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hanibal

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looking for opinions on it. cannot decide between that and liquidex. my cycle is prop, tren, clen, t3, proviron and either eq or winny. i am slightly gyno prone. for now using nolva but need to switch.
 
hanibal said:
looking for opinions on it. cannot decide between that and liquidex. my cycle is prop, tren, clen, t3, proviron and either eq or winny. i am slightly gyno prone. for now using nolva but need to switch.
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Never used the research labs stuff but have used femara and it dires you out well. A bit expensive at $120 for a box but well worth it imo.
 
i like the idea of drying me out like a mofo but concerned that it may cause estrogen deficient side effects. maybe too strong???
 
Letrozole is the BEST AI and strongest for getting rid of early gyno.....1.25mgED say good bye to your sex drive though
 
LETRO is the best anti e out there in my opinion. Got rid of my gyno in about 3 weeks. The only bad part is you will loose some or all of your sex drive (libido). Its worth every penny!

1.25 ed
 
As I understand it, and have experienced it, you are on a bad combo with the prop/tren/and nolva. The nolva upregulates progesterone receptors. I found that nolva was making my gyno worse as I was prone to progesterone gyno from the tren. I would drop the nolva immediately and leave it out. I am on letro now and things are getting better. Actually, I'm on formestane and letro. The formestane is an injectible I made and seems to help as well. My sex drive is on the low side right now, but still there.


Jacob
 
how much letro u taking a day? i was thinking of .5mg ED to start.

- does letro kill sex drive substantially more than liquidex???
 
hanibal said:
looking for opinions on it. cannot decide between that and liquidex. my cycle is prop, tren, clen, t3, proviron and either eq or winny. i am slightly gyno prone. for now using nolva but need to switch.
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Most AIs will hit your sex drive to some degree, so that's always something that's on the table. Letrozole is the strogest anti-E (AI) on the market, best bang for your buck. Liquidex is good for most, but if you're gyno/estrogen prone - I suggest you go with letrozole. How much of each product you using?
 
100mg prop EOD
75-100mg tren ace EOD maybe ED this starts mon. prop and tren will go about 8 weeks. around wk 6 i will start either 10-12 weeks EQ or 6 weeks winny.
clen 2 weeks on 2 off. T3 wk 6-12. 50mg proviron ED wk 8-16. clomid PCT. for now using nolva which will end as soon as i make my decision and order by tomorrow. i broke an important rule of not having arimadex or whatever before starting. usually available but not for now. i'll try AG. they seem ok.
 
Using Nolva with a Progestin will only increase the problem your having regarding estrogen/progesterone related sides.

Use Letro as its the strongest AI around (at the moment) reducing estrogen by upto 98%.
 
letro is the only thing that will keep the bloat off for me. A-dex is junk IMO. Aromasin is good but unless you make your own it too $$$ in the long run.
 
yeah i think i've decided on letro. i'm gonna order tomorrow. i guess 1 bottle is enough for 3 months .5-1mg a day???
 
depending on where you buy from (ie.size). I am using 1.25 mg. ed. I would suggest atleast 1 mg. per day. But, it's up to you. Easier to measure out at 1.25 as that is 1/2 a mL. Good luck!


Jacob
 
gjohnson5 said:
I was under the impression folks were talking nolva along with the femara and only doing femara once a week to have less effect on libido
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that really would not work.... though have seen many reccomendations about nolva and letro that are not well founded...


Cancer. 1994 Jul 1;74(1):74-7. Related Articles, Links


Tamoxifen administration is associated with a high rate of treatment-limiting symptoms in male breast cancer patients.

Anelli TF, Anelli A, Tran KN, Lebwohl DE, Borgen PI.

Department of Surgery, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, New York, New York 10021.

BACKGROUND. Although an uncommon disease, male breast cancer (MBC) will be responsible for 300 deaths in 1993 in the United States. Because of the high rate of estrogen receptor positivity in males, adjuvant hormonal therapy with tamoxifen in the adjuvant setting has been used widely. Little is known about the side effects of this estrogen receptor blocker in males. METHODS. The authors evaluated the side effects of adjuvant tamoxifen treatment in 24 patients (19 of whom were estrogen receptor positive) treated at the authors' institution between 1990 and 1993. RESULTS. Fifteen (62.5%) patients reported at least one side effect. The most common side effect was a decrease in libido, which occurred in 7 (29.2%) patients; followed by weight gain, which occurred in 6 (25%) patients; hot flashes, which occurred in 5 (20.8%); mood alterations, which occurred in 5 (20.8%); depression, which occurred in 4 (16.6%); insomnia, which occurred in 3 (12.5%); and deep venous thrombosis, which occurred in 1 (4.2%). Five (20.8%) patients terminated treatment with tamoxifen in less than 1 year because of these side effects. Two of these patients had decreased libido, two had hot flashes, and one suffered deep venous thrombosis. CONCLUSIONS. In contrast to female breast cancer patients, who have a 4% attrition rate to adjuvant tamoxifen treatment, MBC patients have a 20.8% attrition rate related to side effects of tamoxifen treatment
 
macrophage69alpha said:
that really would not work.... though have seen many reccomendations about nolva and letro that are not well founded...


Cancer. 1994 Jul 1;74(1):74-7. Related Articles, Links


Tamoxifen administration is associated with a high rate of treatment-limiting symptoms in male breast cancer patients.

Anelli TF, Anelli A, Tran KN, Lebwohl DE, Borgen PI.

Department of Surgery, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, New York, New York 10021.

BACKGROUND. Although an uncommon disease, male breast cancer (MBC) will be responsible for 300 deaths in 1993 in the United States. Because of the high rate of estrogen receptor positivity in males, adjuvant hormonal therapy with tamoxifen in the adjuvant setting has been used widely. Little is known about the side effects of this estrogen receptor blocker in males. METHODS. The authors evaluated the side effects of adjuvant tamoxifen treatment in 24 patients (19 of whom were estrogen receptor positive) treated at the authors' institution between 1990 and 1993. RESULTS. Fifteen (62.5%) patients reported at least one side effect. The most common side effect was a decrease in libido, which occurred in 7 (29.2%) patients; followed by weight gain, which occurred in 6 (25%) patients; hot flashes, which occurred in 5 (20.8%); mood alterations, which occurred in 5 (20.8%); depression, which occurred in 4 (16.6%); insomnia, which occurred in 3 (12.5%); and deep venous thrombosis, which occurred in 1 (4.2%). Five (20.8%) patients terminated treatment with tamoxifen in less than 1 year because of these side effects. Two of these patients had decreased libido, two had hot flashes, and one suffered deep venous thrombosis. CONCLUSIONS. In contrast to female breast cancer patients, who have a 4% attrition rate to adjuvant tamoxifen treatment, MBC patients have a 20.8% attrition rate related to side effects of tamoxifen treatment
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Thank you. I'm glad I read this in your other thread. No more nolva
 
Just out of curiousity, for those that have used letro and experienced libido sides, how long did they last after you stopped using letro??
 
digimon7068 said:
Just out of curiousity, for those that have used letro and experienced libido sides, how long did they last after you stopped using letro??
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From my experience, it's variable, but around 3-6 days is the usual time. Remember, ALL AIs will lower your libido to some degree, so Letrozole is no different.
 
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