Where have all the SERIOUS threads gone?

[BOWTECH]

It's a joke when someone puts up a thread and is asking for advice from experienced people and they get the same stupid responses. Guys if people are asking for help give them some real advice and keep the thread serious.

It's a shame a TRUE bodybuilding website is no longer with us. They did not tolerate childish behavior and stupidity. People ask for advice for a reason, we all have at one time or another. Let's try and keep it serious. Then again maybe Im just getting old and am done playing childish games.

Just something to think about.

 

[yourmomgoestocollege]

It's a joke when someone puts up a thread and is asking for advice from experienced people and they get the same stupid responses. Guys if people are asking for help give them some real advice and keep the thread serious.

It's a shame a TRUE bodybuilding website is no longer with us. They did not tolerate childish behavior and stupidity. People ask for advice for a reason, we all have at one time or another. Let's try and keep it serious. Then again maybe Im just getting old and am done playing childish games.

Just something to think about.

I bitched about this a month or so ago and had a mixed response. Most were mature and had pointed arguments, while others were simply jack asses.

Good points bro!

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Got links ?

 

[perryscoon]

I agree. Noob bashing isn't cool. As long as the thread is serious, I'll be serious when I comment.

 

[GUARDIAN]

U have a point but I think some humor is important. its what helps keep this place great. as long as there are several serious repies to a question then i dont c the harm.

 

[BOWTECH]

Got links ?

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/anavar-vs-oral-turinabol-561142.html
Here is one for you. Im not trying to be an ass but I thought it was supposed to be a serious poll and even in the first page of the thread it starts getting ignorant and by the second and third page it's even worse. I stoped there I didn't even read anymore.

I understand people like to goof around and that's fine but there are different forums for that. There were some good replies but it always seems to go way off track. The vet's put in some good info but you always have the clowns that have absolutely nothing to add.

BRR im not trying to start drama but I hope some can see the point Im trying to make.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/anavar-vs-oral-turinabol-561142.html
Here is one for you. Im not trying to be an ass but I thought it was supposed to be a serious poll and even in the first page of the thread it starts getting ignorant and by the second and third page it's even worse. I stoped there I didn't even read anymore.

I understand people like to goof around and that's fine but there are different forums for that. There were some good replies but it always seems to go way off track. The vet's put in some good info but you always have the clowns that have absolutely nothing to add.

BRR im not trying to start drama but I hope some can see the point Im trying to make.

I agree with some of what you are saying... I don't mind a some levity as long as its done with some taste and in the appropriate threads...

 

[SaladFork]

It sucks when people come asking questions and want to learn about this stuff and people flame the crap out of them. I was well received my first post since I think I was listening to everyone and had not already pinned myself and came here asking WTF a PST is. Everyone is new at something at some point.

That is why we have places like this we can come ask questions, make online friends and learn some good info. I just wish every newb would consider doing some research before pinning. But really it’s no different at bb.com or the other forums for that matter. Some people are going to flame and rip on you no matter what you say or do. I’m here to learn about AAS, but if I make some friends along the way, awesome, if not oh well!

 

[GUARDIAN]

It sucks when people come asking questions and want to learn about this stuff and people flame the crap out of them. I was well received my first post since I think I was listening to everyone and had not already pinned myself and came here asking WTF a PST is. Everyone is new at something at some point.

That is why we have places like this we can come ask questions, make online friends and learn some good info. I just wish every newb would consider doing some research before pinning. But really it’s no different at bb.com or the other forums for that matter. Some people are going to flame and rip on you no matter what you say or do. I’m here to learn about anabolic androgenic steroids, but if I make some friends along the way, awesome, if not oh well!

This is the right approach imo. Learn what you came here to learn and hopefully if all goes well you will befriend some good bros but if not no skin off your nose. Hey that just leaves more time for you in the gym, right?

 

[BOWTECH]

There are some very knowledgeable people here on EF. It's truly a pleasure when you can have a serious discussion on things and learn something new that may assit you in your goals. I agree people do need to do reasearch before even considering using.

The bodybuilding community has taken some hard knocks in the past so we need to stick together and try and help each other out as much as possible. We know the MEDIA won't aid us in that at all! I love when they get on TV and talk out there ass when they have know idea what they are even talking about.

 

[GUARDIAN]

There are some very knowledgeable people here on EF. It's truly a pleasure when you can have a serious discussion on things and learn something new that may assit you in your goals. I agree people do need to do reasearch before even considering using.

The bodybuilding community has taken some hard knocks in the past so we need to stick together and try and help each other out as much as possible. We know the MEDIA won't aid us in that at all! I love when they get on TV and talk out there ass when they have know idea what they are even talking about.

Another great thread Bow! Serves to remind us of why we are here.

 

[bluejay]

I agree... no need for all the stupid flaming. We were all in their shoes once...

 

[centy]

Agreed. Go to bb.com for a minute. Read the troll/flamefest going on there. This place is an order of magnitude better.

 

[eddymerckx]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/anavar-vs-oral-turinabol-561142.html
Here is one for you. Im not trying to be an ass but I thought it was supposed to be a serious poll and even in the first page of the thread it starts getting ignorant and by the second and third page it's even worse. I stoped there I didn't even read anymore.

I understand people like to goof around and that's fine but there are different forums for that. There were some good replies but it always seems to go way off track. The vet's put in some good info but you always have the clowns that have absolutely nothing to add.

BRR im not trying to start drama but I hope some can see the point Im trying to make.

i agree there was some off track stuff on the first page or so, but it was just two bros messing around a 3am--it gets back on track and is still a somewhat useful thread on a topic that i think many bros either wonder about or know about--

i agree it should be topic driven and flames at a minumum, but just like any conversation--sometimes it gets off track but it is often people building a sense of rapport with each other--it is a "community" after all--and put any group of guys together--and i am a tax lawyer--and stupid/off topic shit always happens on some level


and in the vein of going off topic--can't wait for needto's cookbook

 

[perryscoon]

Agreed. Go to bb.com for a minute. Read the troll/flamefest going on there. This place is an order of magnitude better.

bb.com is a douchbag noob fest. I went there a couple times and it appeared to be nothing but a bunch of 16 year olds bickering back and forth so i never went back. Not to mention the morons I see walking around my gym with bb.com shirts on.

 

[OMEGA]

never though I woudl say this but BB.com is rough these days

hard to participate

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/anavar-vs-oral-turinabol-561142.html
Here is one for you. Im not trying to be an ass but I thought it was supposed to be a serious poll and even in the first page of the thread it starts getting ignorant and by the second and third page it's even worse. I stoped there I didn't even read anymore.

I understand people like to goof around and that's fine but there are different forums for that. There were some good replies but it always seems to go way off track. The vet's put in some good info but you always have the clowns that have absolutely nothing to add.

BRR im not trying to start drama but I hope some can see the point Im trying to make.

c'mon man these guys are good bros and give great advice. a little humor makes these long ass threads worth reading sometimes.

HUMOR is good. if we are to do away with funny reponses then we have to do away with blue babies with devil horn avatars too.

humor is part of somepeoples personas and it is nice.

deal with it man or move on bro. Not flaming you but seriously ewe cant be serious all the time.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

I agree with this. When I noob comes here asking a question we need to answer it but on the same hand if theey do something stupid then it needs to be pointed out then handled with the right advice.

It sucks when people come asking questions and want to learn about this stuff and people flame the crap out of them. I was well received my first post since I think I was listening to everyone and had not already pinned myself and came here asking WTF a PST is. Everyone is new at something at some point.

That is why we have places like this we can come ask questions, make online friends and learn some good info. I just wish every newb would consider doing some research before pinning. But really it’s no different at bb.com or the other forums for that matter. Some people are going to flame and rip on you no matter what you say or do. I’m here to learn about anabolic androgenic steroids, but if I make some friends along the way, awesome, if not oh well!

 

[hurricane]

been to boards where people attack and give stupid advice to every question a new guy asks .. this board is fine .. great answers 99% of the time with a little added humor every now and then when things get dull.. i hardly ever see harmful advice givin here .. which is more important

 

[NYBodyguard]

I hang out at many boards by far there is less BS here then anywhere else been here a long time

 

[hesnobradpitt]

i agree there was some off track stuff on the first page or so, but it was just two bros messing around a 3am--it gets back on track and is still a somewhat useful thread on a topic that i think many bros either wonder about or know about--

i agree it should be topic driven and flames at a minumum, but just like any conversation--sometimes it gets off track but it is often people building a sense of rapport with each other--it is a "community" after all--and put any group of guys together--and i am a tax lawyer--and stupid/off topic shit always happens on some level


and in the vein of going off topic--can't wait for needto's cookbook

Yeah i agree i dont mind some personality to posts as long as the post gets answered .

Brad.

 

[jumpmaster82]

newbie bashing is not cool, even if someone asks an absurd question ill tell them how absurd it is and give them some advice but wont flame them and make them feel dumb. but as far as "true" bb sites go, EF is the best one ive been apart of, and ive been apart of many.
humor is good to keep things light, as long as aside from the humor your giving sound advice to.

 

[BOWTECH]

c'mon man these guys are good bros and give great advice. a little humor makes these long ass threads worth reading sometimes.

HUMOR is good. if we are to do away with funny reponses then we have to do away with blue babies with devil horn avatars too.

humor is part of somepeoples personas and it is nice.

deal with it man or move on bro. Not flaming you but seriously ewe cant be serious all the time.

I agee some humor is ok but when it comes to anabolic androgenic steroids use joking is not an option. What if a newbie takes something the vets know is a joke and do themselves harm. That's all Im saying. I do like joking around but not when it come to something as serious as anabolic androgenic steroids use.

I've see some horror stories from some guys personally because they were told to run some insane doseage because they were told the more the better. That's just the point Im trying to make. There are those people out there that will take someones word as the "gospel" and could really do harm to themselves.

I just find it funny when I guy's 6' tall and a beanpole and is giving advice on how many cycles he's done and look what its done for him. C'mon use some common sense. These are peoples lives.

 

[Swtrue]

I agee some humor is ok but when it comes to anabolic androgenic steroids use joking is not an option. What if a newbie takes something the vets know is a joke and do themselves harm. That's all Im saying. I do like joking around but not when it come to something as serious as anabolic androgenic steroids use.

I've see some horror stories from some guys personally because they were told to run some insane doseage because they were told the more the better. That's just the point Im trying to make. There are those people out there that will take someones word as the "gospel" and could really do harm to themselves.

I just find it funny when I guy's 6' tall and a beanpole and is giving advice on how many cycles he's done and look what its done for him. C'mon use some common sense. These are peoples lives.

Good thread Bowtech. I agree 100% with you on the joking and the flaming. Also some contridict everything just to keep a thread going. I know the bro's that I have talked to are solid and I usually check out their post to see their credibility. As you said some newbies take everything as the gospel without research. Again, Great post Bro !!!

Swtrue

 

[02gixxersix]

I think this is one site where there should be no noob bashing because most of us can't search. Now if there is a thread answering their question 3 threads down from where they posted, some bashing may be required. All in all the board is here as an education tool.

 

[Wrongun]

I agee some humor is ok but when it comes to anabolic androgenic steroids use joking is not an option. What if a newbie takes something the vets know is a joke and do themselves harm. That's all Im saying. I do like joking around but not when it come to something as serious as anabolic androgenic steroids use.

I've see some horror stories from some guys personally because they were told to run some insane doseage because they were told the more the better. That's just the point Im trying to make. There are those people out there that will take someones word as the "gospel" and could really do harm to themselves.

I just find it funny when I guy's 6' tall and a beanpole and is giving advice on how many cycles he's done and look what its done for him. C'mon use some common sense. These are peoples lives.

Well said. There is a C7C forum for ''messing around''

Wrongun!

 

[eddymerckx]

I agee some humor is ok but when it comes to anabolic androgenic steroids use joking is not an option. What if a newbie takes something the vets know is a joke and do themselves harm. That's all Im saying. I do like joking around but not when it come to something as serious as anabolic androgenic steroids use.

I've see some horror stories from some guys personally because they were told to run some insane doseage because they were told the more the better. That's just the point Im trying to make. There are those people out there that will take someones word as the "gospel" and could really do harm to themselves.

I just find it funny when I guy's 6' tall and a beanpole and is giving advice on how many cycles he's done and look what its done for him. C'mon use some common sense. These are peoples lives.

i agree--the advice needs to be solid--and i think it usually is b/c the off-the-wall stuff gets caught. i gave some shit advice one time b/c i misread the post--3 bros were like "wtf"--i think we have decent self correcting system here.

on another note, i wish i was a 6' beanpole--instead i have a choice to lift and do lots of cardio or be a fat load--damn genetics

 

[lartinos]

it has always been part of this board, atleast since 03 i can say. I see nothing wrong with the joking around. The board is has become much more entertainment than actual learning though in general. For example there wasn't a day people wouldn't argue with nelson's theories if AAS. Now most people just except what he says as fact.

 

[OMEGA]

I hang out at many boards by far there is less BS here then anywhere else been here a long time

yep


also Elite just has a great flow to it.

i think its the best

 

[needtogetaas]

It's a joke when someone puts up a thread and is asking for advice from experienced people and they get the same stupid responses. Guys if people are asking for help give them some real advice and keep the thread serious.

It's a shame a TRUE bodybuilding website is no longer with us. They did not tolerate childish behavior and stupidity. People ask for advice for a reason, we all have at one time or another. Let's try and keep it serious. Then again maybe Im just getting old and am done playing childish games.

Just something to think about.

Your fucking kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!. This is a slap in the face to all of us right now mods getting the biggest slap. We work our asses of for this board giving out the best advice you can get. You saying good advice is no longer here on ef is a joke. Its here bro. Wtf are you talking about.

There is always going to be different types of advice on all boards big damn deal. But we stick together and get the job don around here. We are a family to say the fucking least. I stick up for all of us right now.

 

[needtogetaas]

Got links ?

Right!!!!

 

[needtogetaas]

I agree. Noob bashing isn't cool. As long as the thread is serious, I'll be serious when I comment.

As we all should

 

[needtogetaas]

U have a point but I think some humor is important. its what helps keep this place great. as long as there are several serious repies to a question then i dont c the harm.

we all need some fun here and there.

 

[needtogetaas]

You take a thread or to and make a big deal. Its a thread or to bro. Look around you. The aas board has a helping hand feel to it more then it ever has.

 

[eddymerckx]

You take a thread or to and make a big deal. Its a thread or to bro. Look around you. The anabolic androgenic steroids board has a helping hand feel to it more then it ever has.

and the mods^^^, elite mentors, and vets are the ones leading it-- i see a difference and i have only been here for 5 months. props to them

 

[needtogetaas]

and the mods^^^, elite mentors, and vets are the ones leading it-- i see a difference and i have only been here for 5 months. props to them

The leaders right now have a heart to help. Money drives things but not for me. Fuck off people if you think I only care about money. I have been here on this aas board for over a year helping out for nothing and chump change. I would do the same for life to. Mods like mava aap and samoth will never make money yet they are here for you all the time. I mean shit you got the best on this site.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

The leaders right now have a heart to help. Money drives things but not for me. Fuck off people if you think I only care about money. I have been here on this anabolic androgenic steroids board for over a year helping out for nothing and chump change. I would do the same for life to. Mods like mava aap and samoth will never make money yet they are here for you all the time. I mean shit you got the best on this site.

I totally agree its a great time for this forum .

Brad.

 

[BOWTECH]

The leaders right now have a heart to help. Money drives things but not for me. Fuck off people if you think I only care about money. I have been here on this anabolic androgenic steroids board for over a year helping out for nothing and chump change. I would do the same for life to. Mods like mava aap and samoth will never make money yet they are here for you all the time. I mean shit you got the best on this site.

I gave BRR a link. And there is more than just one I agree it's alot better now than it's ever been. We do have good mods it's not a personal assault at all. All im saying is that there is a time and place for jokes, and goofing around and it's not in a anabolic androgenic steroids thread.

You have young guys that have done little or no research and may hear something that we all know is a joke and take it seriously. I just dont find when you are putting something as serious as AAS in your body something to joke around with.

Im not stirring up problems just stating a point. If it's such a problem I will no longer be a part here at EF.

 

[Wrongun]

Your fucking kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!. This is a slap in the face to all of us right now mods getting the biggest slap. We work our asses of for this board giving out the best advice you can get. You saying good advice is no longer here on ef is a joke. Its here bro. Wtf are you talking about.

There is always going to be different types of advice on all boards big damn deal. But we stick together and get the job don around here. We are a family to say the fucking least. I stick up for all of us right now.

You have got the wrong end of the stick as he was not criticising the Mods, Admin or mentors but was makiing a generalisation that some members (some with high post counts) do not issue information they could but simply wish to reply with the standard ''do a search'', ''do some research'', or the old you have not researched so why contemplate taking AAS.

Elite is where you come to research and as part of the membership we should IMHO encourage questions being asked. If you know the answer then tell them why put them off with the standard response as it assists no one.

For example here are two recently

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/ok-mix-enanthate-cypionate-580012.html

He got this reply

‘’ if you did your research you would know that it is totally fine to do so’’

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/tabs-569879.html

He got this reply

‘’try doing some research’’


Then this because he only wanted an answer

‘’to the original poster : this thread was FWD'd to BRR and AAP I suggest you edit your classless post If you wish to continue your membership on this board’’


This is the kind of attitudes i think you will find Bowtorch referring too. People see the AAS forum as serious due to the subject we discuss and surely we should all help each other.

I do not think he was criticizing anyone in particular just as generalisation in an attempt to get everyone to assist.

Wrongun!

 

[hurricane]

lol dam guys relax..no need to argue ..every site u goto got good and bad seeds .. everywhere u go in life there is gonna be good and bad also.. having been a part of different sites since around 2002 i can say this site has best percentage of good bros i have ever seen around easy .. no place will ever be perfect .. i am very thankful i found this site .. .. Enjoy all the good stuff going on around here , instead of letting the very little bad get u down ..

 

[needtogetaas]

You have got the wrong end of the stick as he was not criticising the Mods, Admin or mentors but was makiing a generalisation that some members (some with high post counts) do not issue information they could but simply wish to reply with the standard ''do a search'', ''do some research'', or the old you have not researched so why contemplate taking anabolic androgenic steroids.

Elite is where you come to research and as part of the membership we should IMHO encourage questions being asked. If you know the answer then tell them why put them off with the standard response as it assists no one.

For example here are two recently

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/ok-mix-enanthate-cypionate-580012.html

He got this reply

‘’ if you did your research you would know that it is totally fine to do so’’

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/tabs-569879.html

He got this reply

‘’try doing some research’’


Then this because he only wanted an answer

‘’to the original poster : this thread was FWD'd to BRR and AAP I suggest you edit your classless post If you wish to continue your membership on this board’’


This is the kind of attitudes i think you will find Bowtorch referring too. People see the AAS forum as serious due to the subject we discuss and surely we should all help each other.

I do not think he was criticizing anyone in particular just as generalisation in an attempt to get everyone to assist.

Wrongun!

Well some one is almost always there to help.... Some people do it different then others. The job gets don all the time though.

 

[galaxy]

Trust me some vets know nothing and give out horrible advice. Myself included.

If your listening to anything someone has to say on a chat forum then you really need to take a good hard look in the mirror.

Just take it all with a grain of salt. Most information can be found using the search engine or just going back through old threads.

 

[OMEGA]

love the board and make it better

if you want to improve it tie your boot straps and hop on!



love and make it better!

 

[Wrongun]

Well some one is almost always there to help.... Some people do it different then others. The job gets don all the time though.

As i said no one is criticizing anyone in particular or was he attempting to discredit the board. I have been here for over 7 years now and seen so many changes but as with any business its not perfect or can it ever be.

The board & particularly this forum has changed from being a very scientific discussion place to one that is far more general WHICH IS GOOD, as previously many would not open their mind to new ideas because there were certain studies completed on rats 15 years ago that seemed to prove wrong. Without that discussion we would all still be using RU486, have no PCT and pyramidding cycles.

It was only about 12 months ago Nelson felt the need to leave the board as he was simply not given the chance to express his views which now people have healthy debate about.

The whole discussion topic of AAS is very subjective i.e. what works for me may not work for you so its imperative an open mind is kept.

So as per the examples you demanded you will see that some simply use the old ''do a search'' or react very poorly when a theory is challenged for discussion.

If every new member had to do a search and would not ask questions due to the inevitable ''flame'' then their total research would accumulate in the answers that remained on the board from sometime ago i.e. RU486 etc

So NO ONE is criticizing anyone it was a reminder that we all started somewhere and the way we will keep learning is by keep debating. By doing that we can also benefit people just starting on AAS with the knowledge we have gained.

Hope that explains and you are obviously very passionate about the board which is great as previous Mods such as Mustang18, E2, The Ranger etc etc were also and all did a great job but its not only the Mods that make a board its the majority i.e. the members which the thread was trying to encourage them to assist and not just dismiss with ''do a search'' or make fun of the question.

All like humor and it helps the board go well

Wrongun!

 

[GUARDIAN]

love the board and make it better

if you want to improve it tie your boot straps and hop on!



love and make it better!

AMEN! Let's start with everyone on this thread and help make it better.

 

[Wrongun]

AMEN! Let's start with everyone on this thread and help make it better.

Can't say more than that good call

Wrongun!

 

[hurricane]

love the board and make it better

if you want to improve it tie your boot straps and hop on!



love and make it better!

lmfaoooooo