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Why is benzyl alcohol blaimed for pain so often?

chembeaker

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It seems that benzyl alcohol is blaimed for pain at injection sites more often than any other drug or excipient non medicinal in parenternal preparations but the claims are completely unfounded and not backed up by anything in the scientific literature. My only explanation is that benzyl alcohol SOUNDS ominous so it must be responsible for pain...it couldn't possibly be the fact that most UG steroid preparations for injection these days contain unrealistically high concentrations of low solubility drugs like testosterone propionate and boldenone undecyclenate.
Benzyl alcohol is a topical aneastetic like its close relative phenol, BA is commonly used to lessen the pain associated with novocaine injections prior to the onset of action of the lidocaine. Here is a excerpt from a document from pubsmed:

MESH Definitions

Benzyl Alcohol

A colorless liquid with a sharp burning taste and slight odor. It is used as a local anesthetic and to reduce pain associated with LIDOCAINE injection. Also, it is used in the manufacture of other benzyl compounds, as a pharmaceutic aid, and in perfumery and flavoring


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The use of benzyl benzoate and oils and solvents that greatly increase the solubility of the raw materials are much more likely to cause pain indirectly as many of them are quickly absorbed by the lymphatic system or surrounding tissues faster than the drugs or alternatively they are broken down or metabolized to their parts thus no longer acting as effective solvents or possibly the breakdown products could cause pain, main point being that this phenomena would result in undissolved raw materials=pain.
If you look at benzyl benzoate or ethyl oleate for instance a hydrolysis would yeild an organic acid , and hydrolysis is very common in the human body , the acid would have a ph much lower than physiological ph and that would also cause pain.

the strongest argument i think with respect to this topic is that legit pharmaceutical companies never used these witch doctor concoctions and potions of umpteen components to dissolve steroids and keep them dissolved in the bottle..becuase they know they don't stay dissolved in the body. they most commonly use 5% ba and one of sesame, poppyseed or grapeseed oil. some even go as high as 9% ba. they just dissolve what it will take comfortably and thats that, usually 50mgml for tp or bu and even sustanon by organon is 9%ba.
 
cause it hurts?

I think its a topical anesthetic but hurts when it is injected. Not 100% but pretty sure that is the case.
 
all I know is inject 500mg of sustanon into your delt and see what happens after. obviously it has to be the BA. what else could it be that causes the excruciating pain?
Thats a good point Steve, Ive never thought of that however makes sense. Where is Hayez or Nelson when you need them?
 
all I know is inject 500mg of sustanon into your delt and see what happens after. obviously it has to be the BA. what else could it be that causes the excruciating pain?

Wrong. It's the hormones crystallizing in your deltoid.
 
Whats up stranger? Please explain the hormone crystallizing please. Thanks UA

He's actually not wrong per say. There's many factors for injection pain - Ester type (short versus long), coupled with concentration and the solvents used, then injection methodology and finally virgin muscle.

Shorter esters have a tendency crystallize more - think prop, NPP, tren ace. That crystallization is painful - like shards shooting through your muscle. This is one of the benefits of Ethyl Oleate in short esters; it's a great solvent, prevents crystallization but will actually slightly lower the absorption rate.

High concentration gear will crystallize more obviously. The test prop content of 500mg/ml sustanon is most likely the culprit.
 
He's actually not wrong per say. There's many factors for injection pain - Ester type (short versus long), coupled with concentration and the solvents used, then injection methodology and finally virgin muscle.

Shorter esters have a tendency crystallize more - think prop, NPP, tren ace. That crystallization is painful - like shards shooting through your muscle. This is one of the benefits of Ethyl Oleate in short esters; it's a great solvent, prevents crystallization but will actually slightly lower the absorption rate.

High concentration gear will crystallize more obviously. The test prop content of 500mg/ml sustanon is most likely the culprit.

Thats probably why I knot up sometimes after my Tren A inject? Makes sense. What can be done UA to prevent the pain and swelling associated with Tren A and especially Prop. Hell , I will never run prop again , after I injected , I thought somebody had shot me with a 22 gun in the glute it hurt so bad. lololol
 
Thats probably why I knot up sometimes after my Tren A inject? Makes sense. What can be done UA to prevent the pain and swelling associated with Tren A and especially Prop. Hell , I will never run prop again , after I injected , I thought somebody had shot me with a 22 gun in the glute it hurt so bad. lololol

You'll have to cut it with oil or something. 10% Benzyl Salicylate and oil would be a good way to cut it to reduce pain. Cut it with something like EQ would be another good way. Always heat up the gear slightly too, that helps a lot.

Prop gets painful, but nothings ever hut me as bad as NPP. If its made with 100% EO as carrier oil that helps - EO and its effects on humans has always been questionable though.
 
Whats up stranger? Please explain the hormone crystallizing please. Thanks UA

when overdosed hormones such as sustanon 250 (not an overdose for low melting point hormones like enanthate but it is overdosed in the low molecular weight ones) are dissolved into vegetable oils it is the benzyl alcohol that holds that fine equilibrium in the vial between dissolved and undissolved. the ba's purpose, its declared purpose is to keep it sterile but the undeclared purpose is to keep the high doses of hormone dissolved in the oil. ba is recognized as a foreign material in the body and therefore will either be picked up by the lymphatic system for removal or depending on its solubility coefficient in cell membranes it could be that it is taken up into cells faster than the oil or the hormone. So, now the oil is left with a dose of hormone it cannot dissolve and the hormone crashes out to its powder form inside the body.

a topical anaestetic is one that has an effect directly on the tissue it is in contact with provided it has access to mucousal membranes or the blood stream for distribution to surrounding tissues/cells, some can actually exhibit some response by direct application to the skin via the pores in the epidermis. examples of topical ana's are benzyl alcohol, clove oil, benzocaine, phenol, cocaine, procaine, lidocaine, novocaine. Novocaine is injected into the gums by dentists to freeze them.
general ana's would be halothanes, floronated hydrocarbons, nitrous oxide, phencyclidine PCP, ketamine, diprivan propafol, these act on the central nervous system and have no effect when applied to the skin or mucousal membrane with the exception of some that can utilize that route to get in the bloodstream to reach the cns but exhibit no effect on the surrounding tissue.
 
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