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Why do you juice?

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When I first came to this board--being the rube I am--I thought: oh cool! a board for pain junkees and gym rats--excellent! My people!

I still thought that steroids were only for Svetlana and Natascha and their hairy-chested comrades on the Rumanian luge team. I had ZERO idea non-fascist-ruled people used. (Now I look around in my gym and see telltale signs among sooooo many of the guys. Weird.)

But here's the thing: Um... why? I understand why the powerlifters do--their sport requires it and their sport is their passion.

But for those of you who just want to look good to reap more/better-quality pussy--I just don't get it.

Seems dysfunctional. And humility and lack of vanity is WAAAY sexier than freakish hypertrophy anyway.
 
Because the eyebrow guy on Lifetime at 3am tells me that juice will make me live longer.

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LMAO! Look at the name of the image :D
 
The goal here is to be a freak... to be gigantic. To be able to live among the Greek gods on Olympus...

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Because I do a ton of cardio six days a week and I still want to be a lifter. There's no way I could be a capable fighter and a bodybuilder without it. Not to mention the dudes I fight are twice as big as me and are geared up hard.

PsychoSkitz:FRlol: :FRlol:
 
buksoon said:
When I first came to this board--being the rube I am--I thought: oh cool! a board for pain junkees and gym rats--excellent! My people!

Seems dysfunctional. And humility and lack of vanity is WAAAY sexier than freakish hypertrophy anyway.
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well the first line still applies to most here regardless of what they munch for breakfast

and one thing ive learnt on these boards is not all steroid users are assholes. just some of them ;) .......just because a guy is big doesnt necessarily mean he's a twit, dats just stereotyping innit?

also while you clearly have the sense of mind and intelligence to realise a big built asshole is still an asshole and will treat you like shit, there are a HELL of a lot of women that dont....

also another thng ive learnt/seen here is the effects of responsible roid use, while the health aspets are always up for debate the image in my mind of some dude with muscles coming out of his muscles and not being able to walk 2 feet without passing out isn;t what i have now.

im not flaming here btw, i dont even use any supplements apart from hemp oil and protein....but im just callin it like i see it
 
Pussy. What can I say? 170 pound guy pulls much more, and much higher quality pussy than a 130 pounder. Believe me, it's not bullshit. About a month into my first cycle... BAM... chics... All over the place. Pullin' pussy like it's free. It's a HUGE difference.
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danielson said:


also while you clearly have the sense of mind and intelligence to realise a big built asshole is still an asshole and will treat you like shit, there are a HELL of a lot of women that dont....
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Ooh, sexy! If I was a guy I'd say: get me one of those women who lack "sense of mind and intelligence!" {sarcasm} You guys are incomprehensible to me.

Men and women, women and men ... it will never work.
 
Citruscide said:
The goal here is to be a freak... to be gigantic. To be able to live among the Greek gods on Olympus...

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Greek gods you say? Ever here of Narcissus? That guy in love with his own reflection, his own physicality?

The sexiest Greek god (well, he wasn't a god I don't think) was David as represented by Michaelangelo. Totally NATURAL physique--not very large at all.

But, to each his own I guess.
 
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buksoon said:


Ooh, sexy! If I was a guy I'd say: get me one of those women who lack "sense of mind and intelligence!" {sarcasm} You guys are incomprehensible to me.

Men and women, women and men ... it will never work.
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uhhhh.....:confused:

are you saying i could find a woman who has sense of mind and intelligence if i really wanted to, or are you saying i secretely desire bitches? at my age group (19) ive only met a few who i think are sensible and intelligent and id bang em all :D
 
Crazier: It ain't the quantity, it's the QUALITY.

Well I guess that holds true once you're over 30 and realize exactly how far the road ahead of you stretches.

Besides, i hear most girls prefer a nice smile and a good sense of humor.:D
 
ah yes david... he also had big hands.. well, he was proportioned to account for the angle of the viewer.

and i'd bang you too danielson.. hottie :D
 
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and i'd bang you too danielson.. hottie :D
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my weiners big, but the length of the atlantic is pushing it :D
 
No, I agree with you Babydoc. I haven't done 'em in about 4 months, and am not sure if I will take 'em again. I was just explaining why I chose to use. It helped me gain 35 pounds. Now that I'm bigger, pussy is easier. And, I'm not even saying I am big. A lot of you guys would dwarf me, but can you take a "man" that weighs 130 pounds seriously???

I also know that it's more about the quality, rather than quantity.
I've had fun, I've gotten to pimp my bitches, I still like random pussy encounters, but a fuck friend is better, less scary, and you get more freaky together after a while...but a wife would be best.

And, the quality of pussy is better when you have guns. It's an easy in. Girls want to talk to you. Rather than being Joe Blow standing in the bar with his guy friends being a wallflower... wondering why his new Kenneth Cole shoes aren't pulling him any pussy... :rolleyes:

I don't have that hard mean vascular look like I did over the summer... but I can handle that, so long as I stay over 160+.
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thebabydoc said:
Besides, i hear most girls prefer a nice smile and a good sense of humor.:D
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Sorry guys he's right!
A good bod on a nice guy beats a great bod on an asshole!

kel :rolleyes:
 
buksoon said:

But for those of you who just want to look good to reap more/better-quality pussy--I just don't get it.

Seems dysfunctional. And humility and lack of vanity is WAAAY sexier than freakish hypertrophy anyway.
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Are you kidding? Guys go to law school and med school so they can reap more/better quality pussy. They drive BMWs and wear $1500 suits for the same reason. Guess why the singles are lifting weights? Everybody knows that cardio is far better for your health.

Why do women get boob jobs? Surgery is more dangerous than roids.

Our sex drive makes the world go around. I would walk around the world to be with the right girl for long time. Roids are a small price to pay really.

We do roids because it helps a LOT with a LOT of women. It is their fault;) Many roiders are gay but they have the same reasons.

Freakish hypertrophy isn't needed...thats an extreme. Buksoon...you are rare. What percentage of attractive, 28 year old women are virgins anyway? Humility and lack of vanity will attract a few modern women but not a fraction as much as a buff body and supreme confidence.

I learned the hard way that what women say they want and what they go for have little correlation. I've had more action this year than the past 5 years put together. Gee...I wonder why.:)
 
I am a woman and I can't say that I haven't juiced in the past because I have. It has been about a year since but I will do it again. I want to do my first bodybuilding competition next year and they will help me. If you are going to compete in a regular contest, not natural, it is pretty much a must. I train very hard but I will train and compete to win. I love the feeling I get from juicing and as long as I am careful and don't look like a man I will do it again. As for men, I love big, muscular men but I have also been with a big, muscular asshole in the past and I would rather not do that again. I have also been with the nicest man that I've ever met and he wasn't so huge and he juiced. I think it depends on the particular mans personality if he can handle it or not. To end, most men feel it is necessary to get them where they want to be and I don't mind it as long as it doesn't affect their temper, etc. But if you are only doing it to get women then you should probably think again because you will most likely catch something that you don't want in the end. Everyone be careful in what ever they do.....and keep growing I say.
 
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Test boy said:
Why do women get boob jobs? Surgery is more dangerous than roids.
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Actually, I think i disagree with that statement. Plus, the gains from surgery tend to be permanent.
Guys go to law school and med school so they can reap more/better quality pussy. They drive BMWs and wear $1500 suits for the same reason. Guess why the singles are lifting weights? Everybody knows that cardio is far better for your health.
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The same also holds for this, these gains- from going to med school and law school, etc... tend to be permanent. And I've been both places (in shape and in BMW's and $1,500 suits) and truth is, you don't really expect that any woman you land BECAUSE of any of these is gonna be worth keeping, do you? I'm not saying that you shouldn't aspire to be in great shape, but, unless you're competing or make your living on what kind of shape you're in, steroids really are not worth the cost, trouble, and risk. Were you aware that most male personal trainers and actors/models above 25 years of age have had abdominal lipo? I guess they thought that was easier than steroids.

Yes, it may be easier to meet and talk to more women and therefore give you a better chance of finding the right one, but you're more likely to find "the right one" doing what you enjoy because chances are the women you meet in those situations enjoy the same things and have more in common with you. Plus, you know how men think, even if you're with the wrong one, if the p*ssy is good, it takes a long time for head#1 to convince head#2 what the real deal is. Do what you do for yourself, NOT for anyone else, woman or otherwise, that is what will ultimately make you happiest in the long run.
 
Not surprised to see a doc think that surgery is safer than roids.

I've logged some time in hospitals. Extremely dangerous place to be. I had a best friend who is a M.D. He regaled me with horror stories for years. I've seen a few myself.
 
Test boy said:
Not surprised to see a doc think that surgery is safer than roids.

I've logged some time in hospitals. Extremely dangerous place to be. I had a best friend who is a M.D. He regaled me with horror stories for years. I've seen a few myself.
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1. We're not talking about major abdominal/intraperitoneal surgery here, breast augment and lipo were the ones discussed. And if you think that 'roids are in any way safer than elective surgery...

By the way, most of these procedures are done in outpatient facilities, sometimes even in doctor's offices, NOT in "hospitals." Because they are aesthetic procedures, greater precautions are often taken. Yes, complications occur, but not all gear is legit either and it's harder to pass off a fake plastic surgeon than fake gear.

Once again, it comes to a question of Risks/Benefits/and ALTERNATIVES.
I could regale you with these little items used to counsel patients PRIOR to surgery but I'm sure your friend told you all about them. Have you ever been counseled regarding ALL the Risks/Benefits/and alternatives of steroid use?

Don't get me wrong, to each their own, like tattoos and piercings. But when the use of steroids results in other medical problems that the medical community and the rest of society has to pay for, or when little things like "steroid rage" occur nightly in many clubs, maybe they're not quite so wonderful.

definitely MY .02...
 
I thought most women thought big muscle guys are unattractive.

Isn't the model look for guys 'in' now?

Among gay men, big muscle is a definite plus...not sure for straight ones.
 
I JUICE EVERY MORNING. GOTS TO HAVE MY VITAMIN C. STRAIGHT FROM FLORIDA.


KAYNE
 
buksoon said:
When I first came to this board--being the rube I am--I thought: oh cool! a board for pain junkees and gym rats--excellent! My people!

I still thought that steroids were only for Svetlana and Natascha and their hairy-chested comrades on the Rumanian luge team. I had ZERO idea non-fascist-ruled people used. (Now I look around in my gym and see telltale signs among sooooo many of the guys. Weird.)

But here's the thing: Um... why? I understand why the powerlifters do--their sport requires it and their sport is their passion.

But for those of you who just want to look good to reap more/better-quality pussy--I just don't get it.

Seems dysfunctional. And humility and lack of vanity is WAAAY sexier than freakish hypertrophy anyway.
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Buksoon, you drive me fucking crazy sometimes. Obviously by your above statement; "steroids were only for Svetlana and Natascha and their hairy-chested comrades on the Rumanian luge team" you haven't a clue about them.

You seem to be a bit of an idealist/wistful thinker which is fine, but dont' fucking tell me that to the majority of women, lack of vanity is more attractive than a handsome man with muscles...ask triple V or kartchick, supergirl or anyone else who's seen my pics in the members forum if they'd prefer me, or Johnny Fatass in the local McDonald's line...sounds vain? Yeah but I dont give a fuck. I take pride in the way I look and guess what? Other people do too, it is a proven fact that people who LOOK better, and have MORE self confidence do FAR better in life than their fat, 'non-attractive' counterparts...

And uh, I dont do this for women only, far from it. I do it because I love the feel of cold steel in my hands, the pressure of 2 105 lb dumbells pressing against my thighs as I'm psyching myself up on the bench, the adrenaline rush as I fall backwards, simultaneously pushing my legs against the floor and the steel into the air, the satisfaction of hearing them crashing to the floor after my final rep...that's the real shit right there.

I juice because I have weighed the risks/benefits, and I feel it is worth it. I have and will be conservative in my cycles, I use products to protect my liver, my prostate and hairline, my joints, etc...

Juice helped to heal my back. Without it I would still be writhing in pain every night, which I was for almost a year before I started my first cycle, which greatly accelerated my healing.

I am off-cycle now, getting ready to start my second, I rely on moderate dosages, and a perfect and intense training and diet routine, I was on for 2.5 months, I've been off for almost 6 since then, very safe.

Ever hear of testosterone replacement therapy? That is exactly the same compound I am taking in slightly higher dosages, for accute periods of time for safety reasons.

Many experienced juicers, people like E2, ulter, etc.. have said that the vast majority those who use anabolics intelligently, conservatively, and carefully, will live longer, healthier lives because of it.

Do you understand?
 
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KEL said:

Sorry guys he's right!
A good bod on a nice guy beats a great bod on an asshole!

kel :rolleyes:
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Hey Frackal, did you not know that woman dig the nice, soft, "in touch with his feelings" guy!
Yeah Right!!! Thats why all the hot babes are with the sensitive geeks.

I juice because it is what I want to do. I think I started because I wanted to be big. Ya know, the big that people say excuse me and get the hell outta your way BIG! It is not necessarily for the women, though it helps.

And whoever said that women are not attracted to muscles is the same fool that believes penis size doesn't matter.
 
Buksoon, I seriously thought you were smarter than that....

Your statement wreaks of ignorance...

Top three reasons why men use AAS:

1. Looks
2. Sports
3. Medical reasons

Personally, I use AAS to improve my sports abilities.
I don't use them for looks because I've always been a
mesomorph and have always been muscular.
However, in competitive sports, AAS use is preety much
necessary to maintain your standard(As compared to
other comp. players standrads)

However, I don't fault people for using them just for looks
as long as they use them responsibly. Frackal said
it quite well; Its all about what makes you happy.

And, I'm not "massive"; I'm only 187lbs 5.5% at 5"9

Fonz
 
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Frackal said:


Buksoon, you drive me fucking crazy sometimes.
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Oh my god, 'cause like I totally thought we were BFF!! I was hoping to the treasurer or secretary of B.I.T.C.H. actually....

Regarding what you said about the thrill of cold steel in your hands, you realize you can do that without steroids? I didn't ask why you push yourself to the max. That I understand.

About women thinking huge guys are hot? The women on THIS board, sure. But among my female friends (myself included), I like a skinny man! Gimme a skinny guy who's funny and as sin and humble... that's all!!

Not that I can't be FRIENDS with big guys (to all my Elite friends who might take offense--please don't!!!), it's just preference.
 
Fonz said:
However, in competitive sports, AAS use is preety much
necessary to maintain your standard(As compared to
other comp. players standrads)
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That's why I exempted them from this question. Guys like B Fold. His sport is his passion and that's WONDERFUL, and steroids are just a requirement there, it seems.
 
Fonz said:


And, I'm not "massive"; I'm only 187lbs 5.5% at 5"9
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I guess what I'm saying is this: You know how there are certain things about a person that automatically make them someone you'd never find sexually attractive?

Like if they smoked, for instance. It's just a deal-breaker?

I don't know what my "perfect guy" will be like, but he won't know to the percentage point his body fat. If you ask him if he's a mesomorph or ectomorph he might look at you funny and say: "Uh, I'm Southern Baptist."

You know what I mean?
 
What makes you think my sport is not my passion?

What makes you think that making myself happy as possible is not my goal?

I juice because I have goals that are otherwise unachievable.

If you don't like muscular guys, fine. I don't like women who don't like muscular guys. Not too concerned there.

By the way, have you ever HAD a muscular guy? Had a guy with hard pecs, rippling abs and bulging biceps?

What annoys me the most about this post is the naive ignorance...you know nothing about steroids obviously.

So I'll tell you what, do some research, open your eyes and learn a bit, then come back...don't come on a pro-steroid board asking ignorant questions about steroids.

Another thing I find offensive is you seem to assume that because 'we' have muscles we are not necessarily funny or humble....

I'll tell you what, I am very kind to people in real life, (ask kartchick), I never snub anyone, never pretend I am better than them.

I also have a sense of humor too, and I have a six pack and 17 inch arms...sounds a little better than a funny humble guy with a six pack of beer and 17% bodyfat doesn't it?

By the way, what does "BFF" mean?
 
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By the way, what does "BFF" mean?
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Best Friends Forever. High-schoolese. That's why I said "like, totally" So ... we're not?

About why would I ask these questions on a pro-AS board. Dur, where else? I'm gonna ask "why do you juice?" on a natural board?
 
Fair enough Buksoon....

However, one requirement for me to be attracted to any female
is intelligence. I really do not like females with a VERY
limited amount of knowledge.

You just can't bloody talk to them in a civilized fashion.
Your conversation always revolves around 1-2 topics,
which is plain boooooooring......

And one of them always tends to be how plastered she
got the weekend before......

Frankly, (from your post) somebody would have to be pretty
DUMB in not knowing what Bodyfat% is, don't you think???

Actually, when I think about it, I've only actually met half-a dozen
women who actually had the curiosity to be "cultured" in terms
of acquired knowledge.

It really is funny in a way, I ALWAYS get judged on my
physical appearance. For some reason that evades me,
people equate big muscles=dumb guy....HAHA
Then I start to talk and they all shut up............thats justice for you.

NOTHING, and I do mean NOTHING irritates me more than
people pre-judging you based on appearance.
Most people are just plain JEALOUS because they don't
UNDERSTAND what you do, AND don't have the discipline/
will-power to change their own ways.

Fact is, MOST people will try to alienate what they don't
understand.


Ok, end of rant......... :)

Fonz
 
I lift weights for the chics? Don't we all?

B True
 
I didn't say you couldn't ask the question, but you could have found your answer without asking it. Also, dont expect not to get flamed when asking your answer in a generally negative way, rather than an open-minded one...

Btw again, you did not answer my question. Have you ever HAD a big/muscular, attractive, funny, humble man before?

You ARE saying you prefer a small man who is not in shape to a big man who is...somehow I do not believe you.
 
Buk

Hi Buk ,
been a little while...sadly.
I just started my first cycle on Wednesday , I wasn't bad before 220 and 15% , but y'know I'm from the country - when I look in a field I see a bull and animal covered in muscle that screams masculinity and a lot of happy cows - happy to have that bull for themselves.
I would like to be able to give that same sense of satisfaction to my girl/wife , I want her to lack for nothing. I don't wear tight clothing (which is becoming a problem - finding it I mean) but as Test Boy's very intelligent and honest post points out - men look desperately for approval from women (listen to L. Cohen). Nothing else is even remotely as important in our lives. Not every woman is like you , not everyone is as balanced and unselfish , many are scum really I think ... which is why you'll make someone an excellent partner (I'm surprised you're not beatin em off with a stick actually).
 
You mean people use gear to hit 170lb?????!!!!!

Just about anybody could do that just by eating more and training properly.


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Pussy. What can I say? 170 pound guy pulls much more, and much higher quality pussy than a 130 pounder. Believe me, it's not bullshit. About a month into my first cycle... BAM... chics... All over the place. Pullin' pussy like it's free. It's a HUGE difference.
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Buksoon,
I ask myself this one all of the time......especially when I see a "hardcore" 170lb juicer down at the gym. I can see why after several years of hard work and some serious gains, a bodybuilder might want to use in order to reach their goals. I understand powerlifters/olympic lifters/strongman competitors doing it just so that they can be competitive.

I sure as hell dont understand why people want to juice just so they can get more girls. That is truly pathetic. How often do people post saying that they saw thjis gorgeous woman with a fat/ugly man?? It comes up quite often. The reason that man got the girl is either that he has alot of money, or, he has a personality. So if you want to pull more, get ur ass to work or get a personality. I know alot of guys that do it just so they they can have a particular image.....the image that the general public has of users.....again I find that pathetic.

Ok now that I've insulted a large portion of the users on this board I'll give em a chance to flame me :) I can feel my karma going negative already hehehe.

buksoon said:
When I first came to this board--being the rube I am--I thought: oh cool! a board for pain junkees and gym rats--excellent! My people!

I still thought that steroids were only for Svetlana and Natascha and their hairy-chested comrades on the Rumanian luge team. I had ZERO idea non-fascist-ruled people used. (Now I look around in my gym and see telltale signs among sooooo many of the guys. Weird.)

But here's the thing: Um... why? I understand why the powerlifters do--their sport requires it and their sport is their passion.

But for those of you who just want to look good to reap more/better-quality pussy--I just don't get it.

Seems dysfunctional. And humility and lack of vanity is WAAAY sexier than freakish hypertrophy anyway.
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Frackal said:
I didn't say you couldn't ask the question, but you could have found your answer without asking it. Also, dont expect not to get flamed when asking your answer in a generally negative way, rather than an open-minded one...

Btw again, you did not answer my question. Have you ever HAD a big/muscular, attractive, funny, humble man before?
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A humble man does not say it....:rolleyes:

You ARE saying you prefer a small man who is not in shape to a big man who is...somehow I do not believe you.
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That's pretty much what she's saying (except she's saying she does not prefer a HUGE in shape guy to a regular/skinny in shape guy) and that is why it's clear that you do NOT understand women. Psychologically there is something problematic about women who look for a 6 foot, 250lb hulk to "protect" them. It displays a lack of independence and more often than not, some childhood trauma issues with father/protector figures. I think Mandika's words vis-à-vis the bull might best describe the thought processes involved with this fallacy.

And I'm surprised you're not flaming me, I thought I was more "negative" on this thread than Buksoon. To tell the truth, the thread (from her start) sounded more like "I don't understand, is there a something I'm missing" than "You are meat-headed morons" to me. As for I'mnotdutch...:rolleyes:

Frackal- it sounds more like you have convinced yourself of something and are now defending a decision which you know is, at best, dubitable. No one questioned your intelligence or whether or not you're a funny guy, we've seen your posts. The point that had been made is that for MOST women, that is enough. A point that has also been made (and repeated) is that you can look awesome ("for the chicks") even without AS. THEY ARE A SHORTCUT to "unattainable" size. I put that in quotes because, as Chesty posted in his "15 years and 25 pounds of muscle," you reach a limit. Don't you think that there is a reason our bodies stop at some point? It's like pain; it TELLS you to stop before damage is done. The human body is an unbelievable and almost perfectly designed machine. Whether or not you believe in God you must believe that whoever or whatever designed this thing left it that way for a reason.

It is good that you use AS "intelligently" and have reviewed the risks/benefits (you forgot ALTERNATIVES btw). The problem is that MOST do not. As for the risk/benefit argument, even if I have advised a patient of the risks and benefits of a procedure/drug, I still can't/won't give it if my training says that the harm outweighs the benefit. Same goes for a plastic surgeon. Most reputable ones will send a patient for psychiatric counselling when they are clearly disregarding a risk/benefit analysis.

And btw, I thought that the gear shrunk up that little package down below.

Crazier- try checking out Chesty's thread:http://209.11.101.244/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79756
I totally agree with Imnotdutch here. At 18 I was 5'10" 145 and by lifting and eating o.k. I was at 175 within a year and stable at 180, 5'10" by 21. But I'm an Ectomorph, so what do I know. I only wish I knew then what I knew now about PROPER diet; I could have been fucking HUGE and RIPPED back then. I guess what they say is true...youth is wasted on the young...
 
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Fonz said:




Frankly, (from your post) somebody would have to be pretty
DUMB in not knowing what Bodyfat% is, don't you think???
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re-read her post. she said, "I don't know what my "perfect guy" will be like, but he won't know to the percentage point his body fat."


she didn't say somebody doesn't know what bodyfat% is.
 
non-sport related people use steroids for many different reasons. i would have to say image is the number one reason. to attract the opposite sex(you feel that you have to be muscular in order to pick up the opposite sex) or to achieve a certain goal(its to be able to lift more, which is an image). it all falls under image. wether it is self image or the image you want to project to society.

i believe the arguement either way is fruitless, and hypocritical.

frackel, no offense but i think you sort of went off on a tangent on this one.
buksoon expressed an opinion, thats all.
she said" but for those of you who just want to look good to reap more/better-quality pussy--i just don't get it."

you proceeded to answer her with some ligitimate responses(healing back) as to why you use them. but one of your reasons is to attract the opposite sex.
this is why she is asking "why".
do you not feel that you can attract the opposite sex without them. i'm sure you can, for i have easily. i know plenty of people that are natural and have very descent size, hell some natural people are often accussed of using, when not. you obviously have convinced yourself that being 180-190 naturally is not good enough, therefore you must try to get even bigger.

my point being, everything you said in regards to "looking better, more muscular, six-pack abs" can be obtained naturally, so why use.
because image is often a step ahead of us.

frackel said "What annoys me the most about this post is the naive ignorance...you know nothing about steroids obviously."

"So I'll tell you what, do some research, open your eyes and learn a bit, then come back...don't come on a pro-steroid board asking ignorant questions about steroids."

where in the world did she claim or need to claim for that matter knowledge of AS. thats not what this thread was about.
frackel, you will justify your use by any logic nessecary, which is fine, because for the most part i agree with you, not to, would be hypocritical and i dont know which i despise more, hypocracy or insincerity.

by the way i have an internet crush on buksoon, so im sticking up for her on this one, and it is a ligitimate opinion of hers.

as always, just my .02.
 
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Nice post spongebob. Frackals statements came off in a negative way with me and I have juiced. I'd like to sell the rest of the AS but that is too risky so I guess I'll do it again.

There are all types of steroid users with all kinds of reasons. I'll bet some do it out of curiousity and the challenge to try something very new and different. Hard not to wonder what one would look and feel like with an extra 20 lbs of muscles and less fat.

This is what I am thinking. "Hot" women go for "hot" guys generally speaking. I would not be surprised if "hot" people tend to have more than their share of psychological hang ups. The possibility of compensation for other weaknesses must be considered as well. My observation is that while the women may look better that go for bodybuilders, the quality of the woman suffers as a rule.

Steroids can be very safe if one does a lot of research, buys safe gear, and administers properly. I really doubt that doing a couple months of roids here and there will have a lasting negative impact on health. Especially when you consider that people who get into it also tend to pay more attention to sleep and diet and avoid mind altering drugs. My .02 for now. I really like this discussion.
 
Yeah, my statements were negative because she pissed me off.

First,

babydoc: "A humble man does not say it...."

A humble man does not say it? Maybe, but I know what I am, what traits I have and what I lack, does that mean I go around in real life bragging about it? No, I'm very quiet, polite and down to earth, I never treat anyone as if they are beneath me.

I felt it was necessary in this case to 'say it.'

Spongebob:

I did go off on a tangent, because like I said above, this post really pissed me off. It wasn't the question that angered me, someone else posted a similiar thread on the AAS board awhile back, but they asked the question in a way where I did not feel as though they were laughing at all non-sports related AAS users.

Maybe I was wrong but at least I know I'm not the only one who was offended here.

I suppose it's also because I was already generally annoyed at buksoon anyway.

As far as not attracting the opposite sex, anyone who doesn't use AAS specifically for sports/rehab purposes is using it to some degree to attract the opposite sex. Is that pathetic?

Absolutely not! Men do all KINDS of different things to get 'more chicks.' One is making lots of money, is making alot of money (partially to get women) thought of as pathetic? No, and neither should be AAS usage.


Honestly, I did not feel as though I was trying to justify my 'usage' to her..maybe I was a little pissy about it, but I dont apologize. I felt as though I was defending myself after being called pathetic, and I know I wasn't the only one.

I suppose I am a little fucking tired of hearing bullshit about AAS at least once a day in GNC, so I am hypersensitive to getting pissed at anyone who critisizes it without a valid reason. (IMO)
 
bouncer said:
Guys you should see Mandinka is spandex !!

Bouncer
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Are you sure? I don't know if I want to see that or not.;)

To answer Buksoon's question I could give a rats ass is girls find my musclature attractive or not. I lift because I want to be a competitive powerlifter, scottish games athlete, and eventually strongman. Most girls I know tell my that I am too big already and none of them has seen me stop lifting yet. If a girl doesn't like me for everything that I am then I won't be with her and she shouldn't be with me.
 
Test boy said:
There are all types of steroid users with all kinds of reasons. I'll bet some do it out of curiousity and the challenge to try something very new and different. Hard not to wonder what one would look and feel like with an extra 20 lbs of muscles and less fat.

This is what I am thinking. "Hot" women go for "hot" guys generally speaking. I would not be surprised if "hot" people tend to have more than their share of psychological hang ups. The possibility of compensation for other weaknesses must be considered as well. My observation is that while the women may look better that go for bodybuilders, the quality of the woman suffers as a rule.

Steroids can be very safe if one does a lot of research, buys safe gear, and administers properly. I really doubt that doing a couple months of roids here and there will have a lasting negative impact on health. Especially when you consider that people who get into it also tend to pay more attention to sleep and diet and avoid mind altering drugs. My .02 for now. I really like this discussion.
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EXCELLENT post, Test boy. I already gave you good Karma so I have to spread it around before I can give it again but I was impressed by your insight and just wanted to say "good post"; your point about "hot" guys and "hot" girls could not have been more succinctly and accurately stated.
 
thebabydoc said:
EXCELLENT post, Test boy. I already gave you good Karma so I have to spread it around before I can give it again but I was impressed by your insight and just wanted to say "good post"; your point about "hot" guys and "hot" girls could not have been more succinctly and accurately stated.
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Thank you!....I can use all the good karma I can get because it shows that people enjoyed my input or learned something. Nice feeling to think you are having a positive impact. Other people have not been able to give me karma for some reason?
 
Crazier said:
Pussy. What can I say? 170 pound guy pulls much more, and much higher quality pussy than a 130 pounder. Believe me, it's not bullshit. About a month into my first cycle... BAM... chics... All over the place. Pullin' pussy like it's free. It's a HUGE difference.
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I've been both... 130 and 170. 130 ---> 170 did not require any juice.

I think the real question to be asked here is not "Why do you juice?", but rather, "Why do you juice when you do not have to?" If you're 250lbs or something and want to get bigger still, juice may be the only answer. If you still haven't reached 220lbs or even 200lbs, why waste the money, time, and risk the health?

I see guys posting shit all the time: "this is me before my cycle, this is me a few months later as a fat piece of shit, this is me a few months later looking awesome after getting ripped" wow congratulations... add up those months and I could have had the same progress naturally without being a fat shit and burning a gear-hole in my pocket in between.

I guess that's just me, though.

-Warik
 
Warik...very very very good point!!!! I agree.

B True
 
We'll see who looks like what in 3 years. :)

No natural without superfreak genetics can beat a juicer who uses intelligently and conservatively.
 
You must be right...me going from 152 to 305 in 6 years naturally must be impossible then huh?

B True
 
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when i go to Giants Stadium and there are fans of the opposing team cheering for their team or they jeer against the giants. i stand up and look at them real mean and flex a little bit. they get scared and sit down. that is why i juice. :D
 
b fold the truth said:
You must be right...me going from 152 to 305 in 6 years naturally must be impossible then huh?

B True
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well bro, anyone can get fat, i doubt you are a lean 305, if you were, your ass would be on stage next to ronnie coleman, not trying to be a dick, but i'm calling a spade a spade
 
Frackal said:
I suppose I am a little fucking tired of hearing bullshit about AAS at least once a day in GNC, so I am hypersensitive to getting pissed at anyone who critisizes it without a valid reason. (IMO)
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LOL, I know what that feals like (GNC thing). The bottom line for me is this. I seriously will not be happy with myself till I reach a certain point physically. Why this is? I have no clue, but I know that using will get me there a helluva lot faster then the natural way, which would take years. I also feel really good when I am on, for some reason, I have a much more positive attitude towards everything. I also feel I owe NO ONE an explanation when questioned why. The only person I have to justify usage to is ME, MYSELF, and I. If im happy with it, then fuck what other people think
 
fistfullofsteel said:
when i go to Giants Stadium and there are fans of the opposing team cheering for their team or they jeer against the giants. i stand up and look at them real mean and flex a little bit. they get scared and sit down. that is why i juice. :D
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Do you use toilet paper to wipe the shit out of your pants when those little vatos raise up their shirt to reveal the handle of a .357 tucked in their pants?

Frackal- Try beating my sperm count:D
 
Frackal said:

As far as not attracting the opposite sex, anyone who doesn't use AAS specifically for sports/rehab purposes is using it to some degree to attract the opposite sex. Is that pathetic?

Absolutely not! Men do all KINDS of different things to get 'more chicks.' One is making lots of money, is making alot of money (partially to get women) thought of as pathetic? No, and neither should be AAS usage.

I suppose I am a little fucking tired of hearing bullshit about AAS at least once a day in GNC, so I am hypersensitive to getting pissed at anyone who critisizes it without a valid reason. (IMO)
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thanks for the descent response, but i'm not surprised.
like i said i agree, it is to attract the opposite(and in some cases the same sex) sex. and i dont think its pathetic. i dont think anything someone does to attract the opposite sex is pathetic for that matter, because again i would be hypocritical if i did.
hell at least were not pissing on tree's.

i can understand the frustration you feel working at GNC, it must suck to hear people demonize something that they have no true knowledge of. but it is useless to try to educate them.

sounds like you really educated yourself on them, but unfortunately thats not the case for some. good luck with your upcoming cycle.

p.s. my comments on buksoon were purely for comic relief affect.
she is just a friend.

later.
 
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thebabydoc said:
Do you use toilet paper to wipe the shit out of your pants when those little vatos raise up their shirt to reveal the handle of a .357 tucked in their pants?

Frackal- Try beating my sperm count:D
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if anybody raises up their shirt and reveals the handle of a .357 tucked in there pants. i automatically raise up my shirt and reveal the handle of my water pistol, and then I say, "SAY WHEN!"
 
Frackal said:
We'll see who looks like what in 3 years. :)
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When did it become a race? =)

Frackal said:
No natural without superfreak genetics can beat a juicer who uses intelligently and conservatively.
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IMO, not a single competitor of this year's Mr. O...

a) Looks as good as...

or

b) Will out-live

guys like Steve Reeves.

Looks to me like Mr. Reeves already "beat" them. =)

-Warik
 
Oh boy!! All them anti-AAS chat MORONS are at it again....LOL


Give me a break and show a little foresight here. Buksoon
wrote this post to stir up the pot. Thats it. I don't
really think she cares about the responses on this thread
anyways. Just another way of drawing some attention.

And all the white knights in shinning armour just HAVE
to come out to defend her vulnerable female self....LOL

Wake up!!! A natural BB'er WOULD NOT EVEN COME CLOSE
to the strength/speed/explosiveness of an AS user.

Thebabydoc, I really love how much TRASH you talk to
other people here, but in real life I would ERRADICATE
you in pretty much ANY athletic event.

So, do us all a favour and go crawl back under your
natural shroud.......LOL

When you're ready to play in the big leagues, PLEASE
STEP UP TO THE PLATE....

Fonz
 
Fonz said:
Oh boy!! All them anti-AAS chat MORONS are at it again....LOL


Give me a break and show a little foresight here. Buksoon
wrote this post to stir up the pot. Thats it. I don't
really think she cares about the responses on this thread
anyways. Just another way of drawing some attention.

And all the white knights in shinning armour just HAVE
to come out to defend her vulnerable female self....LOL

Wake up!!! A natural BB'er WOULD NOT EVEN COME CLOSE
to the strength/speed/explosiveness of an AS user.

Thebabydoc, I really love how much TRASH you talk to
other people here, but in real life I would ERRADICATE
you in pretty much ANY athletic event.

So, do us all a favour and go crawl back under your
natural shroud.......LOL

When you're ready to play in the big leagues, PLEASE
STEP UP TO THE PLATE....

Fonz
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sounds like you've just done what you accuse buksoon of doing.
i told you not to talk about her. :mad: LOL
 
Fonz said:
Oh boy!! All them anti-AAS chat MORONS are at it again....LOL

Thebabydoc, I really love how much TRASH you talk to
other people here, but in real life I would ERRADICATE
you in pretty much ANY athletic event.

So, do us all a favour and go crawl back under your
natural shroud.......LOL

When you're ready to play in the big leagues, PLEASE
STEP UP TO THE PLATE....
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WTF?
I didn't talk trash here (oh I get it, that ectomorph thing..hehe). This WAS a legitimate thread in which people were sharing their various opinions along with some good-natured kidding. I have no real problem with appropriately used AS; the points here were that it is often used inappropriately for a shortcut or excessively and sets a bad example for amateurs. Also noted is the fact that you can get "big" and "in shape" without AS and the gains are not worth it (in some women's opinions) to land a "hotter" chick. No one ever said a "natural" guy could ever keep up with an AS user. Just like your comment earlier of %BF, you need to READ ALL THE WORDS. 10,000 books don't mean jack shit if you skim and skip the salient features.

"Big leagues? Step up to the plate?"You ridiculous piece of shit. Now you're better than anyone else here because you use AS?

Don't come a callin' me out because you don't want none of what I got, you half-bald, one ball, shrivelled-testicle, limp-dicked, platform shoe-wearin' midget. Go back to your basement flat where you and your half-brother roommate can pump each other between sets. Try reading another 10,000 books on "jerking a shrinking pud to make it grow." And don't you EVER compare yourself to me, it'd just make you shorter and more insecure than you already are.

How's that for trash talk, Fonz Ayyyyyyy?
 
:lmao:

<runs to get popcorn seeds>
 
Fonz said:
Oh boy!! All them anti-AAS chat MORONS are at it again....LOL


Give me a break and show a little foresight here. Buksoon
wrote this post to stir up the pot. Thats it. I don't
really think she cares about the responses on this thread
anyways. Just another way of drawing some attention.

And all the white knights in shinning armour just HAVE
to come out to defend her vulnerable female self....LOL

Wake up!!! A natural BB'er WOULD NOT EVEN COME CLOSE
to the strength/speed/explosiveness of an AS user.

Thebabydoc, I really love how much TRASH you talk to
other people here, but in real life I would ERRADICATE
you in pretty much ANY athletic event.

So, do us all a favour and go crawl back under your
natural shroud.......LOL

When you're ready to play in the big leagues, PLEASE
STEP UP TO THE PLATE....

Fonz
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Fonz and Frack, you guys are so funny. I no longer have to do crunches for all the belly laughs I get from you.

Frack, a word on humility if you don't mind: Did you ever see pro athletes after a victory, or a great play, and they deflect attention from themselves in favor of the team and it's somehow really SINCERE? It's amazing ... and sexy!

And then I imagine you guys: "Oh yeah, I'm da fuckin' man, it's all me man, I am the King, I"m fuckin IT, come on you pussies, step to the plate and behold me, ME ME ME!"

Fonz, as for my motives: I was actually asking a legitimate question. It was YOU and the other Big Swinging (and completely delusional) Dicks who took this thread in the direction it went. Not me, you.

Calling attention to myself?? HA HA HA!! That's funny! So many of these posts are: "I stand up and show my size and people sit down..." "People stare at me in fear and respect..." blah blah blah. But I'm the one who's after attention.

Listen to yourself to talk, sometime. Just a thought.
 
Almost forgot...

I picked my event.... Golf.
That or sportfucking your momma. (I just hope I'm buff enough for her).
 
Frackal said:


I suppose I am a little fucking tired of hearing bullshit about AAS at least once a day in GNC, so I am hypersensitive to getting pissed at anyone who critisizes it without a valid reason. (IMO)
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i forgot to mention my thoughts on this frackel.
its funny how people do ridicule AS and those same people come into your store and blindly follow the bullshit that is put out about "supplements".
thats hypocracy.
granted, abuse of AS can be more harmful than conservative use of supplements. but some people "abuse" those supplements too.
thats just another .02 of mine.
 
buksoon said:


And then I imagine you guys: "Oh yeah, I'm da fuckin' man, it's all me man, I am the King, I"m fuckin IT, come on you pussies, step to the plate and behold me, ME ME ME!"
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i dont know him in real life but from what ive read on here frack is far from this.

doint take it the wrong way here but what he said about you having this stereotypical image of BB'ers etc....maybe you do? you cant possibbly think just because a lot of the people on here have questionable political/social views that represents all weightlifters that use roids......thats just the impression i got from that last post

and you will probably agree with me when you ask a question its probably not a good idea to add on an insult or ask it in a condescending way.....because your first post seemed to insinuate that you had already made up your mind and that the question was rhetorical, and also potentialy insult some people. so maybe the question itself and where it was asked lead to the thread going this way.

and ask yourself this.....the majority of anorexics are women. why--> the modern media presetns this waif like figure and declares it 'hot'

so, you think males aren;t self concious of their bodily image. i read in a london newspaper from a 'scientist' who said a six pac was unattainable unless you did 200 situps every day or used AS. same thing, it even has a name, bigorexia. do a search on here, ive seen lots of people look at themselves and think about whether they are 'bigorexics'
 
Danielson

Wow, excellent post. Truly.

Now THIS is why I started the thread (okay, Fonz?).

"Bigorexia"--that makes sense to me. Esp. since anorexia often comes with dysmorphia (women see fat that isn't there) and so often you'll tell a muscle guy: "Hey, you're huge" and they don't see it.

But I don't think some of the guys on this board--the type who have sorta flamed me--would 'fess up to anything like that. I don't think they understand themselves well enough to know that this need to be big, big, big and exude power through physical alone comes from an insecurity.

This is really, REALLY rushed; I am late for movie. Just wanted to say: great post.

And to my "white knights" (Babydoc, Sponge, Test)--you all know you don't HAVE to defend me, but I still love ya to bits for it!!!!
 
Damn...this thread is better than a movie. I just broke out some popcorn...did somebody else say that?

buksoon...you can talk a pretty good game for a virgin. "Big swinging dicks"! Now whats wrong with a big swinging dick? :p
 
I've used AAS for all the wrong reasons. A short cut, to get me to where I want to be for myself. But I did not, nor will I use them for pussy. My wife might get upset about that...
 
Re: Danielson

buksoon said:


And to my "white knights" (Babydoc, Sponge, Test)--you all know you don't HAVE to defend me, but I still love ya to bits for it!!!!
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as i put my boots on. a white knight defends a princess whether she asks or not, it is our duty as a white knight.
 
Yea
sometimes you have to be diplomatic:)

and other times you got to unleash the flood gates:D

ps it was green.
 
Re: Danielson

buksoon said:
Wow, excellent post. Truly.

Now THIS is why I started the thread (okay, Fonz?).

"Bigorexia"--that makes sense to me. Esp. since anorexia often comes with dysmorphia (women see fat that isn't there) and so often you'll tell a muscle guy: "Hey, you're huge" and they don't see it.

But I don't think some of the guys on this board--the type who have sorta flamed me--would 'fess up to anything like that. I don't think they understand themselves well enough to know that this need to be big, big, big and exude power through physical alone comes from an insecurity.

This is really, REALLY rushed; I am late for movie. Just wanted to say: great post.

And to my "white knights" (Babydoc, Sponge, Test)--you all know you don't HAVE to defend me, but I still love ya to bits for it!!!!
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some have said they might be 'bigorexic' that i remember.....but they dont necessarily see it as a bad thing. hell i have. i dont think i look any different to what i used to but i KNOW i do because people have said.

but yeah i can agree that many people might be affected by such a possible condition (not exactly a medical term its just what the dudes in the media call it) :)

of course their are many that wanna be big just for the sake of it. you'd really be suprised how big a factor physical size is in how others percieve you, both male and females. extreme size isnt exactly amazing in a fight but people tend not to mess with a 'big guy', it add strength to fighting, 1/3 the power of a properly exectuted punch is muscluar strength, and hey if people didnt cared what they looked like, no-one would bother dressing nice, shaving etc.

but i definately agree with you and some others when they have said that people might just hit the roidswithout even trying the natural route or even assesing how possible it is to hit that size without gear.
 
I believe that my physique will actually help me in the workplace. I'm a finance major, and perception plays a big roll in business. Not only does a fit person display a dedication and commitment that is uncommon, it is also visually impressive.
 
Re: Danielson

buksoon said:
Wow, excellent post. Truly.

Now THIS is why I started the thread (okay, Fonz?).

"Bigorexia"--that makes sense to me. Esp. since anorexia often comes with dysmorphia (women see fat that isn't there) and so often you'll tell a muscle guy: "Hey, you're huge" and they don't see it.

But I don't think some of the guys on this board--the type who have sorta flamed me--would 'fess up to anything like that. I don't think they understand themselves well enough to know that this need to be big, big, big and exude power through physical alone comes from an insecurity.

This is really, REALLY rushed; I am late for movie. Just wanted to say: great post.

And to my "white knights" (Babydoc, Sponge, Test)--you all know you don't HAVE to defend me, but I still love ya to bits for it!!!!
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LOL.....getting flamed by Buksoon.....HAHA

No offense Bukeroo BUT the INSUANUATED meaning in your
first post was VERY OBVIOUS.

You were basically trying to demean people who use AS by
adopting your little "I love skinny guys" mentality......

And btw, what on earth is a skinny guy from your point of
view????

5"10 130lbs?? Less...? More.....?

Heck, I'm 187 5"9 and I'm relatively small compared to some
of the tackles/guards(Football) and Forwards(Rugby) I play with.

And no offense but if you think a woman is going to go for a
fat/skinny guy before a muscular guy(Assumming they
have the same kind of personalities), then you got a serious case
of crack addiction.

And baby-MORON-shrimp-sized brain-one-testicled-toothless
granny-stalking-2 inch pecker-crab infested cum stained
cock-sucking-little midget w/ FLS DOC,

Please don't get started with me because I'll flame you so bad
you'll have to get surgery to remove your head out of your ass.

Fonz
 
Danielson: That WAS a very interesting point, one which I never even imagined..."Bigorexia." But what about the so-called "small penis syndrome" and insecurity? Do you think they play a role as well?

For others (esp. frackal, fuzz): You say that you think that when people see you they think "muscles=dumb." Well, this is not like being obese. You have a choice to be big or to be HUGE. Once again, if your livelihood does not depend on it (e.g. if you are not an athelete or pro b.b.) and you consider the real world where people go to work every day, wouldn't it be important how others view you and their first impressions?
 
Originally posted by that loser, fuzz
And baby-MORON-shrimp-sized brain-one-testicled-toothless
granny-stalking-2 inch pecker-crab infested cum stained
cock-sucking-little midget w/ FLS DOC,

Please don't get started with me because I'll flame you so bad
you'll have to get surgery to remove your head out of your ass.
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By the way fuzz, you might want to pick up your mouthpiece from the corner 'cause you just got knocked the fuck out. That flame was more like a small thermonuclear detonation on your ass and you failed to answer the bell for round 2.

The only thing being surgically removed on this board will be my boot from your gaping ass. It'd be easy for me to operate on you too, because you only have 2 functioning parts- your mouth and your asshole- and they're quite obviously interchangeable.
 
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Listen Buksoon,


First of all, you don't know me in real life, so kindly shut the fuck up.

Second of all, if you must know, I am far MORE 'braggarty' and far LESS humble on this board then in real life, because I find it fun and humorous, and I don't even think I'm that much of a braggart on here...I am a confident person yes, a braggart, no.

And Fonz is right, you care nothing about the subject of which you posted.

The way you phrased your original post on this thread is insulting and inflammatory, which is why you recieved a similar-toned response from me.

Now, regarding 'bigorexia,' give me a break...that reminds me of a saying, "Obsessed is what the lazy call the dedicated."

I guarantee you as a moderate AAS user I am just as and probably FAR more dedicated than many of the naturals on here and everywhere else. I am certainly one of the most dedicated persons at my gym from what I can see, and that's just training, I aim for 9 hours of sleep per night as well as never falling short of 6 meals per day.

I will admit, when I feel weak, small, and depleted, I feel disgusting, and when I feel strong, large and pumped I feel awesome.

What drives me is something you will obviously never understand.

You make too big a deal of steroid usage...steroids are just one gun in my arsenal to blast through walls and achieve my goals...have you ever used creatine? Well you are introducing supraphysiological levels of a natural substance into the body....unnatural levels... I do the same thing when I inject 250mg of testosterone into my quad.

Now, to understand why I want to get 'bigger' you must understand the way I live my life.

I want nothing less than to be the best that I can possibly be in EVERY area of my life.

That is, mentally, physically, and spiritually. Right now, I'm working on the physical first, mental second and spiritual third.

I have a certain goal and size I'd like to be before I am satisfied, I don't just want to get endlessley bigger, 225lbs at around 7% bodyfat is my current goal, which would take less than a year if I juiced up like mad, using fina, high dosages of test, etc...

But I am taking the more conservative route, staying away from fina, dbol, anadrol and high dosages of test simply because I feel that for one I am too young to use such androgenic compounds, so I do light cycles instead, to take me to my goals quicker than a natural, but safely as well.

I will never settle for being average, not in any area of my life.

And by the way, who are you to critisize someone for having an insecurity? I am sure you have many.
 
thebabydoc said:
Danielson: That WAS a very interesting point, one which I never even imagined..."Bigorexia." But what about the so-called "small penis syndrome" and insecurity? Do you think they play a role as well?
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uhh are u being sarcastic?

yeah i do though. it think very similar things can be found in those who want to get real big real fast and dont care how and those who are anorexic and need to lose weight fast again not caring how

its not a medical term but its one people use more and more often
 
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