Why does Test Enanthate 400 cause so much PIP compared to Test Cyp?

[Asdf124]

I feel like i have a charlie horse on my quad from the injection. I just used a 29gauge insulin needle, I guarentee I got into the muscle... I havent used this quad before though....

Why does the Test E 400 cause so much more PIP than Test Cyp?

Would it help if I dilute it with some oil?

 

[doejohn]

Higher concentration test often gives more pip, it could be a different carrier oil than what you've used before that you don't tolerate well, OR you did not get deep enough into the muscle. A 29g slin pin sounds a bit on the short end for the quad.

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[doejohn]

Diluting it would help if it's due to the higher concentration.

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[Fella Finn]

The concentration level is far too high. You think you are getting more for your money that way but you are really causing yourself far more pain and issue and that's why you do not see concentrations of testosterone that high used often

 

[the_alcatraz]

I feel like i have a charlie horse on my quad from the injection. I just used a 29gauge insulin needle, I guarentee I got into the muscle... I havent used this quad before though....

Why does the Test E 400 cause so much more PIP than Test Cyp?

Would it help if I dilute it with some oil?

Test E 400 is high concentration thats why

you should use 1/2 ml maximum in the glute and heat up the gear before you use it, warm up with a needle on top in water (small pan with water), not boil just hot

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[JasonPriest]

high concentration yes

try 250

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro suck it up and be a man

 

[ceo]

bros start with heating up the vial and doing 1/4 ML every few days and rotate injection sites and LOG your cycle on EF please

 

[ROIDDERS]

I heat up my test 400 in a pan with water low heat and NEVER boil
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[Quadsweep]

high concentration steroids always cause this
heat it up and split the doses into 1/4 ML per time
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[Ulter]

that is normal for T400 I remember stuff from mexico back in the day I couldnt walk lol
better use 1/4 per time
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[e2]

T400 pain fact is #1 but low ML to inject try 1/4 ml per time and LOG cycle asap

 

[2Thick]

Testosterone 400 is my favorite I pin around 1/2 ml but I do heat up the vial every time
can we see your Log journal please?

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

T400 1/4 ml is the start dose not full 1ML
LOG ASAP

 

[Monstro]

I am an advanced user and I only do 1 ml T400 eod max due to pain and also heating up the vial a bit every time
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[dylangemelli]

As ive said now for a decade, higher concentrations dont mean you just get the most for your money because the "most" is not defined as what everyone thinks.. you may get more total test mg for mg out of it, but what exactly is the point when you are absolutely miserable from the the pain that goes with it? take it as a lesson learned and stick with normal concentration levels where you see 200-250 per cc or with propionate, 100 per cc... equipoise is one of the very few you can get away with higher concentrations and not get pip but its generally best to stick with the standard type concentration levels...

 

[SteveMobsterG]

I feel like i have a charlie horse on my quad from the injection. I just used a 29gauge insulin needle, I guarentee I got into the muscle... I havent used this quad before though....

Why does the Test E 400 cause so much more PIP than Test Cyp?

Would it help if I dilute it with some oil?

It's well known that anything over 300mg a ml often causes PIP

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

you can split the doses to avoid pip......

 

[RoySimpson]

I would lower dose to avoid pip. Just heat up vial next time!

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

It is due to the high concentration. You can get some GSO and water it down a bit.