Wholy Crap!

[DrBones]

Wholy Crap,
I took B folds advice and started eating everything in sight.. I started doing this when I ended cutting August 12'th
I've gone from 178 to 194 since August 12th...
The only supplements I've been taking are post workout carb/protein shake and creatine, 5g a day.
I'm sure there is at least 3-5 lbs of fat and a pile of water... but ALL of my lifts have been going through the roof...
I'm guessing I went from around 11% BF to something like 13 something...
I think I'm going to reduce my calories slightly, because if I kept this level of eating up I'd become a fat ass pretty quick if the weight kept coming like its been coming so far.
I never realized how important eating your face off was until now..
thanks for the advice clint!

Ryan

 

[Doktor Bollix]

Wow, you will catch up with B fold by christmas at that rate. Do you think the strength increase was partly a rebound effect after cutting? Cutting ruins my strength, I need carbs.

 

[gettinlarger]

EXCELLENT WORK!

 

[DrBones]

Doktor:
Before I started cutting I was definitely lifting more and I definitely had more energy to lift. Just after I started cutting I had to lower the weight a bit because I just wasnt getting enough calories to recouperate. I am now lifting significantly more weight and having a helluva lot more intense workouts since I have a lot more calories to expend. I seriously doubt I will ever catch up to BFOLD... but he is a great role model.
My girlfriend isn't very happy with the sudden weight gain... she is calling me pudge-O or something like that...
I'm hoping to pack on a good 10 lbs of muscle naturally by next summer... I want to sit around 185-190 with 9% BF..
Wish me luck

Getting Larger: Thanks for the support

Ryan

 

[Greek Freak]

How long have you been training for? thats a great weight gain for such a short time.

 

[DrBones]

I've been training since I was 16... I'm 21 now.
My first couple of years of lifting I'm 100% sure I was overtraining.
I wound up causing myself a huge muscle imbalance between my chest and back. I mainly worked my chest and arms and shoulders for my first three years.
After my third year my shoulder was so messed up I had to take like 6 months off. When I came back I didn't lift very heavy weights, I was focusing more on cutting. After last summer my shoulder was trashed again.. and I went up to 200 lbs and I was getting damn chunky. So I in january of this year I started going to a really dinky local gym again and did rotator cuff excersices and some rows 2-3 times a week until my shoulder felt decent. When March rolled around I figured I'd check out Fitness Avenue(it used to be a Gators but the owner changed the name)
I was sitting at around 190 with a pretty high BF %. I gradually raised my weights as my shoulder would let me... Hell 55 lb dumbells felt very painful when trying to press(I'm able to do 100's now without much pain). I forced myself to work through the pain and things started to gradually get better.
In may I decided I wanted to cut down for summer. I was sitting around 187.. I cut down to 178 and was sitting around 10-11% BF (maybe lower, but i never got tested).
Over the course of my 5 years I had never done much legs or back. My routine is very well balanced now and back and legs are now two of my favorite body parts to work.
Don't get me wrong, I definitely did gain a bit of fat... but no where near 16 lbs... my guess is 3 lbs.
I hope that answered your question Greek Freak
Thanks
Ryan

 

[DrBones]

I forgot to mention..
I also take these vitamins/supplements daily:
2 Shaklee vita-lea multi-vitamin
1 shaklee Osteokintics (Glucosamine, Devil's Claw and Alfalfa)
2 Shaklee Vitamin C 500's (1000mg)
1 post workout Shaklee Physique Carb/Protein Drink
5G prolab creatine

Home made ZMA (recipe below)
2 Shaklee Zinc pills (30 mg)
1 Shaklee Vitamin B-Complex
5 shaklee Calcium Magnesiums/day

Some more info
THanks
Ryan

 

[b fold the truth]

I am so proud of you man!!!! Seriously. Just share your knowledge with others as well as how the extra weight gain helped your strength and what you lose when you diet. Just because I say it...doesn't mean that it is true for you...modify to suit your needs...then share!!!

When you bulk, focus on mass and strength. When you cut, cut conservatively and slowly, and focus on maintaining that strength. There is a correlation between size and strength (to a degree). I would always try to maintain most all of my strength when I would cut and I KNEW that as soon as I started force feeding again that my strength and size would once again shoot through the roof!!!

When you get the chance...start a new thread and post what all that you are eating!!! Help everyone else out with YOUR ideas and what is working for YOU.

B True

 

[DrBones]

Thanks for the support Bfold.. It means a lot to me...
I just made another thread with some of the foods I eat..
Thanks!
Ryan

 

[b fold the truth]

Keep posting on that thread daily!!! 4,000 kcals isn't all that much...and yet it is a good bit of food. Most people have no idea how little they truly eat...

B True

 

[DrBones]

OK.. I'll keep it up to date...
Some times I eat way more than that... but that is more or less an average day... Usually by the time i leave work around 2, I feel like I'm going to explode...
I might be undershooting my exact caloric intake.. I'll have to calculate it one day.. maybe tomorrow? and find out exactly how many im taking in...
How many cals do you think you take in a day B? I know your close to 100 lbs more than me.. but I'm still interested..
Thanks
Ryan

 

[louden_swain]

Huge gains!! Congratulations!

 

[b fold the truth]

The past few weeks haven't been nice to me. Been under a lot of stress at the moment and my nerves have gotten the best of me. I keep getting into this habbit of going days without sleep (or getting less than 3 hrs a night) and only eating 1 small meal a day.

When bulking I eat 6-8k a day though...about to start that again.

Can't think of much that is worth me getting this upset over...

B True

 

[louden_swain]

Whats troubling you B Fold?? PM me if you don't want it out in the open. If I am stressed, my body will burn too many calories making me lose weight. In tough times it is important for me to eat.

 

[Lord_Suston]

Hey Bones, good progress nothing like a little extra fuel in the tank to charge you up and get you bigger, keep it up and then when you decide to the you can cut down gradually...

 

[b fold the truth]

Weighed 283 tonight...will hit 290+ by October 5.

B True

 

[gettinlarger]

The past few weeks haven't been nice to me. Been under a lot of stress at the moment and my nerves have gotten the best of me. I keep getting into this habbit of going days without sleep (or getting less than 3 hrs a night) and only eating 1 small meal a day.

When bulking I eat 6-8k a day though...about to start that again.

Can't think of much that is worth me getting this upset over...

B True

Yeah dude, me too. I've been a little stressed, but not enough to hurt me any. But I've eating like crap. Remember I said I gained like 12 pounds in 3 weeks? Yeah ... I haven't put on anything since. I hope i find out what's wrong soon, if anything ...

DrBones. I agree with B, start telling people exactly what you've been eating, how you've been training, etc. Get the word out son!

 

[DrBones]

I will definitely keep posting what I'm doing...
Whats troubling you B? I'm on here at least a couple of times a day.. if you want to talk PM me...
Its a bit late so I'll post what I ate today tomorrow.
Night guys
Ryan

 

[IR0N.]

Hey B, I don't really know how bad you feel things are, or how bad things are getting. One thing I know; when I get worn down (too goddamn often these days), I read the writing I'm going to paste here. It gets me going. Inspiring as hell . . . Taken from another board, respectively P&B:

BULLSHIT!

A man is found manly not in his accomplishments, but in HOW they are accomplished. I'm not talking about that "how he plays the game" shit either. I'm talking about training. I'm talking about going from where you are right now to find yourself where you never thought you could be. This requires a part of you that may have been forgotten. It often is. But if you're out there, training like an animal, GODAMNIT...training how YOU SHOULD...and BY GOD better had be, it'll be there.

You're not some sniveling hardgainer that sits at home waiting for his spleen to feel right so that he can "hit the gym". You're a bona fide competitive lifter! This is not the time to be thinking about the heat, or how hard it's going to be, or how hard it is today.

This is it. This is what you train for, it's part of your life! Do it now, and talk about how hard it WAS! Get that "weakness" shit out of your head. Go ahead and vomit. Go ahead and pass out. Shit. I' don't even care if you're missing shit left and right, but don't you go inside. Don't say, "Aw, man, that was tough. I need a break." NO WAY, BITCH! Pick your ass up. Wipe the sweat from your eyes and GO!!! As soon as you stop, you've been defeated because guess what?! There's someone else that didn't. They kept moving. They found the desire to keep training. They wanted it more, and that sir is A COMPETITOR, THAT IS A CHAMPION!

Are you going to let that happen? Are you going to take a break, or stop for the day because of a little vomiting? Are you going to get beaten in your own yard? That's right. I said "YOUR OWN YARD"! 'Cause that's where it happens. EVERY-FUCKING-DAY! You cart your sorry ass out there and compete whether you like it or not. Goddamnit I hope not because I've got my money on you. CLINT DARDEN is nobody's bitch. You're no loser. You're a fucking competitor...a CHAMPION.

Take it all in. Use it all to make you better than you ever been before. Come meet day, you go out there and do your best, but RIGHT NOW YOU MAKE DAMN SURE THAT YOUR BEST IS GOOD ENOUGH!!!

Now, get out there and train. Remember that this is “how” your accomplishments will be made.

 

[Haz]

I agee with you DrBones, B-folds approach works. In fact the only way I can put on any mass is by eating my ass off. I just hate all the fat that comes along with the muscle. I've tried eating clean, and cutting calories back a little to try and reduce the amount of fat I would put on, but it doesn't work. I've come to the conclusion that its impossible for me to gain muscle with a low bodyfat percent.

So I'm going to bite the bullet (or cheeseburger in this case), and start stuffing my face.

 

[DrBones]

Haz,
No matter how hard it is to watch a few lbs of fat grow around your mid section... you have to admit that there isn't anything much more satisfying than eating all that tasty food to build that gut!
Thanks
Ryan

 

[ant256]

eating

My gains have been moving slowly in the past months, which I think is probably because of my lower bf% . Previously I had some awesome gains but i had a much higher bf%. I definitly agree with what everyone else is saying but im not planning on bulking anytime soon just because i want to be lean at the present time.

 

[Aussie Juga naught]