Why Use all these high doses?

[MrRTTB]

Godday

I look around this board and are stunned to see all these steroid dose recommendations. What happened to a low dose dbol cycle or a low test cycle for a first or second cycle. Personally I do not beleeve you have to increase the dose each cycle, well maybe to a point, but maybe people would get more out of the cycles they ran if they put more time into their diet, training and Rest. Maybe I'm wrong, you experts tell me please, why recommend several different steroids in one cycle at doses that will do more damage than good. I beleeve it's often a waste. We are now talking about the first cycles you run.

What happened to the 250mg Testosterone for 8-10 weeks? For most of us this is a lot. Instead people add another 250 and sometimes more. Steroids can be great, but they can also make a lot of damage. So, respect the "power" of the S-vitamine and start low.

A few years back someone told me to try a low dose of dbol, the dose was 10mg. I thought he didn't know shit and that 10mg would not do much at all. After a period of trying the 10mg in the morning cycle for PCT I decided to try it out. I used 10mg of Dbol for 100 days and checked my blood values, liver before during and after. I'm not saying that this cycle is recommended for everyone, but it worked great for me. My sleep improved, my apetite increased along with my strength and weight.

I think a lot of ones on this and other boards would get a lot bigger, stronger and maybe even feel better if they used lower doses and spent more money on solid foods and took more time off the gym between sessions.

Whats your thoughts?

 

[wootoom]

Ive heard alot of people mention just 250mg/ew..Theres usually solid advice on here.

 

[peligroso]

Well 250mg of test will work for a 5'7 170 lbs guy but the same dosage will work for a 6'0 230 guy?

 

[wootoom]

Well 250mg of test will work for a 5'7 170 lbs guy but the same dosage will work for a 6'0 230 guy?

Of course it will...adding test into any size body is gonna make an impact.

 

[mikebzt]

Different people are going to react differently. 250mg week could be dissapointing for some which is why people suggest you bump it up to 500mg week.

 

[peligroso]

Because thats one of the problems I see in the gym I know 17 or 18 years old that use 750 mf of test 400 of deca I know one guy huge motherfucker he is only 17 been using test since 16 now hes been on d bol 50mg for llike 10 weeks does not know shit about pct and he thinks steroids are like supplements that u take and if if you forget to take the next day is ok ... I try to teach thse guy about gyne about pct I almost got my ass kick jajajaj

 

[bottleneckblooz]

Personally, I think all the high dose standards started with UG labs. Many of them may be underdosed, so people think they need double the dose to get any effect. Also, the relatively low cost of UGL gear allows people to take more and more gear.

 

[Tatyana]

It is known that people respond differently to steroids, any drugs for that matter.

However, once all your receptors are saturated, they are saturated.

Mava has some papers on steroids up-regulating more receptors, but I really don't think that is going to be a particularly quick process.

Do you think that the use of high dose cycles are the same as all the newbs doing other things a bit too much when they first start bodybuilding......., too much training, too much bulking, too much cardio or calorie restriction when dieting?

 

[Bruce]

first off if you are running a ug or vet test you are goin to need a gram whereas if you had human grade you would only need 500mg. people usually have huge doses to make up for a lack of good diet and training. they think it will give them the build they want, but you can run 2grams of test a week with no results if you don't eat right. deca is the same, guys ramp it to 600mg ew because they don't eat enough and a calorie dependant steroid like deca requires food. once again if its ug deca it will not work well under 400-600, whereas human grade will kick ass at 200mg ew. this is all coming from experience. steroids allow you to train longer and harder and you need to pack in the food to make the mass and eat clean if you want to be lean. if you r an ecto and just bulking then by all means eat the whole kitchen. usually its to make up for other lacking areas. some guys who compete and have been using for over a decade i have no problem with running absurd doses. it is needed at certain points to attain a new level. but not to get to 200 lbs from 170. lol what is with all these newbs on here posting 170 lbs at 15% bf. learn to eat then maybe gear.

also 250mg ew is not going to do much for you. if you are a normal male its barely over what you are producing. that is a great dose if you are stacking eq with it so you have a good base of test. but alone 400-500mg is ideal. i find that 400mg ew of human test is perfect.

 

[peligroso]

Well the only thing I have to say is I love tatyana's body...lol...she is hot