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Dad upset at kid's xbox obsession (I guess he rather be outside hanging with gangs like in la).

He takes his xbox. Soccer Parents around the world applaud! Taking away xbox's is all the rage!

Kid runs away. Now he's been missing for 9 days and family is crying.

Well done super dad. Pack his knapsack again next time.

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"I told him he wouldn't be getting his Xbox back. He said, `Then I'm going to leave home.'"

Steve called his son's bluff and even helped him pack his knapsack.

"I really thought he would be home later that day with his tail between his legs," said Steve, who remembers running away from home once when he was a boy.


ParentCentral.ca - News & Features - Family fears boy lured by gamers

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Dad upset at kid's xbox obsession (I guess he rather be outside hanging with gangs like in la).

He takes his xbox. Soccer Parents around the world applaud! Taking away xbox's is all the rage!

Kid runs away. Now he's been missing for 9 days and family is crying.

Well done super dad. Pack his knapsack again next time.

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"I told him he wouldn't be getting his Xbox back. He said, `Then I'm going to leave home.'"

Steve called his son's bluff and even helped him pack his knapsack.

"I really thought he would be home later that day with his tail between his legs," said Steve, who remembers running away from home once when he was a boy.


ParentCentral.ca - News & Features - Family fears boy lured by gamers

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I bet he'll be home in time for your clan's capture-the-flag match tonight.
 
lol uh, the dad did the right thing. Your the parent, you can't let your child threaten you into not punishing them. If the kid - the tenth grader - ran away as a result, that sucks balls, but if his dad had given into the threat he would have lost all authority as the parent. Clearly, if the boy ran away because of his xbox, he NEEDED to have that thing taken from him. Unfortunate incident, but dad's not to blame.
 
if his dad had given into the threat he would have lost all authority as the parent.

And the kid would be sleeping in his bed right now.

I'm sure in 20 years the dad will be looking back as a good thing that he took away the xbox and packing his clothes. Who cares if the kid dies, it's about the message people, the message!

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And the kid would be sleeping in his bed right now.

I'm sure in 20 years the dad will be looking back as a good thing that he took away the xbox and packing his clothes. Who cares if the kid dies, it's about the message people, the message!

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Unfortunate incident, but dad's not to blame. he did the right thing as a parent and his child is just a little dumb shit. He's in tenth grade, for god's sake - he's not a little boy. As i said, if he ran away over an xbox, then he absolutely NEEDED to have it taken away.
 
Unfortunate incident, but dad's not to blame. he did the right thing as a parent and his child is just a little dumb shit. He's in tenth grade, for god's sake - he's not a little boy. As i said, if he ran away over an xbox, then he absolutely NEEDED to have it taken away.

Yeah blame the kid supermom!

I'm sure his wife is hugging her husband tonight going "It's okay dear. You did the right thing. He's just a stupid kid and things happen. Go to sleep hon".

Yep!

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I'm going to generalize why your way of thinking in my opinion is wrong.

People in todays society dont have the balls to do what is right for fear of what might happen.

He did the right thing, does it suck, yes but without structure and guidance his kid is more likely to end up in one of those gangs.


Yeah blame the kid supermom!

I'm sure his wife is hugging her husband tonight going "It's okay dear. You did the right thing. He's just a stupid kid and things happen. Go to sleep hon".

Yep!

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Yeah blame the kid supermom!

I'm sure his wife is hugging her husband tonight going "It's okay dear. You did the right thing. He's just a stupid kid and things happen. Go to sleep hon".

Yep!

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lol...yes, I'm blaming the kid. he's 15 and made a shitty choice. No, that doesn't make it less sad. But yes - he's a spoiled little shit who absolutely needed that thing taken from him. There were plenty of times i told my parents, even in high school, "I'll hate you forever if..." or "I'll run away if..." Kids do that. You have to be the parent.

I had a friend "run away" to my house once because she got into a fight with her mother.

Blaming the father for not giving in is pure stupidity.
 
lol uh, the dad did the right thing. Your the parent, you can't let your child threaten you into not punishing them. If the kid - the tenth grader - ran away as a result, that sucks balls, but if his dad had given into the threat he would have lost all authority as the parent. Clearly, if the boy ran away because of his xbox, he needed to have that thing taken from him. Unfortunate incident, but dad's not to blame.

+1
 
I'm going to generalize why your way of thinking in my opinion is wrong.

People in todays society dont have the balls to do what is right for fear of what might happen.

He did the right thing, does it suck, yes but without structure and guidance his kid is more likely to end up in one of those gangs.
+1 to you and Nef.

Parents are chickenshit of giving their children any form of discipline anymore, consequently kids grow up thinking the world owes them everything and should kiss their asses to boot. It's as much a parental failure to be too lenient as it is to be too strict.

Unfortunately, in this parents case, it's probably too little, too late and applied at the wrong time. He should never have given the kid the fucking Xbox to begin with (I fucking hate video games).
 
Kid's a pussy cry baby.

I'd kick him in the ass for being disobedient and lazy sitting in front of the damn tv 4 hours a day playing video games.


Yeah, the kid took off and now he's missing. That is really unfortunate. But, the kid was just being a baby. It's not his dad's fault he wants to cry about his video game being taken away and then run away.

Yeah, if he ends up dead or hurt badly, the dad will feel guilty and regret taking it from him. I would have done the same thing though. I'm not going to let my kid waste his life playing nintendo games all day. I have family members that do that, and they're lives are less than ideal.

The kids actions (leaving) are irrational and pathetic.
 
Its hard being a parent of a teen I imagine....

I'm scared as hell!

But...being a teen is hard too...I remember..the world hates you. Look at how people talk about teens in this thread.

Teens know that teachers, cops, parents, security guards, retail workers, movie theatres, mall shoppers, pretty much everyone hates them.

The teen ran away because thats the only way he can show his frustration. Much like the lonley wife who picks up and leaves her husband at the drop of a hat , every time he goes out with his buddies or whatever.

The kid will be back and look back and cringe at his foolish behavior

And hope his own kids never find out . lol
 
lol...yes, I'm blaming the kid. he's 15 and made a shitty choice. No, that doesn't make it less sad. But yes - he's a spoiled little shit who absolutely needed that thing taken from him. There were plenty of times i told my parents, even in high school, "I'll hate you forever if..." or "I'll run away if..." Kids do that. You have to be the parent.

I had a friend "run away" to my house once because she got into a fight with her mother.

Blaming the father for not giving in is pure stupidity.
absolutely.
 
absolutely.

+1.

The kid is probably at one of his gamer nerd friends' houses playing Xbox and laughing at all the attention he's getting. If it happens to be a pedo house then too bad.

Back at the start the parents should have set limits on the amount of playing time and been watching his online activity.
 
This never would have happened if the kid would have gotten his ass kicked a few times earlier in life....

Exactly, we don't know all the circumstances, however this is what you get when you don't show children there are CONSEQUENCES!
Kids need structure and they need boundries. If you let children run a muck than guess what you have? Shit heads. If you don't like it that is fine. I have seen parents who don't teach children about consequences and this is generally the pattern. I don't mean beating your kids I just mean they have to learn to think for themselves about their choices and actions.
 
Yes Nerf.

Kids have babies in high school, join gangs, do drugs, commit crimes, drop out - hey it's ALWAYS the kids fault. Never the parents!

I'm sure supermom and dad have the rest of their lives to think about what strong parenting skills they showed off and how stupid their kid was. Dad helped him run away - THAT'LL teach the little fucker!

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Yes Nerf.

Kids have babies in high school, join gangs, do drugs, commit crimes, drop out - hey it's ALWAYS the kids fault. Never the parents!

I'm sure supermom and dad have the rest of their lives to think about what strong parenting skills they showed off and how stupid their kid was. Dad helped him run away - THAT'LL teach the little fucker!

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Dude, what the fuck happened to you when you were a kid that has made you so miserable?
 
Yeah blame the kid supermom!

I'm sure his wife is hugging her husband tonight going "It's okay dear. You did the right thing. He's just a stupid kid and things happen. Go to sleep hon".

Yep!

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Sucking dicks for his Xbox fix will do him good.

Think the parents check on line to see if he is somewhere playing the Xbox? Bet he is.
 
When we were told to stop playing Nintendo when we were kids, we'd simply go outside and play.

I never understood how playing video games all day is more exciting than, like, you know, the entire world and stuff.



:cow:
 
When we were told to stop playing Nintendo when we were kids, we'd simply go outside and play.

I never understood how playing video games all day is more exciting than, like, you know, the entire world and stuff.



:cow:

I think part of it is parents are to paraniod and try to keep the kids right around the house. When I was young they just said go outside and didn't really care whether I was seen for 3 or 4 hours at a time. Just need to show up for meal time.

Group think seems to be that there's a molester around every corner kidnapping kids. That just isn't true. Most kids are molested by someone they know. By the time I was in 10th grade I was probably 5' 11' 150 or so. That's big enough to get the hell away from people if I needed to. In fact I did have to run for it a couple of times but of course the person coming after me had a good reason. LOL. They weren't out to have sex with me. More like struggle me or hand me over to the cops.
 
Yes Nerf.

Kids have babies in high school, join gangs, do drugs, commit crimes, drop out - hey it's ALWAYS the kids fault. Never the parents!

I'm sure supermom and dad have the rest of their lives to think about what strong parenting skills they showed off and how stupid their kid was. Dad helped him run away - THAT'LL teach the little fucker!

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That's relevant how????

This kid ran away....because of his xbox.

We're not talking about some deeply troubled kid who got into serious trouble. he played too many video games, dad put his foot down, he - FIFTEEN YEAR OLD perfectly capable of being held accountable for his own actions - RAN AWAY. Over an XBOX. Not drugs, not gangs, not crime...and did I say it's "always" the kids fault? No, don't think I did. I said in this case, yeah. he's a selfish little prick for putting his parents through that.

And why is this post addressed at me anyway? Did you notice that EVERYONE else in the thread agreed with me? Right, ok.
 
Yes Nerf.

Kids have babies in high school, join gangs, do drugs, commit crimes, drop out - hey it's ALWAYS the kids fault. Never the parents!

I'm sure supermom and dad have the rest of their lives to think about what strong parenting skills they showed off and how stupid their kid was. Dad helped him run away - THAT'LL teach the little fucker!

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Ok so what would you do. All those kids you describe above are that way from lack of dicipline and lack of parenting. You are right...parents are to blame but not in the way you think. It sounds like dad should have put his foot down sooner.

I had very strict parents growing up and I am thankful for that.

The dad can't be blamed just for taking a game away. His only other choice is to ignore whatever the kid was doing wrong. That just teaches him that there are no consequences.

Also the dad can't physically stop the child from running away for fear of abuse/kidnapping charges.
 
His only other choice is to ignore whatever the kid was doing wrong.


And the kid would be sleeping in his bed tonight.


But hey, gotta be superdad, throw away the xbox, pack his bags and tell him to go runaway.

Well done. Kids in a ditch, but hey 'i showed him'. Lots of kids in south central l.a. that could benefit from playing xbox all day in their homes btw.

I'd rather my kid play xbox then outside in gangs, how's that?

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When we were told to stop playing Nintendo when we were kids, we'd simply go outside and play.

I never understood how playing video games all day is more exciting than, like, you know, the entire world and stuff.



:cow:
hot coffee
 
And the kid would be sleeping in his bed tonight.

But he chose to run away. For XBOX!!!! Cry me a fucking river.

But hey, gotta be superdad, throw away the xbox, pack his bags and tell him to go runaway.

If my kid ever threatens to run away because I wouldn't let him waste his life playing video games, I would laugh at him and pack his stuff for him too and expect him to go to his friends house and find him in hiw own bed by morning anyways. I'm sure this guy was thinking that his kid would end up murdered for leaving the house. Please

Well done. Kids in a ditch, but hey 'i showed him'. Lots of kids in south central l.a. that could benefit from playing xbox all day in their homes btw.

I'd rather my kid play xbox then outside in gangs, how's that?

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Yep, because every kid that doesn't play video games is in a gang and has sex with 20 different chicks a night spreading AIDS and goes around murdering people. Fuck me.


How about he grab a fucking basketball and shoot some god damn hoops or something active instead of being a hermit nerdy little pussy playing wolrd of warcrat and Halo all god damned day.

Seriously, this thread is fucking ridiculous.

Any parent in their right mind would kick that kid in his ass and turn the god damn xbox off. What the fuck kind of parent lets there kid play xbox for 4 hours a day? A shitty one, that's who.

If the kid wants to run away and be a cry baby bitch about it, then let him. This father was trying to instill some discipline on his kid in a rather harmless way. Packing his napsack I'm sure was just to show his kid how ridiculously bitchy he was being.

Little smartass deserves a cap-in-da-ass for being such a little shit.
 
That's relevant how????

This kid ran away....because of his xbox.

We're not talking about some deeply troubled kid who got into serious trouble. he played too many video games, dad put his foot down, he - FIFTEEN YEAR OLD perfectly capable of being held accountable for his own actions - RAN AWAY. Over an XBOX. Not drugs, not gangs, not crime...and did I say it's "always" the kids fault? No, don't think I did. I said in this case, yeah. he's a selfish little prick for putting his parents through that.

And why is this post addressed at me anyway? Did you notice that EVERYONE else in the thread agreed with me? Right, ok.

But.. but... that kid is the flag runner in RG's capture-the-flag-guild! He had m4d sk1lz! An now he missed their match last night and they had to take a loss.

Damn, feel a little sympathy for the guy! If superdad would have just left him alone, he'd be at home cappin' flags right now!
 
LOL! I unplugged the internet last night, and it will continue, until my college student either gets it together or moves out and pays for their own life. I'm not going to support laziness!
 
LOL! I unplugged the internet last night, and it will continue, until my college student either gets it together or moves out and pays for their own life. I'm not going to support laziness!

Hell^Yes
 
LOL! I unplugged the internet last night, and it will continue, until my college student either gets it together or moves out and pays for their own life. I'm not going to support laziness!

He may run away and end up in a ditch. You're a horrible parent!


lmao
 
Do you have kids?
Or did you not have parents?
Or is it both?

I know if I pulled what this kid did, I'd be scared to go back. Cause I would have turned getting my Xbox for a couple of days taken away into a severe beating.

And I honestly think that is the right way to handle things. Whoever this kid is doesn't have a healthy sense of fear of his elders.



And the kid would be sleeping in his bed tonight.


But hey, gotta be superdad, throw away the xbox, pack his bags and tell him to go runaway.

Well done. Kids in a ditch, but hey 'i showed him'. Lots of kids in south central l.a. that could benefit from playing xbox all day in their homes btw.

I'd rather my kid play xbox then outside in gangs, how's that?

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LOL! I unplugged the internet last night, and it will continue, until my college student either gets it together or moves out and pays for their own life. I'm not going to support laziness!
Let's make this interesting. Let's have them disappear and wind up on the news in a bad way...then let us know how you feel. C'mon! It would be fun!
 
Do you have kids?
Or did you not have parents?
Or is it both?

I know if I pulled what this kid did, I'd be scared to go back. Cause I would have turned getting my Xbox for a couple of days taken away into a severe beating.

And I honestly think that is the right way to handle things. Whoever this kid is doesn't have a healthy sense of fear of his elders.
If your son died because of this, would you stick to your guns and say that it was still the right thing to do?

I'm really hoping that you would because it would show consistency.

Alot of people won't and it's easy to act all tough and show the tough love until it impacted them personally. Manners are one thing, but the life of a child is another.

I'm not sure that I would. However, if I were to stick to my guns and say that it's the right thing to do even though it cost the life of my child, then I would assume that there are people on here who would laugh because of it because of the humour of the situation.
 
If your son died because of this, would you stick to your guns and say that it was still the right thing to do?

I'm really hoping that you would because it would show consistency.

Alot of people won't and it's easy to act all tough and show the tough love until it impacted them personally. Manners are one thing, but the life of a child is another.

I'm not sure that I would. However, if I were to stick to my guns and say that it's the right thing to do even though it cost the life of my child, then I would assume that there are people on here who would laugh because of it because of the humour of the situation.


The parent should feel bad regardless do to their poor choices of raising their son! Kid needs to learn. The X-box is not the worst decision the parent has made in regards to their son!
 
The parent should feel bad regardless do to their poor choices of raising their son! Kid needs to learn. The X-box is not the worst decision the parent has made in regards to their son!
That's fine that the parent feels bad that they're son turned out bad. But would you rather that the parent be the cause that the kid died?

If you could feel no remorse for the death of your children and felt good about staying the course for their punishment (as trivial as it might be), good for you. Like I said, I couldn't do it if it cost me their lives.
 
That's fine that the parent feels bad that they're son turned out bad. But would you rather that the parent be the cause that the kid died?

If you could feel no remorse for the death of your children and felt good about staying the course for their punishment (as trivial as it might be), good for you. Like I said, I couldn't do it if it cost me their lives.

If, if, if, What if.....blah blah blah


Bottom line, taking the kids XBOX away from him was the right thing to do.

What ever hapened after that has nothing to do with the parents correct action to RIGHTFULLY taking the XBOX away from the kid.

What if the kid then was repenatnt and obedient to his parents request to stop playing XBOX, and went out for the night and still ended up sitting in a ditch dead?
 
this thread was dumb on page 2.

Im gonna go ahead and unsubscribe now. g'night.

(if i see this on next weeks poll for best thread im gonna freak)
 
If, if, if, What if.....blah blah blah


Bottom line, taking the kids XBOX away from him was the right thing to do.

What ever hapened after that has nothing to do with the parents correct action to RIGHTFULLY taking the XBOX away from the kid.

What if the kid then was repenatnt and obedient to his parents request to stop playing XBOX, and went out for the night and still ended up sitting in a ditch dead?
I don't think that we're going to agree on this item. Let's stop here and agree to disagree rather then go back and forth repeating the same things.

If you feel that way and can stick to your guns if it were to happen to you, then good for you.

My only point was that the life of my kids are far more important to me then to 'make a point'.

Does it mean that I'd cave every time there was a conflict? Nope. Does it mean that I'd be a hardass every time? Nope. Like parenting usually is, there's going to be a delicate balance. However, if my son died because of a punishment decision that I made, then I'd feel guilty forever about it.

But like I said, we don't have to agree.
 
I don't think that we're going to agree on this item. Let's stop here and agree to disagree rather then go back and forth repeating the same things.

If you feel that way and can stick to your guns if it were to happen to you, then good for you.

My only point was that the life of my kids are far more important to me then to 'make a point'.


Sure, that's more important, of course. However, the guy didn't know his kid was going to go missing. If that dad knew it would have turned out this way, he would most obviously have just let the kid be and play his game. We can judge it after the event when the consequence has made itself known. Everyone obviously will say "Shame on that dad for taking his XBOX, now he's dead".

If you look at it from the perspective that you don't know what the future holds (I call this being realistic), then any parent would just turn the kids game off and ground him from playing. If the dad had an angel whisper in his ear that his kid would go missing if he took his XBOX from him, then he would just let him play it. Point is, the dad did the right thing at the right moment. Can't knock him for his kid going missing. It wasn't his fault at all. Your argument assumes the unknown of the kid going missing. That is completely unrealistic.


Does it mean that I'd cave every time there was a conflict? Nope. Does it mean that I'd be a hardass every time? Nope. Like parenting usually is, there's going to be a delicate balance. However, if my son died because of a punishment decision that I made, then I'd feel guilty forever about it.

I'd feel guilty too if my kid went missing after an argument, like any emotionally normal person. These things happen often . Kid argues with parent, kid gets in car accident and dies. Last words exchanged are "I hate you".

I'm sure the dad is responsible for his kids disappearance. He probably hired a hitman to take him out for playing too much xbox.:biggrin:


But like I said, we don't have to agree.

No we don't. I just like being realistic.

^^^^
 
That's fine that the parent feels bad that they're son turned out bad. But would you rather that the parent be the cause that the kid died?

If you could feel no remorse for the death of your children and felt good about staying the course for their punishment (as trivial as it might be), good for you. Like I said, I couldn't do it if it cost me their lives.

You'll know everything about raising kids right up until you have one of your own giving you problems.

The right thing to do is be involved, discipline them, and teach them how to function. Their job is to test you and see where the boundaries are and if you really mean what you say. If you teach them to face up to their problems and be responsible for screw-ups they'll turn out fine. It doesn't mean they'll never test you.
 
Discipline and respect is something that needs to be instilled by the parents from an early age. Children are a byproduct of their environment. Starting to put your foot down when the child is 15 is already too late. imho ;)
 
you'll know everything about raising kids right up until you have one of your own giving you problems.

The right thing to do is be involved, discipline them, and teach them how to function. Their job is to test you and see where the boundaries are and if you really mean what you say. If you teach them to face up to their problems and be responsible for screw-ups they'll turn out fine. It doesn't mean they'll never test you.

exactly.
 
Discipline and respect is something that needs to be instilled by the parents from an early age. Children are a byproduct of their environment. Starting to put your foot down when the child is 15 is already too late. imho ;)
I've said it once to white people and I'll say it again.

"Beat your kids"
 
I've said it once to white people and I'll say it again.

"Beat your kids"

Sometimes a swift kick in the ass is a good thing. I got quite a few myself growing up. I've never really done anything that merited harsh punishment because I do what I'm told. My parents taught me respect and obedience from day 1, and I'll be forever greatful. I get pissed off at kids who talk back to their parents and give them shit. I can't stand it.
 
Sometimes a swift kick in the ass is a good thing. I got quite a few myself growing up. I've never really done anything that merited harsh punishment because I do what I'm told. My parents taught me respect and obedience from day 1, and I'll be forever greatful. I get pissed off at kids who talk back to their parents and give them shit. I can't stand it.

I want to punt those little fuckers to the back of the store every time I see a kid yell "no" to their parent when they tell them to put the candy they want down.
 
I want to punt those little fuckers to the back of the store every time I see a kid yell "no" to their parent when they tell them to put the candy they want down.

Me too. That shit drives me nuts.


I have a cousin that just says "It's okay" when her 3 year old screams and hits people. I smacked that little shit when he came up and scratched me once, and he went off crying to his mommy. She just held him and said "it's okay". I was furious.
 
Me too. That shit drives me nuts.


I have a cousin that just says "It's okay" when her 3 year old screams and hits people. I smacked that little shit when he came up and scratched me once, and he went off crying to his mommy. She just held him and said "it's okay". I was furious.

I saw a kid tell his mom to shut up the other day at the store and my face hurt just thinking about how hard I would have been slapped if I ever would have said that.
 
I saw a kid tell his mom to shut up the other day at the store and my face hurt just thinking about how hard I would have been slapped if I ever would have said that.

My little sister told my mom she was stupid one time. "Duh, mom. You're so stupid!" I don't think I had ever used the f-bomb in my parents house until that day, and haven't ever since. I made my sister cry. she told me she thought I was going to murder her for real.

I do not tolerate disrespect towards parents. My kids might think I'm a hard-ass when I finally have them, but they will "respect my authori-tay" (Cartman). I am really gentle towards kids, and really love kids (no pedo) but i'm also not afraid to let them have it if they are out of line. Even if their not my kids.
 
Should have sat down with his son played xbox and talked things out.
Sometimes parents need to listen to the kids sometimes kids need to talk to their parents

The kid liked his xbox so dad wanted to take it away ? WTF is that all about ?
What did the kid do wrong? Nothing

Imagine if you liked elite and spent alot of time on this website then your hubby/wife came in and took away the computer and hide it . WOULD YOU BE PISSED?
I bet you would.

The dad even admitted he fucked up at the end by saying the kid is not in trouble but when he comes back they will sit down and work things out . Why didn't the dad sit down and work things out before the kid ran away?

The kid lived in the fucking boonies his friends were all 30 minutes away.As for the 20$ missing the dad has no proof the son took the money.

I lived in the boonies as a kid and it fucking sucked dick. The xbox was the kids only way to talk to friends and feel social .
I bet the dad would love it if the kid sat in his room all day started at the walls and watched tv like he had to do as kid.
I think dad was just jealous his son could give a shit about him and rather play with his friends online
only so much catch you can play with dad before the shit gets old
 
Should have sat down with his son played xbox and talked things out.
Sometimes parents need to listen to the kids sometimes kids need to talk to their parents

The kid liked his xbox so dad wanted to take it away ? WTF is that all about ?
What did the kid do wrong? Nothing

Imagine if you liked elite and spent alot of time on this website then your hubby/wife came in and took away the computer and hide it . WOULD YOU BE PISSED?
I bet you would.

The dad even admitted he fucked up at the end by saying the kid is not in trouble but when he comes back they will sit down and work things out . Why didn't the dad sit down and work things out before the kid ran away?

The kid lived in the fucking boonies his friends were all 30 minutes away.As for the 20$ missing the dad has no proof the son took the money.

I lived in the boonies as a kid and it fucking sucked dick. The xbox was the kids only way to talk to friends and feel social .
I bet the dad would love it if the kid sat in his room all day started at the walls and watched tv like he had to do as kid.
I think dad was just jealous his son could give a shit about him and rather play with his friends online
only so much catch you can play with dad before the shit gets old

You make good points. I assume he took it from his kid after he asked him to stop playing it.

My parents have done the very same thing with me. Took my nintendo 64 away for playing it when I was asked to put it away. I didn't run away, even though I was way pissed.
 
Dad upset at kid's xbox obsession (I guess he rather be outside hanging with gangs like in la).

He takes his xbox. Soccer Parents around the world applaud! Taking away xbox's is all the rage!

Kid runs away. Now he's been missing for 9 days and family is crying.

Well done super dad. Pack his knapsack again next time.

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"I told him he wouldn't be getting his Xbox back. He said, `Then I'm going to leave home.'"

Steve called his son's bluff and even helped him pack his knapsack.

"I really thought he would be home later that day with his tail between his legs," said Steve, who remembers running away from home once when he was a boy.


ParentCentral.ca - News & Features - Family fears boy lured by gamers

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I bet this kid is a god to teenage nerds the world over. Gaming forums probably have threads stickied in his honor.
 
Holy Christ those parents are scenile. "I'm worried he has met someone online through this game. It could be organized crime or someone involved in Internet gambling. Pedophiles can stalk kids through these games," the tormented father said in an interview last night.

And a 15 yr old? According to the ESRB he's too young to be playing this game! See what happens?
I smell a lawsuit somewhere, somehow.
 
lol uh, the dad did the right thing. Your the parent, you can't let your child threaten you into not punishing them. If the kid - the tenth grader - ran away as a result, that sucks balls, but if his dad had given into the threat he would have lost all authority as the parent. Clearly, if the boy ran away because of his xbox, he NEEDED to have that thing taken from him. Unfortunate incident, but dad's not to blame.

If he was doing his job the kid wouldn't be cocking off like that. It sounds like a pretty undisciplined household.
Of course, Xbox Live is all the rage now so there's no telling what could happen!
 
This never would have happened if the kid would have gotten his ass kicked a few times earlier in life....


+1. This isn't limited to a physical beatdown though. It could also be mental. Kids have to be reigned in at an early age to the point where they are obedient to their parents. Clearly this was never accomplished by the parents in this case. Once they become teenagers it's pretty much too late and they'll most likely learn the hard way when they're on their own, and even then it will take a lot longer to learn, if they do at all. You can look at adults' behavior and easily decipher which of them have had this type of discipline instilled in them as a child.
 
Parents are chickenshit of giving their children any form of discipline anymore, consequently kids grow up thinking the world owes them everything and should kiss their asses to boot. It's as much a parental failure to be too lenient as it is to be too strict.

Unfortunately, in this parents case, it's probably too little, too late and applied at the wrong time. He should never have given the kid the fucking Xbox to begin with (I fucking hate video games).


TITCR, except for the last sentence. :)
 
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Dude, what the fuck happened to you when you were a kid that has made you so miserable?

He's not miserable, he's just cynically lashing out at those lesser than him for being stupidheads. Which is most of the country these days.
 
That's relevant how????

This kid ran away....because of his xbox.

We're not talking about some deeply troubled kid who got into serious trouble. he played too many video games, dad put his foot down, he - FIFTEEN YEAR OLD perfectly capable of being held accountable for his own actions - RAN AWAY. Over an XBOX. Not drugs, not gangs, not crime...and did I say it's "always" the kids fault? No, don't think I did. I said in this case, yeah. he's a selfish little prick for putting his parents through that.

And why is this post addressed at me anyway? Did you notice that EVERYONE else in the thread agreed with me? Right, ok.


Yeah, about 10 years too late!! lol lot of good it's going to do now with a wil'in out teenager.
 
If I had pulled a stunt like that at that age, my father would have told me not to even bother trying to come back...to stay gone and support myself.

I didn't even pull a stunt like that, like maybe 1/4 of that and my dad told me the same thing!
 
LOL! I unplugged the internet last night, and it will continue, until my college student either gets it together or moves out and pays for their own life. I'm not going to support laziness!

Don't you need the interwebs for college these days? That may be overkill.
 
The parent should feel bad regardless do to their poor choices of raising their son! Kid needs to learn. The X-box is not the worst decision the parent has made in regards to their son!

+1, there were many worse decisions in the many years before.

Hey I know, lets all get pissed and hate the inanimate objects that undisciplined people can start to obsess over, and simply get rid of them. (I wonder what we'd have left, lol)
 
You'll know everything about raising kids right up until you have one of your own giving you problems.

The right thing to do is be involved, discipline them, and teach them how to function. Their job is to test you and see where the boundaries are and if you really mean what you say. If you teach them to face up to their problems and be responsible for screw-ups they'll turn out fine. It doesn't mean they'll never test you.

+ 1 billion, case closed. No I don't have kids (yet).
 
Don't you need the interwebs for college these days? That may be overkill.

Yes you do. But so far this year I've seen him do homework exactly once, and have yet to catch him doing anything OTHER than playing WOW. I've gone to bed at midnight during the week and got up at four in the am for work to find him still on it..
 
You'll know everything about raising kids right up until you have one of your own giving you problems. LOL how freaking true!! :lmao:

The right thing to do is be involved, discipline them, and teach them how to function.

Their job is to test you and see where the boundaries are and if you really mean what you say.

If you teach them to face up to their problems and be responsible for screw-ups they'll turn out fine.

It doesn't mean they'll never test you.

Best post ever.
 
Yes you do. But so far this year I've seen him do homework exactly once, and have yet to catch him doing anything OTHER than playing WOW. I've gone to bed at midnight during the week and got up at four in the am for work to find him still on it..

Oh shit you've got a problem on your hands. I love videogames but that one is bad news, because it's not just a videogame; it's a social network built into a game, which can overtake people's real lives very easily if they don't have enough structure.
 
Oh shit you've got a problem on your hands. I love videogames but that one is bad news, because it's not just a videogame; it's a social network built into a game, which can overtake people's real lives very easily if they don't have enough structure.

+1

MMORPG games can be immersive and the social networks the are generated from them are quite strong.

- Imagine something as socially "sticky" as EF.

- But then give the common goals they can only obtain by working in groups. Animosity between groups crops-up too, because sometimes their goals are competitive. So the social bonds grow even stronger.

- And make the computer program something that works in first-person view, so the computer screen becomes their view and their mouse/keyboard becomes their ability to look and move around.

- Make the reward system progressive too, where gains are made quickly early-on and become increasingly difficult to obtain. Think about lifting weights.

Long story short -- be careful with those types of games. I'm not a big fan of them when it comes to children.
 
Yes.

Remember all who said his dad was right for taking his xbox away AND HELPING HIM LEAVE THE HOUSE. (father of the year candidate). Because you know, it's better if he's outside joining gangs, doign drugs then inside playing video games...

Well, now kid is dead. I'm sure the parents still feel they should've kicked him out.

As for blaming video games - if the dad had taken away his guitar because he was playing guitar all day - would it have made a difference???

TheStar.com | GTA | Brandon Crisp's body found

Yes parents. When junior gets angry and wants to runaway - be sure to pack his backpack and help him leave. That'll teach him!

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Tell you what, Razor, you have kids, let them hit puberty, then talk.

One of the biggest things you learn as a parent is that, after a certain age, it's about the choices your kid makes. Father says put away the XBox, kid says no, shit goes downhill from there. Who fucked up, the kid for disobeying the father or the father for saying "My house, my rules, follow them or you're welcome to leave." Some kids develop an unhealthy attachment to those disgusting video games to the point they let everything go to hell in a handcart, they have no social life, they stay up all night long playing them and school drops into the toilet. What the hell is a parent to do? Go "that's nice son, you go kill those bad guys, I guess a D- in English Lit. is the price we pay."

As a parent, when your under aged kid threatens to run away, you expect their asses to head to a friend's house, lay low for a few hours, then come skulking home with their tail between their legs around 10:00 p.m. and apologize and accept their punishment, not call some fucking stranger they hooked up with on the internet.

And as a parent you have the responsibility to enforce the rules of your home. While what happened is awful, I still can't fault the father, I'm just sorry he waited so long to enforce house rules and the results were so disastrous.

IMHO, video games are foul, nasty things and should not be in a household with children, period. Like cigarettes, they should have a warning label and nobody under 18 should be able to play/buy them.
 
Tell you what, Razor, you have kids, let them hit puberty, then talk.

One of the biggest things you learn as a parent is that, after a certain age, it's about the choices your kid makes. Father says put away the XBox, kid says no, shit goes downhill from there. Who fucked up, the kid for disobeying the father or the father for saying "My house, my rules, follow them or you're welcome to leave." Some kids develop an unhealthy attachment to those disgusting video games to the point they let everything go to hell in a handcart, they have no social life, they stay up all night long playing them and school drops into the toilet. What the hell is a parent to do? Go "that's nice son, you go kill those bad guys, I guess a D- in English Lit. is the price we pay."

As a parent, when your under aged kid threatens to run away, you expect their asses to head to a friend's house, lay low for a few hours, then come skulking home with their tail between their legs around 10:00 p.m. and apologize and accept their punishment, not call some fucking stranger they hooked up with on the internet.

And as a parent you have the responsibility to enforce the rules of your home. While what happened is awful, I still can't fault the father, I'm just sorry he waited so long to enforce house rules and the results were so disastrous.

IMHO, video games are foul, nasty things and should not be in a household with children, period. Like cigarettes, they should have a warning label and nobody under 18 should be able to play/buy them.


Kids friends lived 30 minutes away , he had no social life playing and chatting with his friends online was his social life.
Kid is a honor student . Dad should not tell his kid to leave the house and run away . He should have simpy said you get a limited time to play the games. Not pack the kids bags and tell him goodbye.
 
Kids friends lived 30 minutes away , he had no social life playing and chatting with his friends online was his social life.
Kid is a honor student . Dad should not tell his kid to leave the house and run away . He should have simpy said you get a limited time to play the games. Not pack the kids bags and tell him goodbye.
Maybe what I said comes off as defending the father's actions ... I am and I'm not. I think what I'm saying is that, the short answer is children are not born with a user's manual. For the most part, as a parent, you generally try to do the right thing. Yes, there are exceptions to the rule, yes, there are cruel/abusive/ignorant people out there, but for the most part, we're all just trying to do our best and the fact of human life is nobody's perfect, we all make mistakes, we wouldn't be here if we were perfect.

Now, would I as a parent tell my son to get out, help him pack? Honestly, no. To me, it's too harsh. Unless you're talking about a situation where lives and property are in severe danger, I consider that statement a dealbreaker and if that's the case then and you fear injury from your child, then you need to call authorities in and have the little bugger coded.

The father made a dumb mistake and he'll be kicking his ass forever over it, but I don't think when he did it he was expecting this outcome.

Believe me, there are 100s of regrets you look back on as a parent. Luckily I have none that involved my picking out a casket, but there are plenty of parents who have done dumb shit and their kid ended up dead. It's not malice, it's just a dumb fucking momentary lapse of judgment. And seriously, if you look at the causes of death for people who don't die from old age, death by misadventure in the home is like the top five. Hindsight is 20/20, but lots of people die every day for very, very stupid reasons.
 
Tell you what, Razor, you have kids, let them hit puberty, then talk.

One of the biggest things you learn as a parent is that, after a certain age, it's about the choices your kid makes. Father says put away the XBox, kid says no, shit goes downhill from there. Who fucked up, the kid for disobeying the father or the father for saying "My house, my rules, follow them or you're welcome to leave." Some kids develop an unhealthy attachment to those disgusting video games to the point they let everything go to hell in a handcart, they have no social life, they stay up all night long playing them and school drops into the toilet. What the hell is a parent to do? Go "that's nice son, you go kill those bad guys, I guess a D- in English Lit. is the price we pay."

As a parent, when your under aged kid threatens to run away, you expect their asses to head to a friend's house, lay low for a few hours, then come skulking home with their tail between their legs around 10:00 p.m. and apologize and accept their punishment, not call some fucking stranger they hooked up with on the internet.

And as a parent you have the responsibility to enforce the rules of your home. While what happened is awful, I still can't fault the father, I'm just sorry he waited so long to enforce house rules and the results were so disastrous.

IMHO, video games are foul, nasty things and should not be in a household with children, period. Like cigarettes, they should have a warning label and nobody under 18 should be able to play/buy them.
I'm sorry you feel that way. In response and to balance the universe, I'll take the same position about those crazy Wiccans.
 
I'm sorry you feel that way. In response and to balance the universe, I'll take the same position about those crazy Wiccans.
I'm sorry, but something as useless and mind numbing as video games (or t.v., all that mental junk food) are not a "natural part of the order of things." Wasting your life, time, energy, mental processes on video games has nothing to do with cosmic balance. It's a waste of your life energy, a waste of your money, a waste of your resources, a devourer of your time. Like any other junk food, used occasionally in moderation it can be a pleasant distraction. But when you're spending more than an hour a day playing video games you're probably verging on having a problem. And when you're spending more than three hours a day at them, every day, you're just another addict.

But if you insist on justifying it, then look at it this way, tobacco is a natural part of the cycle of things, and used in its natural state it is an entirely different product versus manufactured cigarettes, which I think are vile, nasty things, and highly toxic.

The coca plant in it's natural state is a mild stimulant, and totally non addictive. Cocaine, however, is not. I could go on and on and on. You have to use a little common sense when it comes to realizing what sways the scales of universal balance. Pissing your life away in front of a television living out an artificial fantasy is no better than shooting heroine into your veins and pissing your life away that way. It's a lazy way to waste time. Go do something productive, read a book, take a walk, develop face to face relationships, meditate, go to church, whatever, but do something frigging REAL.
 
I was disciplined at times

talking is the best way

when a parent EXPLAINS why something is wrong and then backs it up its ok

it not ok to use force with out explanation and a degree of firm compassion
 
orly?
 
Tell you what, Razor, you have kids, let them hit puberty, then talk.

One of the biggest things you learn as a parent is that, after a certain age, it's about the choices your kid makes. Father says put away the XBox, kid says no, shit goes downhill from there. Who fucked up, the kid for disobeying the father or the father for saying "My house, my rules, follow them or you're welcome to leave." Some kids develop an unhealthy attachment to those disgusting video games to the point they let everything go to hell in a handcart, they have no social life, they stay up all night long playing them and school drops into the toilet. What the hell is a parent to do? Go "that's nice son, you go kill those bad guys, I guess a D- in English Lit. is the price we pay."

As a parent, when your under aged kid threatens to run away, you expect their asses to head to a friend's house, lay low for a few hours, then come skulking home with their tail between their legs around 10:00 p.m. and apologize and accept their punishment, not call some fucking stranger they hooked up with on the internet.

And as a parent you have the responsibility to enforce the rules of your home. While what happened is awful, I still can't fault the father, I'm just sorry he waited so long to enforce house rules and the results were so disastrous.

IMHO, video games are foul, nasty things and should not be in a household with children, period. Like cigarettes, they should have a warning label and nobody under 18 should be able to play/buy them.

I took them video games from my kid, when he started shiting his pants instead of going bathroom.
 
I'm sorry, but something as useless and mind numbing as video games (or t.v., all that mental junk food) are not a "natural part of the order of things." Wasting your life, time, energy, mental processes on video games has nothing to do with cosmic balance. It's a waste of your life energy, a waste of your money, a waste of your resources, a devourer of your time. Like any other junk food, used occasionally in moderation it can be a pleasant distraction. But when you're spending more than an hour a day playing video games you're probably verging on having a problem. And when you're spending more than three hours a day at them, every day, you're just another addict.

But if you insist on justifying it, then look at it this way, tobacco is a natural part of the cycle of things, and used in its natural state it is an entirely different product versus manufactured cigarettes, which I think are vile, nasty things, and highly toxic.

The coca plant in it's natural state is a mild stimulant, and totally non addictive. Cocaine, however, is not. I could go on and on and on. You have to use a little common sense when it comes to realizing what sways the scales of universal balance. Pissing your life away in front of a television living out an artificial fantasy is no better than shooting heroine into your veins and pissing your life away that way. It's a lazy way to waste time. Go do something productive, read a book, take a walk, develop face to face relationships, meditate, go to church, whatever, but do something frigging REAL.

The Japanese are some of the most diligent, hard working and intelligent people on earth. Videogames are embedded in their culture. Hmmmm. Maybe they know something we don't yet.

Anyways-


Brandon Crisp died of chest trauma
Police say injuries consistent with fall from tree
Posted By Raymond Bowe
Updated 23 hours ago


Brandon Crisp died from severe chest trauma consistent with a fall from a tree, police said Saturday after releasing the autopsy results.

Even police were stunned by the news.

“It’s definitely a very tragic ending to this,” Barrie police Sgt. Dave Goodbrand told The Examiner, Saturday afternoon. “It’s very tragic news.”

There are several trees near where Brandon’s body was found Wednesday, but police wouldn’t speculate yesterday on the circumstances prior to his death.

“The investigation is continuing to determine the last moments and hours leading to Brandon’s death,” police said in a release.

Time of death has not been determined.

“The OPP is still trying to piece together the timeline,” Goodbrand said. “It’s still too early to say why he was where he was and what he was doing.”

When Brandon died is a question that may never be answered, authorities said.

“We may never get that information,” Goodbrand said. “That’s definitely something they’re still trying to determine and is still being worked on.”

A post-mortem examination was conducted Friday by the chief coroner in Toronto. Dental records were used to positively identify the boy’s body.

Foul play is not suspected.

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The 15-year-old Barrie boy ran away from his Hickling Trail home on Oct. 13 following an argument with his parents, Steve and Angelika Crisp, over his Xbox gaming habits, and his growing obsession with the video game Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare.

The diminutive teenager, a Grade 10 student at St. Joseph’s High School in Barrie, was reported missing early the next morning when he did not return home.

A massive search effort was commenced on Oct. 19 in the Shanty Bay area, where two people had reported seeing the youngster on the Oro-Medonte Rail Trail. However, the 10-day ground search, which also included aerial and marine surveys, turned up no evidence as to the boy’s whereabouts.

Deer hunters located the body Wednesday morning in a densely wooded area between Line 4 and Line 5, north of Ridge Road, a few kilometres northeast of where Barrie police had set up a command post in Shanty Bay.

The OPP has taken over the investigation because the body was found in their jurisdiction. Investigators continue to examine the scene for more clues.

There had been media speculation that Brandon died from hypothermia, because he had left home on an unseasonably warm day with clothing considered unsuitable for the cold weather that lay ahead.

Police are still appealing for the public’s help in developing a timeline, including possible sightings of Brandon in the 4th Line area of Oro-Medonte Township, including Oct. 13 between 4 p.m. and 7 p.m.

Anyone with information can call Barrie OPP at 705-726-6484, Barrie city police at 705-725-7025, or anonymously through Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS.

A book of condolences has been set up at the MacLaren Art Centre in downtown Barrie.

Brandon’s funeral is scheduled for Friday.

The Barrie Examiner - Ontario, CA
 
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