Which cycle should be my first?

[Markywalberg]

To start this will be my first cycle ever so im trying to see good gains and avoid side effects gyno being one of them. To start im 25 and have been working out for many years pretty hard the last year and did a decent bulking phase and now am finishing up a cutting phase and im ready to bulk again. At the moment im 5,9 and 180lbs and looking to gain more muscle
CYCLE WEEKS

T.ENANTHATE DECA PROVIRON 20mg tab
Tamoxifene 20mgtab
Clomiphene 50mgtab

1 250 MG 200mg
2 500 MG 400mg
3 500 MG 400mg 1Tab/daily proviron 25mg
4 500 MG 200mg 1Tab/daily tamoxifene 20mg
5 500 MG 200mg 1Tab/daily proviron 25mg
6 500 MG 200mg 1Tab/daily tamoxifene 20mg
7 500 MG 200mg 1Tab/daily proviron 25mg
8 500 MG 200mg 1Tab/daily tamoxifene 20mg
9
10
11 1Tab/daily clomiphene 50mg
12 1Tab/daily clomiphene 50mg


thats cycle one which i think would be strong and maybe alot for a first time cycle and here is cycle 2 that im thinking about and its all oral.
Week Dianabol Tamoxifen Clomid
1 3 tabs 30 mg / day dianabol
2 3 tabs 30 mg / day dianabol
3 3 tabs 30 mg / day dianabol 1 tab 10 mg/ day tamoxifen
4 3 tabs 30 mg / day dianabol 1 tab 10 mg/ day tamoxifen
5 3 tabs 30 mg / day dianabol 1 tab 10 mg/ day tamoxifen
6 3 tabs 30 mg / day dianabol 1 tab 10 mg/ day tamoxifen
7 1 tab 50 mg/ day clomid
8 1 tab 50 mg/ day clomid
I think this is a safer first cycle but im worried it will be really weak with dianabol and since its oral. I definately wanna see good gains over 8 weeks probably 10-20 lbs of muscle and idk if i can get that with cycle 2 any input or help is appreciated. also if u pm me i could tell u were im getting the cycles from so maybe you could see what else could be better

 

[Reps For Jesus]

Age, Height, and Weight brah

 

[stevesmi]

whoever put you on that cycle should be hung by their balls.

looks like something you got off dan duchaine's site or some shit. 1 compound only and I don't care how many SERM's you include its not going to do anything for you when your dick stops working taking an anti fertility compound

 

[EZ_E]

A or B??? Hmmm, neither.

But you're in the right place for a good set up...

BUT "working out pretty hard for the last year" should say "busting ass for the last 3...." then you can run a cycle

 

[Markywalberg]

ya starting to get the idea that these arent good cycles these are suggestions from an online source with the whole cycle for sale seemed nice to go to one place and they have the whole cycle already laid out and ready to go. Obviously to good to be true on this one. Appreciate the imput to help me from making a mistake and having a horrible first cycle.Since both of these are bad do you have any suggestions on a simple first cycle and what that would look like? Obviously been doing alot of reading but dam alot different views on cycles out there im just trying to nail down a simple one to start with

 

[gymrat827]

how about 500mg of tes E for 12wks. ???

clomid/hcgenerate/liquidex/DAA for pct.

Liquidex while on cycle to combat estrogen. N2gaurd to keep your organs in good shape.

 

[RickRock13]

A simple cycle of Test only at 500mg per week for 12 weeks is plenty for a first cycle. Most people will get crazy gains off of that alone for their first, as long as they are eating and training for growth

 

[dylangemelli]

here is an excellent beginner cycle... test and sarms...

1-12 test cyp 350-500 mg week
1-14 "liquidex" n2bm.com
1-14 gw-501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-12 s4 50 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
5-12 hcgenerate es Bodybuilding, Need to Build Muscle, Muscle Bodybuilding
13-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
phytoserms Ruthless Supplements
aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com
n2guard n2bm.com
ostarine 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators