Why does deca cause bloat?

[Mkingo]

Hi gents,

First, apologies if this is a stupid question.

I would like to know why deca durabolin causes bloat. Generally, as I understand it, bloat or water retention is associated with aromatising compounds, such as test or dianabol. The increased water retention is associated with increased levels of estrogen, and is one of the many reason we should use a good AI when we cycle these highly aromatising compounds.

I believe deca however doesn't aromatise nearly as much as as the other compounds I have mentioned. I have read in some places that deca aromatises at only 20% of the rate of testosterone. Other material I've read have said that deca doesn't aromatise at all.

In spite of this, it is pretty much universally accepted that deca increases water retention and causes bloat. If this is not due to aromatisation, then why does this occur, and what, if anything, can we do about it?
Thanks

 

[Ace4]

good post, i'm very curious as to why as well

 

[Extra_Strong]

The thing about reading most of the info about AAS is it is mostly an average. Also you don't know what they were eating. estrogen is a big part. But the BLOAT also is Carbs related most all aas bloat can be controlled by diet. If you have a clean diet you wont bloat much an this goes with gyno and acne.

 

[Redfield11]

Shouldn't matter. Deca only cycles are stupid. You take Deca with Test so your dick doesn't drop off - and test in high doses causes water retention. As does Dianabol, which is frequently used with both. So the bloat in most part is going to be at the hands of those two.

Deca stimulates the progesterone receptor; side effect of that is water retention. One of the positives of Deca are its joint-relieving properties. It does this in part through water retention, in a fairly similar way to creatine. Hence why it 'retains water'. But I'm pretty sure it's a misconception. When people claim that deca bloats you, they're probably referring to the deca, dbol, test cycle. Although because of the stimulation of progesterone, it opens the door to water retention.

Ultimately, if you eat clean, use proper AI's and anti-progesterone drugs then bloat won't be an issue.

But what do I know. I'm not a doctor - nor do I (or anyone else on this site) understand every single chemical reaction that takes place in the body when you take a drug. Everyone reacts differently, so it's impossible to give a definitive answer.

 

[Ace4]

Shouldn't matter. Deca only cycles are stupid. You take Deca with Test so your dick doesn't drop off - and test in high doses causes water retention. As does Dianabol, which is frequently used with both. So the bloat in most part is going to be at the hands of those two.

Deca stimulates the progesterone receptor; side effect of that is water retention. One of the positives of Deca are its joint-relieving properties. It does this in part through water retention, in a fairly similar way to creatine. Hence why it 'retains water'. But I'm pretty sure it's a misconception. When people claim that deca bloats you, they're probably referring to the deca, dbol, test cycle. Although because of the stimulation of progesterone, it opens the door to water retention.

Ultimately, if you eat clean, use proper AI's and anti-progesterone drugs then bloat won't be an issue.

But what do I know. I'm not a doctor - nor do I (or anyone else on this site) understand every single chemical reaction that takes place in the body when you take a drug. Everyone reacts differently, so it's impossible to give a definitive answer.

what is a high dose for test?

 

[Corpsegrinder]

Hi gents,

First, apologies if this is a stupid question.

I would like to know why deca durabolin causes bloat. Generally, as I understand it, bloat or water retention is associated with aromatising compounds, such as test or dianabol. The increased water retention is associated with increased levels of estrogen, and is one of the many reason we should use a good AI when we cycle these highly aromatising compounds.

I believe deca however doesn't aromatise nearly as much as as the other compounds I have mentioned. I have read in some places that deca aromatises at only 20% of the rate of testosterone. Other material I've read have said that deca doesn't aromatise at all.

In spite of this, it is pretty much universally accepted that deca increases water retention and causes bloat. If this is not due to aromatisation, then why does this occur, and what, if anything, can we do about it?
Thanks

Arnold took low dbol and low Deca, had an absurdly clean diet and never was bloated.

That should answer your question.