Which body type responds best to gear?

[Wax-on]

Amoungst the people you know who use gear what body type do you believe responds best to AAS?
Make it a given that the cycle would be the same and each was eating the appropriate meals / diet for each type.

Ectomorphs?
Mesomorphs?
Endomorphs?

 

[bigmodean]

Amoungst the people you know who use gear what body type do you believe responds best to AAS?
Make it a given that the cycle would be the same and each was eating the appropriate meals / diet for each type.

Ectomorphs?
Mesomorphs?
Endomorphs?

I dont know what those things are,call me stupid.Are these body types?I would like to see by size or height who makes the best gains.

 

[sd27bb]

Amoungst the people you know who use gear what body type do you believe responds best to AAS?
Make it a given that the cycle would be the same and each was eating the appropriate meals / diet for each type.

Ectomorphs?
Mesomorphs?
Endomorphs?

Meso responds best to everything

 

[52_21_30]

The body type that trains right and diets will respond best to aas.

 

[mgoblue4you]

Meso responds best to everything

That has been my experience. I had great genetics as a natural and fortunately seem to respond very well to gear as well.

Not sure that this is always the case (Lou Ferrigno?), but most of the pros were way above average before they ever touched gear...

 

[solidspine]

There is a little more to it than just body type.

 

[rockabilly]

It is 90% bodytype and genetics, 5% workouts, 5% diet

 

[muscleup]

The type that stays on year round and eats and trains like a motherfucker....there ya have it.

 

[mr.nitro]

It is 90% bodytype and genetics, 5% workouts, 5% diet

id give a little more credit to diet. at least 30%.

im not sure off the top of my head what type is which, but I would say the skinny guys react best.

 

[jacshelb]

Look at it this way: Mesomorphs have more muscle fibers to start with- generally lower insertions and fuller muscle bellies etc. So, with aas increasing hypertrophy/nutrient storage, and even a little sattelite cell activation, they will SEEM to respond the best. Especially if bodyfat is relatively low. Is there actually more muscle gain or does it just appear that way? I would say yes there is more growth. I mean, if there are more muscle fibers to begin with, then there is that much more potential for nutrient uptake. However, the low bodyfat and natural advantages will magnify the effect and make it seem even more dramatic for mesomorphs.

But, the addition of excess testosterone (if estrogen is controlled) can really help to cut fat in endomorphs. And, of course, ectomorphs are going to start looking a lot more mesomorphic after using- though it might be a long time before anyone even assumes they are on anything.

I'm an ecto myself. Most just think I'm kinda built- that I always have been. I'm not huge, so people who don't know me just think I'm kinda average looking. I'm 6'2", 220 and around 12-13% right now. What they don't know is that 5 years ago I weighed 142 lbs. and looked sickly. I only do short (4-7 week cycles), low dose (500mg/week aprox.) cycles with gains I can maintain. I started using when I weighed 185 lbs, so I'd already gained 40 something lbs. But, overall have put on 80 fairly clean lbs. as an ecto.


Jacob

 

[rockabilly]

iacshelb, I also am an ectomorph. Have done short low dose cycles, to no avail. Ate heavy and only put on belly fat. Pm me if you have any suggestions

 

[Wax-on]

The body type that trains right and diets will respond best to aas.

And given that all 3 body types are doing the above like the original question stated?

Look at it this way: Mesomorphs have more muscle fibers to start with- generally lower insertions and fuller muscle bellies etc. So, with aas increasing hypertrophy/nutrient storage, and even a little sattelite cell activation, they will SEEM to respond the best. Especially if bodyfat is relatively low. Is there actually more muscle gain or does it just appear that way? I would say yes there is more growth. I mean, if there are more muscle fibers to begin with, then there is that much more potential for nutrient uptake. However, the low bodyfat and natural advantages will magnify the effect and make it seem even more dramatic for mesomorphs.

But, the addition of excess testosterone (if estrogen is controlled) can really help to cut fat in endomorphs. And, of course, ectomorphs are going to start looking a lot more mesomorphic after using- though it might be a long time before anyone even assumes they are on anything.

I'm an ecto myself. Most just think I'm kinda built- that I always have been. I'm not huge, so people who don't know me just think I'm kinda average looking. I'm 6'2", 220 and around 12-13% right now. What they don't know is that 5 years ago I weighed 142 lbs. and looked sickly. I only do short (4-7 week cycles), low dose (500mg/week aprox.) cycles with gains I can maintain. I started using when I weighed 185 lbs, so I'd already gained 40 something lbs. But, overall have put on 80 fairly clean lbs. as an ecto.


Jacob

Thanks for the response.

 

[DJ_UFO]

seems like mesos develop muscle mass easier, while echtos are hard gainers. At the end, whatever is the body type, genetics of each type is the key factor. IMO a well developed echto looks better than a well developed meso. for example, Arnold, Lou Ferrigno, both echtos

 

[OMEGA]

if an endo can cotroll Diet and the BIG E ( estrogen) they will be WAY bigger then any Meso

but I am biased

 

[ProtienFiend]

Endo's will usually grow bigger fuller muscles, but ectos will typically look better, as typically less fat is stored. And everyone else is also right about, it is what you make of it. (diet cardio etc...)

 

[Wax-on]

Endo's will usually grow bigger fuller muscles, but ectos will typically look better, as typically less fat is stored. And everyone else is also right about, it is what you make of it. (diet cardio etc...)

Deit as stated is a given. Just curious as to what everybody though considering all 3 types have diet, cardio, and training in check.

 

[sd27bb]

It is 90% bodytype and genetics, 5% workouts, 5% diet

I dont think so man. Look at Lue Ferigno. I would say its 50% diet, 40% training/resting, 10% genetics. I know some geneticly gifted who have not amounted to much, i also know some who have much less then even good genetics whose consistancy and detication took them much farther then those with superior genetics.

 

[OMEGA]

Protien Intake
Proper Training intensity and frequency
Endocrine manipulation ( AAS, Ai's)

 

[omega529]

i like to think
40% genetics, 30% diet, 20%training intensity (maybe more), 10% science

 

[Quadsweep]

id give a little more credit to diet. at least 30%.

im not sure off the top of my head what type is which, but I would say the skinny guys react best.

80% diet is more like it. You cannot build a house without bricks 2x4's concrete...ect. Gear and training are morter, glue, and nails that put it all together. A meso will always gain better than the other two. endos can put on a tremendous amount of muscle mass though. (think Worlds Strongest Man) Ectos will always struggle even with gear.

Quad

 

[ThepoolGuy]

How do you determine which one are you?

 

[ProtienFiend]

How do you determine which one are you?

Post a picture.

 

[ThepoolGuy]

I will after my cycle I promise. Im shedding fat right now lol.

 

[ProtienFiend]

I will after my cycle I promise. Im shedding fat right now lol.

Well my point was that its usually observable via a mirror. Also, shedding fat is usually an endo/meso problem, fyi.

 

[c3bodybuilding]

It doesn't matter the body type. It's the person who is willing AND able to give 110% to training, nutrition, rest and have every aspect from the huge to tiny covered. There are guys who have incredible genetics and take gear, get okay results, but have no heart in the gym. Then I see types that you wouldn't think much of, but they put their heart and soul into everything. They go at it in the gym like an animal. They carry that approach over to every other aspect of their life concerning bodybuilding. I see those people make *great* results.

You even see it in the pro ranks. Flex Wheeler could have beated Dorian and Ronnie. But while they busted their ass day in and day out with EVERYTHING, Flex would be on his contest diet drinking cokes and training on machines. Same thing with Kevin Levrone and many other pros.

In the end, I think as long as you have a pleasing shape and not a complete blocky (refrigerater look), and you have the means and are willing to make all the sacrifices, then that person can make tremendous gains, despite genetics.

 

[Muscle Overkill]

Genetics without diet eat= no gains
No genetics good diet=some gains

 

[bmcadoo44]

Can you tell me what each body type is.

A friend of mine was 260 pounds fat as hell. Now hes 200 at 11% so i dont get what exactly the body types mean and also how you react to gear.

 

[ProtienFiend]

well endos put on weight easy with more fat gain, and ectos need to eat more to put on weight, but usually with less fat gain. I think some of it has to do with protein synthesis as typically ectos are more efficient with that.

 

[solidspine]

I honestly think from a purely body building perspective, short guys have an advantage.

From a physical appearance stand point tall guys have the obvious advantage.


But I am short and thin (at the waist) and appear more muscular that friends who are much bigger and of course stronger.

If you have to be short, than certainly don’t be FAT, and be as muscular as physically, genetically possible and take as much gear as possible.

 

[envies]

The type that stays on year round and eats and trains like a motherfucker....there ya have it.

AMEN to that! I am thinking of staying on for much longer times...not all at high dosages of course, but i hate the yo yo effect..actually i hate the injections even more

 

[envies]

80% diet is more like it. You cannot build a house without bricks 2x4's concrete...ect. Gear and training are morter, glue, and nails that put it all together. A meso will always gain better than the other two. endos can put on a tremendous amount of muscle mass though. (think Worlds Strongest Man) Ectos will always struggle even with gear.

Quad

I agree, is Marius a meso or endo? or a mix of both?

 

[Wax-on]

I honestly think from a purely body building perspective, short guys have an advantage.

From a physical appearance stand point tall guys have the obvious advantage.


But I am short and thin (at the waist) and appear more muscular that friends who are much bigger and of course stronger.

If you have to be short, than certainly don’t be FAT, and be as muscular as physically, genetically possible and take as much gear as possible.

Dont you find that most shorter people (and you should define what you consider short) tend to be more 'stockie' being endoes or mesos?