Which Pro-Hormone is the best for the dollar?

[JATS]

With the release of so many different prohormones and the popularity of them, what is the best Pro-Hormone for your dollar?

I'm fresh out of school and fresh into debt yet still i want to give PH a good try. So which is it? 1-AD, Trenabol-X, 1-Test, One+, 4AD, Mag 10...

Help me out

 

[John G]

From what I have tried in the past. 1-ad worked the best by far for me. Though I haven't tried 1-test or 1-ad/4-ad stacks either.

 

[VITA DE GLORIA]

Have you had effects negative with the hormones?

gyno or others

 

[John G]

Nothing major

No Gyno or anything. 1-AD just increased my appetite. With the 4-diol 19-nor Stack, I was getting insomnia

 

[gwl9dta4]

Hate to tell you guys but you are wasting money on this crap. When taking pro-hormones you are hoping some of it will "convert" to the desired compound, like deca or test. Well that problem with that is, is that your body converts it to estrogen more often then it does to test. And when it does convert it to test it can suppress the HPTA, so you will come off and crash or get, well, gyno. So for all the money you spend on Hormonal supplemetation you might as well just use real testosterone, 10 times more effect, half the price. DOn't half ass it with pro hormones.




Sincerely

 

[Travbedaman]

You are wrong about everything except the comment about Testosterone being 10 times more effective....More effective for gaining mass and can be more effective for negative side effects (like the ones you mentioned and more).

There are most definetly a few good prohormones out there that do not give you gyno or get mostly converted to estrogen or make you crash hard after you come off.

Most people don`t want to use steroids because they are illegal (or they just can get them)...at least you could of said Fina instead of Testosterone, since that can be obtained legally, just illegal to use it on yourself.

 

[gwl9dta4]

You are wrong about everything except the comment about Testosterone being 10 times more effective....More effective for gaining mass and can be more effective for negative side effects (like the ones you mentioned and more).

There are most definetly a few good prohormones out there that do not give you gyno or get mostly converted to estrogen or make you crash hard after you come off.

Most people don`t want to use steroids because they are illegal (or they just can get them)...at least you could of said Fina instead of Testosterone, since that can be obtained legally, just illegal to use it on yourself.

UMMM, OK. I will just leave at that. Everything you stated in your responce is that of someone who does not even understand the basics of hormonal supplementation. And testosterone is not a steroid. Fina? Ha! You just picked one of the harshest, most androgenic anabilics out there. Real smart to suggest fina, i mean after all you are a seasoned pro hormone user, LOL!!

 

[PsychoSkitz]

Obviously supplements do work gwl.

I've used both supplements and steroids.

People give the "yea thats because you're eating more than normal that you make gains on supplements" -- well newsflash, I eat more when I juice too.

Supplements work better on a rookie of course, but how can you make claims that they don't work?

It's a multi-billion dollar industry for a reason. How would GNC stay in business when they have a money back guarantee if all supplements sucked?

Look at all the 1AD posts. Do you truly believe it's useless?

 

[Par Deus]

Everything you stated in your responce is that of someone who does not even understand the basics of hormonal supplementation.

You are one to talk, particularly considering the line quoted below. Not to mention, he said nothing that was untrue.


"And testosterone is not a steroid."


Interesting. What is it then??

For those who are following this thread, "gwl9dta4" does not have a clue what he is talking about and should be ignored.

 

[2demon2]

Fina? Ha! You just picked one of the harshest, most androgenic anabilics out there.

Where have you been? Maybe you should double-check your own knowledge before questioning that of others.

 

[gwl9dta4]

You guys have a nice day. IN regard to Prohormones my Opinion Is based on the cost effectiveness. In MY book it's not cost effective and it's results are questionable. I nevere disputed supplements as a whole, but only pro-hormones. They are unproven and way overpriced and try to mimmick the real thing.

As to the fina comments. Trembolone is a very harsh and androgenic compund. Period. It has a biological activity that is up to 50 times greater then test. Do your research and find out. I am not talking about opinions here, but actuall facts. Try looking up info on Parabolan, it will make it easier to find somerhitng.


Testosterone- i should have said it's not an anabolic steroid. It is hovewer a steroid. As it is a man made molecule. There is a big difference in medicine between anabolic steroids and Testosterone.

 

[Par Deus]

Testosterone- i should have said it's not an anabolic steroid. It is hovewer a steroid.

So, testosterone is not anabolic. Again, interesting.

 

[riskybizz007]

Testosterone- i should have said it's not an anabolic steroid. It is hovewer a steroid. As it is a man made molecule. There is a big difference in medicine between anabolic steroids and Testosterone.

Pardeus you beat me to the punch... this was just too hilarious to not post again lol

 

[shanedice]

lol...... that is funny...

 

[gwl9dta4]

All right i knew you people would have to have it layed out for you in detail, instead of doing a little thinking and research on your own. It's so pointless talking to some people on the internet, they just assume they know everything and laugh at the possibility that there may just be something they are not 100% enlightened to.

The popuplar myth going around with most of the steroid users is that anabolic steroids are anabolic steroids. No matter the compound, if it exibits any anabolism it gets classified on one of the groups of either class 1 or class 2 anabolic steroid. That many be true for just about all anabolic steroid.

Now all anabolic class steroids have an anabolic and androgenic aspect to them. Testosterone has about and equal ratio of anabolic and androgenic properties. All steroids that are modified from testosterone in where their androgenic aspect is reduced lower and the anabolic side kept higher, thus reducing androgenic side effects becomes an ANABOLIC STEROID. A good exmaple of an anabolic steroid will be Nondrolone. Or better know as Deca Durabolin. This is a classic ANABOLIC but in this case it is not derived from testosterone but rather Progesterone.
So as you can see some anabolics are not even derived from testosterone and can cause side effects similar to test but thorugh different pathways. For example you can get Gyno from estrogen when using test, or you can get it from Progesterone by using deca or tren. This is yet another reason why medicine has 2 different classifications for test and anabolics. Even though test does exibit anabolism it is not classified as an anabolic steroid.

Chemically speaking Testosterone is one substance.
Anabolics could be derived from test, estrogen, progesterone, DHT,etc... That is why they have different classifications in medicine. MEDICINE, not some jucie head opinions.


Sincerely

 

[HarmsWayBC]

1-Test is likely the only product on the market that can pretty much deliver at least a few pounds of LBM gained in a 2-4 cycle. Of course, 1-AD and 4-AD can do the same, but the feedback on 1-Test speaks for itself.

There is also the matter of delivery systems......with the exception of 1-AD, all oral pro-hormones are shit.....topicals are the only truly efficient prohormones on the market......Avant Labs and ErgoPharm (Par Deus' and Pat Arnold's companies) make excellent topical pro-hormones that have consistently gotten positive feedback from users.......spend your money on their products....

of course, beware of Biotest's marketing hype......their prohormones are absolutely inferior to other quality topicals.