing....not too much. i am much too pretty for that. lol. my buddy shamrocks old ass lost...oh well. he is like 40 and stuff.....

 

[oeffler]

Oxymetholone aka Anadrol is my absolute favorite bodybuilding supplament.

I've seen studies where mice were given insaine amounts of anadrol (the human equivilant of 21.5 grams per day) and they had little or no liver damage after several weeks of this dose being administered every day.

I don't know anybody that has desroyed their liver with Anadrol and I feel that most of the people on the internet who tell you to stay the hell away from it are just cut and pasting stuff they've seen somewhere, and probably have never tried it themselves.

Look at the dosages of anadrol that they give to little kids for medical reasons - Those dosages are what most bodybuilders would call insainly high.

I love the way it makes me feel. Oxadrolone sounds like almost the perfect steroid so I know where you are coming from, but for me - nothing beats the instant results and the feeling I get off of a nice A-Bom regimine.