Why The Hell Does Everyone Here Use Recreational Drugs?

[Frackal]

Look, I'm not REALLY one to talk, I have done a lot of drugs in my short life, but it was also during a very short period of my life, ie, 7-10th grade, other than that, I've been clean.


I realize live and let live, but it seems like every other week, either on the anabolic or chat board, there is a "What's Your Favorite Recreational Drug?"
"Who Here Loves To Freebase?" "Is it ok to take d-bol and PCP at the same time?."

The only exception I see is for the marijuana users really, the because if done correctly the sides are minimal..but for an Elite board full of so-called 'fitness buffs,' there are a lot of crappy physiques, and a lot of drug users.

And no, you may not compare AAS to recreational drugs, it is ludicrous and not even the same thing...

 

[theoak01]

i smoke weed but there is some things i would like to try,my reason,im young,i wont be able to do it when i am older because i will have respnsibilites and rec drugs wont be a part of my life

 

[Frackal]

PS- I believe that there are drugs such as (possibly) exstacy and whatever else that can POSSIBLY be used safely...but that's not really my point..I would bet anything that the rec. drug use per capita of this so-called fitness board is a lot higher than the general population..that is what confuses me...

 

[Frackal]

You know I'm gonna be smokin' your crack baby.

 

[Jimsbbc]

KC,

your avatar is absolutely revolting.

 

[Jimsbbc]

sorry, it's nothing personal. What happened to the lips????? That was the best.

 

[1bigpitbull]

Frack most of the people hear are pretty young and thinking there industructible I was the same way when I was young.I was A addict for 20 years lost both my best friends to over dose I myself have od 2x I'v only been sober for 6months and thats after 5 rehabs If I could have know that life could be so good sober I woulod have never tried anything.I'm not putting anybody down for using If I could use with out abusing I guess I still would but I can't so I guess to all live and learn.

 

[GinNJuice]

I don't use anything but gear.... oh,,.... an maybe some gin every once in a while

 

[Milhouse]

I went thru my twenties without doing shit, nothing, no booze drugs weed nothing.

Now I am almost 32 and single and you know something? You only live once so have fun, use but don't abuse, but have fun. And I can tell you that I have tried everything except heroin and that I buy nothing, and I don't wake up in the mornong craving my next crack fix, just does not happen, never has never will.

But then again drugs have always been far and few between but I do like to get ripped on occassion booze wise like right now. But when I am hammered and someone offfers me whatever drug I say yes, stupid yes, fun always.

Mostly weed is the drug of choice I encounter, the otheres once i a blue moon. Don't give a shit about crack or coke, I have done both but they don't make sense to me money wise for the buzz you get.

Beer, weed,acid, mushrooms and exctacy give you more bang for your buck however. I will stop tyoing little racked right now lol.

 

[Jimsbbc]

KC,


That is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better!!!! Too sexy for my (fill in the blank)

 

[Iron Thrower]

I can't speak from experience on the subject of drugs because I have never done marijuana, e, coke, whatever...I have never touched a drug in my life. I got drunk once last year for the first time and I hated it.

I don't understand why people would desire to do drugs in the first place. I mean, I right now, am going to the gym lifting and doing cardio hard every week and I am trying my best to eat clean. Why then would I want to sacrifice my body and my health by putting drugs into my body. How can a person turn down an ice cream sundae because of the fat/carb/sugar content and then go and smoke a joint or flood their body with alcohol that is shocking and disrupting their whole system?

Maybe I am naive, but I don't see how a person can be controlled by a drug. This is just me but I have better things to do on a friday night than go to a house, sit around, get drunk, spill shit all over the place, possibly puke on myself or do something else embarrising or worse go to drive home, when I shouldn't be driving and hit and kill a family or something. All for a good time? I don't think so. Not for me. I am just giving my personal opinion but I think Frackal said it best, how can a group of people who are supposodly so into "fitness" do drugs and consume alcohol like we hear about?

 

[The Varnsen]

I was wondering the same... There are guys here who use AS, use ecxtasy and drink alcohol in the weekend, smoke pot daily... Where are they gonna be 10 years from now? Then they rip on the fat guys... You may look healthier in the outside, but your inside (i´m not refering to the soul lol) is declining much faster...

 

[The Varnsen]

Actually these peeps are a bad example of bodybuilders... I´ve heard more than once people talking about the "disco bb´s" and etc...

 

[KAYNE]

FRACK---7TH THROUGH 10TH GRADE ISNT THAT SHORT OF A TIME MAN.....BESIDES, PEOPLE IN 7TH GRADE ARE ONLY AROUND 11 YEARS OLD. WERE YOU DOING DRUGS IN THE 7TH GRADE???

I DIDNT DO A DRUG UNTIL I WAS 21 YEARS OLD (I JUST MADE 23 LAST SAT). AND THE ONLY REASON I DID THAT WAS BECAUSE ME AND MY GIRL OF 5 YEARS HAD JUST BROKEN UP SO I DID A TAB TO MAKE ME HAPPY FOR A FEW HOURS. TO THIS DAY I HAVE NVR EVEN SMOKED A JOINT OR A CIGARETTE.

 

[trial0r]

kartchick, i know a doc that can help you with that mustache. oh by the way im clean other than AS

 

[Milhouse]

All this talk about fitness and health makes me want to puke all over myself.

I mean guys no offense but get real ok!!
You would be surprised what your so called icons of heath and fitness do on the side and I don't mean bodybuilders.

So some people do drugs and/or alcohol! Big fucking deal. Fuck even the so-called icons of the moral world like ministers priest and such get caught with their hands in the cookie jar!! Thats what being human os all about, accepting your vices and so called bad deeds for what they are.

Plus I can bet any person here who has never done any drugs cannot deny they have never had unsafe sex, had a one night stand or basically done anything in there lives yesterday pr today for that matter that wasn't questionable by society.

If you don't like drugs or alcohol thats fine all the power to you, but get off your high horses and stop judging the rest of us because he who cast the first stone usually has the most sin or something like that.

 

[KAYNE]

PEOPLE WHO USE ANABOLIC STEROIDS AND REC. DRUGS ARE BAD PEOPLE!!!


SHIT, I CANT FIND MY REDIJECTS!!!

 

[Jae]

I don't do drugs other than A.S. and performance related ones. I never do mind altering ones. It seems the vast majority on here do, surprisingly as this is a fitness board.

 

[delts2]

Milhouse is correct.

delts2

 

[WODIN]

Frackal I'm in your camp on the subject bro. I smoke weed maybe four, five times a year tops. I do understand though how and why people do use drugs to help the cover or avoid the issues of life. I've been down that road and would not go down it again ever.

 

[RyanH]

Whereever you go, whatever you do.......there you will still be..............

 

[Warik]

Thats what being human os all about

Precisely why people should avoid such things.

Plus I can bet any person here who has never done any drugs cannot deny they have never had unsafe sex, had a one night stand or basically done anything in there lives yesterday pr today for that matter that wasn't questionable by society.

I can.

-Warik

 

[Puc]

DON'T DO DRUGS BECAUSE THEY ARE BAD!!!!
DON'T DO DRUGS BECAUSE THEY ARE UNHEALTHY!!!!

It amazes me how a group of people who regularly debase societies uneducated view on steroids can so blindly follow the recreational drug propaganda...

I've got some questions that I would like answered.

1)What are the long-term negative effects of occasional use of the following substances:
a) Cocaine
b) Alcohol
c) MDMA
d) GHB
e) Ketamine
f) Nicotine
g) Caffeine
h) ephedrine

Please provide scientific data to back up your answers.

I have tried many substances in my rather short existence, some of which were undoubtedly harmful, while others were very benign in their long-term consequences. The one thing I have come to preach is this: If you are going to alter your body chemistry chemically, that is your decision, but for your own sake, make sure it is an INFORMED decision. If you are going to use, make sure you understand everything you can about what you are using and how it effects YOU. Do not listed to media or medical propaganda, go straight to the source. Analyze the research and understand the biochemistry. That is the only way...

...on a sidenote...
People are ignorant in general. They never stop to think and learn. The government understands that, the medical community understands that, that is why they are so capable of controlling us with propaganda. Of the recreational drug communities, the only one that seems to understand this is the pot smokers, they spew forth their own propaganda. If the crack smokers would start doing this within a couple years you would have lemmings spouting that "All drugs are bad, except crack" just like the minions who in this thread exclude marijuana from their diatribes...

 

[Puc]

I assume Warik has never taken caffeine, either?

How is the view from atop that pedestal, anyway?

 

[Puc]

Excuse my excessive bandwidth wasting, I just have a lot to say on this topic...

It really isn't paradoxical to have a BBER who is also a recreational drug user. BBers are concerned with how they LOOK, not their health in general.

If you found me a life extensionist who was also a meth addict, well, that would be something to make me go "hmmmmmm"

 

[METHYL MIKE]

because we all want kartchick, but seein her new sig drives me to smoke crack!!

 

[1bigpitbull]

Puc I'm not going to go in to this to much but like I mention earlier I used for close to 20 years so I know what I'm talking about .I'v abused every drug out there and I'm lucky I'm not dead.I could give you sciencetific fact for after 5 rehabs you learn alot but will just take some straight out easy stuff for the most of the stuff you mention X,coke,alchol,etc.ect any one of those drugs can kill you at any given time boom!just like that.Also it may not but do you want to take that chance.most people will and do.I use to myself all the time I would also like to point out that both my best friends are dead to over dose.Both very experince drug users but it happens your high youwant to get higher cuase it feels good and the next thing you know your dead.It only takes one time in A car when your drunk to get in A crash and die.Like I said I know from experince I'm not puting down the recerational user down I just want them to think about what I'm saying.

 

[Warik]

I assume Warik has never taken caffeine, either?

Oh dear, caffeine. That was sure a waste of my money that altered my mind and impaired my judgment. My whole family looked down on me and the educated members of society laughed in my face.

If you want to play the "Warik's evil past" game, at least find something "questionable by society," which is what I stated I have never done.

How is the view from atop that pedestal, anyway?

Quite pathetic. Sitting here on the 5th floor of the library looking down to the puny ants that walk along the road smoking their cigarettes and spouting their "yo dawgs" while worrying so much about the billions of assignments they need to complete in one night because of their inability to stay out of the clubs or put down the recreational drugs for 10 minutes and actually get some productive work done that will improve their lives puts a frown on my face.

Actually... no... it doesn't put a frown on my face. It puts a SMILE on my face because I know that I have escaped that fate. It puts a SMILE on my face because I know that just as I dominate them now, I will dominate them moreso 5, 10, 20 years to come.

Round 2, Puc. Give it your best shot.

-Warik

 

[tomcat]

All things in moderation..
Except those things that might put me in jail...

 

[JohnnyO]

The reason why rec drug use is higher here then the general population:

we have an open mind
we look good
we like to have fun

I don't make a habit of it, and go months without doing anything, but last time I partied I did X and K for the first time .. and will probably do it again (probably in August)

 

[JUSTINCREDBOL]

Hey a little rum or tequila a few times a month and a doobie several nights a week and I feel fine. fine. fine. umm what was I saying?

 

[_Outlaw]

Mostly Gear use only..But an occasional J is nice to help me unwhind from time to time..But it has to be the kind green for me to smoke it no south of the border dirt weed.Im luck though i live 2 hours from humbolt county

 

[YellowD]

Actually... no... it doesn't put a frown on my face. It puts a SMILE on my face because I know that I have escaped that fate. It puts a SMILE on my face because I know that just as I dominate them now, I will dominate them moreso 5, 10, 20 years to come.

Round 2, Puc. Give it your best shot.

-Warik

You are the only person here I would really like to kill (and you only live 2 hours away).

But anyway, drugs have always been a hottly fueded debate. I doubt anything said here will waver anyone's opinion one way or another. I could start popping off countless studies (or lack thereof), showing the relative safety or dangers of moderate usage of many drugs. What does that mean to the hardcore anti-druggy? "Blah, blah, blah". They don't want to hear numbers and studies, they love drug horror stories to scare little kids as they sleep at night. So, its difficult to debate about a point when people are packed so tightly behind their trenches. I've learned that it inevitably breaks down to ... "They are bad"... "Oh, no they're not".

But you would be surprised... no you would be shocked to learn how deeply drugs are rooted in our society. Everyone from blue collar workers, shirt and tie business men, the lowliest unemployed worker, to your average college student. I've seen it all... middle class american housewives addicted to Rx tranquilizers, occasional college partiers, and hardcore heroin computer programmers. Its as if people walk around with this nice anti-drug facade 24 hours a day, and then, in private, underneath the veil of secrecy, we discover the molding undergrowth of drug use. Its inescapable.

So, who are we to judge people by what they do in their freetime? As long as they aren't hurting anyone (but themselves as you claim), then there really are no victims to this crime. They are just enjoying life how they see fit. And yes, it is possible to live a healthy life and one with very moderate recreational drug indulgences simultaneously... there are thousands of people who are living proof of that.

 

[Frackal]

Puc: Give it up lol...that was a pretty poor argument, especially directed at me, who's seen firsthand what amphetamines, coke, acid, etc can do to a person.

Steroids are one thing, to compare them to X, cocaine, is stupid.

Deny it all you want, fool yourself all you want, but coke, crack, meth, fucking heroin whatever, is still a very toxic, risky substance to put in your system, and yeah, you can just OD and die right there with your tooter still stuck up your nose.

I am not a victim of 'governement' propaganda, I've seen it first hand for years.

Kayne: Well, I smoked weed in 7th grade, 8th-9th I did a lot more, 10th grade I still smoked and drank, but that's all...not really that severe.

 

[KAYNE]

FRACK: I WASNT KNOCKING YOU ARE ANYTHING FOR IT, I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I STARTED SELLING DRUGS (NVR DID THEM THOUGH) IN 7TH GRADE BUT MOSTLY TO KIDS A LITTLE OLDER. I SOLD THEM UNTIL ABOUT 3 YEARS AGO SO I'M NOT REALLY ONE TO TALK. I RECENTLY WISED UP WHEN MY BROTHER WENT TO JAIL THOUGH!!!

THE MONEY IS NOT WORTH MY FREEDOM. BUT IT SURE WAS A LOT OF MONEY!!!

 

[Puc]

Oh dear, caffeine. That was sure a waste of my money that altered my mind and impaired my judgment. My whole family looked down on me and the educated members of society laughed in my face.

If you want to play the "Warik's evil past" game, at least find something "questionable by society," which is what I stated I have never done.

Quite pathetic. Sitting here on the 5th floor of the library looking down to the puny ants that walk along the road smoking their cigarettes and spouting their "yo dawgs" while worrying so much about the billions of assignments they need to complete in one night because of their inability to stay out of the clubs or put down the recreational drugs for 10 minutes and actually get some productive work done that will improve their lives puts a frown on my face.

Actually... no... it doesn't put a frown on my face. It puts a SMILE on my face because I know that I have escaped that fate. It puts a SMILE on my face because I know that just as I dominate them now, I will dominate them moreso 5, 10, 20 years to come.

Round 2, Puc. Give it your best shot.

-Warik

Warik. I am not going to do this.

Personally, however, I find a night of dancing and GHB to be my release. The fact that I spend Friday or Saturday night doing so does not imply that you will somehow be able to dominate me or others like me.

It doesn't mean I spend less time doing what I love. It doesn't preclude me from succeeding in any endeavor I choose.

It simply means we have different ideals, which is okay.

I find release in a club, you find it on a message board. At the risk of sounding egalitarian, one is not superior to the other.

You believe your past times are more worthwhile than mine, which is why you pursue them. I disagree. You think what you do is better than what I do. Big deal.

Oh, and also, if you lived in Utah, caffeine would be frowned upon...

 

[Puc]

Puc: Give it up lol...that was a pretty poor argument, especially directed at me, who's seen firsthand what amphetamines, coke, acid, etc can do to a person.

Steroids are one thing, to compare them to X, cocaine, is stupid.

But, damn it Frackal, you've just made my argument for me. What "CAN" these drugs do to a person, a whole hell of a lot of damage. But, they do not have to. You are subscribing to the same logic the government uses to ban steroids. They "CAN" hurt you, so we shouldn't let anyone use them at all, even if they are educated on the matter.

Deny it all you want, fool yourself all you want, but coke, crack, meth, fucking heroin whatever, is still a very toxic, risky substance to put in your system, and yeah, you can just OD and die right there with your tooter still stuck up your nose.

Damn fucking straight. This is exactly why anyone who uses should understand exactly what they are getting themselves into.

And why do you insist that I am somehow deceiving myself? I understand exactly what I am talking about, because I have taken the time to find out.

Drugs fucked you up when you were in 8th grade. No shit, Sherlock. You were in 8th grade, for Christ's sake

I am not a victim of 'governement' propaganda, I've seen it first hand for years.

I wasn't implying that you were. I was implying you were a victim of the pot smokers propaganda. But, if I was wrong, I apologize...

BTW I know i cannot spell. I can't read, so it makes sense....

 

[Steelplate]

I would never, ever abuse drugs.. I love them, and in loving them, could never stand for any hurtful action towards them..


Steelplate

 

[Wraith]

Well I don't use rec drugs. I have been known to tie one on once in a blue moon when a lot of friends are together. Though if it weren't for random drug screening at my job, I would like to try working out on a little weed to see if I can take that mind - to - muscle connection to the level I have heard and read about.

 

[Puc]

Steelplate is now my hero

 

[MP5]

I am not into drugs either. I think it is a personality type that uses. I have smoked pot way back when, but I never got into it. I had friends that tried it at the same time and now they are buying $100 sacks and smoking 4-5 times a day. I am not into that shit. I broke up with a gf in the past because she was all wanting to try all these different drugs that her friends were into. Ex, meth, acid, speed, not to mention smoking weed all the time. If I am going to hurt my body, I would rather do some roids and atleast gain some muscle, and gear does not fry your brain.

 

[MR.?]

I also agree with Frackle. There is nothing to gain by using recreational drugs!

 

[Warik]

You are the only person here I would really like to kill (and you only live 2 hours away).

At last! I'm finally starting to see the results of my efforts.

As long as they aren't hurting anyone (but themselves as you claim), then there really are no victims to this crime. They are just enjoying life how they see fit.

That's the thing. See, drug use is a victimless crime. I believe that people should have the right to do whatever they please with their bodies as long as it does not infringe upon the rights of others.

Drug use is one of those "rights;" however, me calling people who choose to participate in such activities pathetic humans who I dominate now and will dominate moreso in the years to come is another one of those rights.

Recreational drug use is stupid and only amplifies the ability to recognize one's lack of intelligence. If knowing this does not bother you, then feel free to shoot, snort, and smoke whatever you want.

-Warik

 

[Gilbyag]

no thank you... none for me please.

 

[Warik]

Warik. I am not going to do this.

Good, because I don't want to either.

Personally, however, I find a night of dancing and GHB to be my release. The fact that I spend Friday or Saturday night doing so does not imply that you will somehow be able to dominate me or others like me.

It doesn't mean I spend less time doing what I love. It doesn't preclude me from succeeding in any endeavor I choose.

I wasn't speaking about you. I was speaking about the view from the supposed "pedestal." All I saw were the same people who I see struggling in all of my classes because of their self-destructive habits. Simply pointing that out.

I find release in a club, you find it on a message board. At the risk of sounding egalitarian, one is not superior to the other.

Not completely correct. I don't find release on a message board. I don't find release anywhere. I don't need to "release" myself from anything. If people focused on molding their reality to suit them as opposed to attempting to escape, or rather, "release" themselves from reality, they wouldn't "need" to fiddle with their silly drugs.

You believe your past times are more worthwhile than mine, which is why you pursue them. I disagree. You think what you do is better than what I do. Big deal.

Only time will tell.

Oh, and also, if you lived in Utah, caffeine would be frowned upon...

Really? That sucks.

-Warik

 

[1bigpitbull]

Puc here's A perfect example.On the board right now there is A girl wanting to know how to use K and people are giving her advice they have no idea how much she weighs is she taking any other meds all sorts of things that could kill her I'm sure all she wants to do is have A good time which is cool I understand that but she could easily end up dead .cause she has know idea what the hell she is doing

 

[Taps]

As corny as it sounds, there really is a difference between use and abuse. I've done my fair share of drugs, but I'm lucky; I don't have an addictive personality. I might do X once a year, or smoke a joint evey 4-5 months...but personally I think using everyday is insane, alhtough I do understand that some people are powerless over addiction. I like to smoke a cigarette every so often, and I also enjoy the occasional martini...but I have plenty of friends who are smoking 1/2 pack a day and _need_ 2-3 beers after work to wind down. If you wanna smoke crack everyday, go right ahead....it's your life.

I belive all drug laws should be abolished. They're really just a form of censorship (ie: you can't do this to yourself, because I don't agree with it), but chances are that'll never happen, at least not in the United States. Here in Canada, we're a little more civilized about such things, and I'd say there's a 80% chance pot will become legal here in the next 5 years.

t.

 

[satanic goatslayer]

I only enjoy absinthe, PCP, crack, heroin, and alcohol.

I believe these to be the keys to my longevity and will continue to use for the remainder of my life.

When people see me chicken-hopping and beating my head on the asphalt, sometimes they tell me to stop doing drugs.

What do they know?

 

[Puc]

Only time will tell.

Agreed.

Really? That sucks.

The Mormons have an issue with it...

Puc

 

[NCLifter]

moderation is key

I'm not a huge drug advocate, but if I'm going out to party, 9 times out of 10 I'm getting fucked up. The reason is simple, its fun as hell. You cant live forever, but you can have as much fun as possible while you are alive.

 

[1Mistake]

The main problem here is that the US has THE BIGGEST appitite for illegal drugs in the world!!! Who cares if its juice ,coke,X-whatever. It takes you away from some underlying problem(in general) Juice can kill your liver,same with booze,X could lead to Parkisons etc.. Control it not let it control you.BB is the MOST UNHEALTHY thing in the f'ing world!!! Quit being one way!!!

J
It does piss me off to see a post where people don't know shit about a drug and they give advice anyway