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boyindasouth

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Of running anything other than tren? Im in my fourth week of a TrenA/Tren E/test cycle (Tren 650 Test 375) and already im 10 Lbs up, 2 inches down in waist, strong as an ox and getting leaner by the second. Why did I waste my time and money on my last cycles (mast, primo, test) I mean seriously for the money whats the point.. it all kinda looks like GNC supps next to tren. I came off of a Masteron/Test cycle last, busted my ass and didnt really gain a whole lot (5lbs no huge loss of bf while on a strict diet), havent run tren for 1.5 years until this cycle :) Spoiled for life from Tren, Loving life...
 
I feel the same way a few weeks into tren. cause it works so fast. but towards the end of the cycle when the sides are peaking, and then dealing with tren cough once in a while you just want to get it out of your system and be done with it.

primo i have a tough time with cause it hurts like hell, but i would rather do 100mg of primo a day for 10 weeks then run tren. on primo i literally had zero sides. seemed like i kept 100% of my gains from it too and i would eat like crazy on it and not gain any fat. and recovery was incredibly fast. i bounced back fast and was ready for my next cycle. its just too bad primo has such a crazy molecular weight. and you can only inject 200mg at a time cause its so thick.. primo is the only AAS i inject then drop to the ground in agony from the pain. not sure i can ever use it again :(
 
Why? Because there hasn't been a single study of its use in humans and it causes all sorts of weird ass side effects? That'd be my first guess.
 
Study? There are plenty of "Studies" right here on these boards, and people have been using it for years with success. If you're that afraid of long term effects, just stick with naturaaaaal.. Just sayin, well besides npp/deca, everything else just seems to be on a sub par unequal level than tren, and if im going to be poking myself and shelling out cash, im going with what not only works but works extremely well and not wasting my time with anything else.....
 
But, you do have a point with the sides i guess that could possibly be an argument, thank god I dont have that issue, I actually feel awesome on tren.
 
tren makes me feel awful, zombie like status in 6 weeks, no sleep, angry

I don't care how it makes me look, it's not worth feeling like that
 
I bet we'd get some volunteers to be test subjects....

~EZ
 
Tren was awesome. I won't disagree. But the sleep depravation made me insane. I was always pissed off bc of no sleep. I was horny as shit on it and felt unstoppable but not sleeping an gyno will probably keep me away from it in the future.

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boyindasouth said:
Of running anything other than tren? Im in my fourth week of a TrenA/Tren E/test cycle (Tren 650 Test 375) and already im 10 Lbs up, 2 inches down in waist, strong as an ox and getting leaner by the second. Why did I waste my time and money on my last cycles (mast, primo, test) I mean seriously for the money whats the point.. it all kinda looks like GNC supps next to tren. I came off of a Masteron/Test cycle last, busted my ass and didnt really gain a whole lot (5lbs no huge loss of bf while on a strict diet), havent run tren for 1.5 years until this cycle :) Spoiled for life from Tren, Loving life...
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To be quite honest with you, there is no point, you made a great point!
 
Yes boyindasouth tren is the shit respc if u use fina...DIRT CHEAP!

dig deep,dig hard.whatever drives you to workout hold on to it with everything you got.keep the fire burning
 
Anyone try low dose Tren and is it worth it to fire it up for 3-4 weeks to "kick start" another cycle and get things rolling but cut if off before it gets too nasty?

Say start with Tren Ace 75mg-100mg EOD plus Test (whatever dose your using) for 4 weeks, then transition into a Test and Mast cycle just for instance?
 
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lol why dont we all just start using synthol whey were at it? and throw in some HGH too. Fuck it right.....lol

sure, tren works great, but at what cost?

I get some pretty damn good gains off test along, and I will probably just run test and maybe some deca while switching up the orals I use to kickstart for my next few cycles...at least

.....and then.....when I finally DO decide to use tren, I will surpass the people that jumped into it right away.....at least I think so. lol

I just think the sides(from what I have heard and seen) are not worth it....at least not at first.

I havent used tren yet, but I dont need to. If you cant grow on test/deca/dbol, then you dont know how to train and eat. I think tren should be left for when you stop making gains with other compounds.

and most of the time, the people that jump into super high doses right away, or tren right away.....wont even be training in 10 years or less

its a way of life, a marathon, so Ill wait to use the steroid with the reputation for the most severe sides till I actually NEED it. just my 2 cents, but to each his own.........
 
hhaha....last comment is funny...yea I dont want to be bloated or have zits either...

I dont do high doses and I dont have a problem getting big and strong....Tren sounds tempting because of the shredding you up factor, and I wouldnt mind kick starting a blast by shredding up or feeling the Tren craze for myself for 3-4 weeks with a candy ass dose hah...

But Ill probably chicken out and stick to blast with Test, Mast, tbol :-)
 
The only time I used tren was back in 09'. 50mg ED. I made it 3 weeks and had to stop. I was sooooo angry on tren. I would snap at my family and not realize how harsh i was being. Finally my wife asked me to cut out the tren and stick with just test. After her explanation I felt horrible.

Other than that....I felt like fucking superman while using tren. Didnt get into many sides at all other than the one already discussed. I was horny 24/7. I swear my cock grew an inch in length and diameter (i know it didnt, relax..)
I got some wicked hot flashes after every meal but other than that I felt like superman.

The only other thing i noticed was i had this nagging underlying subconscious feeling that I shouldnt be using it....almost like my body was going Psssst....hey....this shit is not healthy.....

I have every confidence I could control my mood now but I just dont feel right(health/body wise) about using it again.



Edit: funny/sad side note....after I stopped I gave my buddy the rest of my tren (30 ml +) and while it was in his shoe box with his other goodies it tipped over and the whole thing leaked out!!
 
Other than that....I felt like fucking superman while using tren. Didnt get into many sides at all other than the one already discussed. I was horny 24/7. I swear my cock grew an inch in length and diameter (i know it didnt, relax..)

Family stuff not good...but this comment is freaking hilarious....

Kinda interesting that you had a gut feeling your body said the stuff aint good for ya...
 
I am only on the 4th day, 100mg ED.
I am Superman.

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Ok well I tried Primo before. Besides the fact that all I could get was 100mg/ml, I was using I think 600mg EW. It was similiar to EQ but not as much of a blown up veiny look. A bit more quality and a more realistic look. Then I dropped the Primo and went to Tren. Within 2 weeks I saw a complete change and probably gained 4x the muscle that I did with 8 weeks+ of primo. I also saw fat loss and body recomp as well as quality striations and veins.

I started Tren a few days ago and I can already see some veins starting to pop and my overall physique is getting dialed in. Feel stronger too. Had a very good session in the gym yesterday. I was able to push myself harder and still never really felt like I was giving it 100%. Had to do drop sets to get to failure.

Some people get HORRIBLE sides from Tren and I totally understand them not wanting to use it. Some people get very minimal sides but incredible gains. I'm one of those people that get insane gains from Tren and the sides are just like using EQ or anything else. Only way to know if Tren is for you is to try it out. Start out at a lower dose and see how you tolerate the sides. Then you can bump it up if you'd like. Even at just 50mg EOD you should see nice steady gains with very little sides. Honestly, 200mg of Tren Ace EW is probably stronger than 500mg of Primo EW...plus you have to watch the hairline more with Primo than you do with Tren. At least in my experience.
 
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Tren is probably my fav gear to run. I've used up to 150mg/day... Never had bad sides besides lost of sleep. I've always made my batches so cost was low. I may jump back on the tren wagon in a couple weeks :))))
 
I also wanted to add that the only tren I've used is from fina pellets. I know it is legit and trust it since I know exactly what's in it. I think some people possibly get EQ or something else when they order Tren. I also never get tren cough and a few people I've asked who use the same tren as me don't get the cough either and the only real issues some people have are anger problems but that depends on the kind of person you are and the good thing about tren ace is you can drop it if you become a lunatic and it is out of your system quickly.
 
wcjcMr.O said:
lol why dont we all just start using synthol whey were at it? and throw in some HGH too. Fuck it right.....lol

sure, tren works great, but at what cost?

I get some pretty damn good gains off test along, and I will probably just run test and maybe some deca while switching up the orals I use to kickstart for my next few cycles...at least

.....and then.....when I finally DO decide to use tren, I will surpass the people that jumped into it right away.....at least I think so. lol

I just think the sides(from what I have heard and seen) are not worth it....at least not at first.

I havent used tren yet, but I dont need to. If you cant grow on test/deca/dbol, then you dont know how to train and eat. I think tren should be left for when you stop making gains with other compounds.

and most of the time, the people that jump into super high doses right away, or tren right away.....wont even be training in 10 years or less

its a way of life, a marathon, so Ill wait to use the steroid with the reputation for the most severe sides till I actually NEED it. just my 2 cents, but to each his own.........
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Excellent post

~EZ
 
In my experience....Gets your physique hard, strength gains are suberb, intensity in the gym is suberb, great for vascularity IMO, and it's great for cutting or bulking. Stacked it with test and at times Winny. Night sweats are OUT OF CONTROL!!!! Had to chnage my shirt 3 times a night with a fan! Tren cough on only a few occasions (and was using Tren Ace ED). In my late 30's now so I avoid Nondralone derivatives anymore though. If you can bare the sides then go for it.
 
JuiceIsMyFriend said:
Can someone describe the side effects of tren besides the lack of sleep??
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For me.....it was bad night sweats (pillow stayed soaked), high blood pressue, made me quick to speak my mind, didnt care if it pissed u off. Not my normal easy going character. I got the biggest, nasty, gigantic, painful purple zits Ive ever seen in my life. I came off tren ace 3 months ago & I still have purple marks on my body where the zits were. On the good side....I got great results from it. Strength great, leaned out, waist shrunk (even with a crappy diet), nice hard look. Dont plan on running it again tho. Dont want to deal with the sides. Just not worth it...for me anyway.
 
i have a detailed log up of the sides i encountered.

was de-hydrated almost right off the bat, no matter how much i drank always felt thirsty... killed my appetite.. didn't feel like eating after a workout when i'm usually starving, felt blah and if i did any cardio after my weights i would get naseous. later on was dealing with horrible pumps. all in all sides weren't THAT bad but the whole feeling naseous and de-hydrated made me glad when i stopped it. my strength on it was crazy, took me to another level..

would i run it a 3rd time? probably. it works fast, is cheap, and i was able to recover from it pretty quickly.

but i want to try var next, one of the only AAS i have never tried.
 
hd heritage said:
For me.....it was bad night sweats (pillow stayed soaked), high blood pressue, made me quick to speak my mind, didnt care if it pissed u off. Not my normal easy going character. I got the biggest, nasty, gigantic, painful purple zits Ive ever seen in my life. I came off tren ace 3 months ago & I still have purple marks on my body where the zits were. On the good side....I got great results from it. Strength great, leaned out, waist shrunk (even with a crappy diet), nice hard look. Dont plan on running it again tho. Dont want to deal with the sides. Just not worth it...for me anyway.
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Hmmm well I had all those sides last time I ran test and deca so shouldn't be a problem
 
I do lots of strongman type conditioning, sprints, sledge hammer work, sled pulls and pushes, and might be getting back into some MMA....those are my conditioning days in addition to heavy olympic/powerlifting days....so Tren doesnt sound compatible with heavy conditioning either huh?
 
Power36 said:
I do lots of strongman type conditioning, sprints, sledge hammer work, sled pulls and pushes, and might be getting back into some MMA....those are my conditioning days in addition to heavy olympic/powerlifting days....so Tren doesnt sound compatible with heavy conditioning either huh?
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You'll probably do better with test/deca/an oral
Tren will make you sweat nonstop. You get strong as hell but your cardio goes downhill and you burn calories just sitting,
 
Im not doing a lick of cardio, just training extremely hard while in the gym and eating large amounts of clean calories, hardly any carbs. BF% 11% today, down from 14%, added another 2LBS since OP.
 
I figure ill post my diet here with my Tren thread, curious if im going to get flamed for not living off of a high sugar diet like many:
Meal 1: 6 raw eggs, 2scoops whey 1C Cream
Meal 2: 8 oz Ahi tuna & soy sauce
Meal 3: 2 chickenbreasts 2 slices tomato
Meal 4: 8 oz ahi tuna & soy sauce
Meal 5: 6 raw eggs, 2 scoops whey 1C cream
3210 Calories
15G Carbs
399G Protein
170 G Fat
 
UA_Iron said:
tren makes me feel awful, zombie like status in 6 weeks, no sleep, angry

I don't care how it makes me look, it's not worth feeling like that
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Exactly.

Not everybody can run Tren. The sides are too much for a lot of people. If it wasn't for the sides, it would be the best steroid in the world.. but I hate that shit.. made me feel awful.

There's cycles u can get as good gains from. Just gotta dose them a little higher.
Deca and mast
1-test cyp
 
boyindasouth said:
I figure ill post my diet here with my Tren thread, curious if im going to get flamed for not living off of a high sugar diet like many:
Meal 1: 6 raw eggs, 2scoops whey 1C Cream
Meal 2: 8 oz Ahi tuna & soy sauce
Meal 3: 2 chickenbreasts 2 slices tomato
Meal 4: 8 oz ahi tuna & soy sauce
Meal 5: 6 raw eggs, 2 scoops whey 1C cream
3210 Calories
15G Carbs
399G Protein
170 G Fat
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get rid of the soy sauce, too much salt. maybe heavy on the tuna, salmon is a healthier fish. make sure those eggs are omega cage free, makes a huge difference. you've got balls eating them raw, i give you props for that.

where are your veggies? tomato is a fruit, need some green veggies in there. maybe throw in a sweet potato in the mix and a salad with one of your meals.
 
^^ yea id add broccoli or sugar peas,green beans some green veggie to atleast 2 meals

im against raw eggs but thats me
 
If tren is what works for you then so be it use it. Tren is highly androgenic and anabolic, it also has a higher risk for side effects, their are safer steroids like parabolan, or anavar. If anavar is ran at a high enough dose it can yeild the same effects that trenbolone does with less side effects. Also trenbolone is very hard on your hpta and can make it harder for one to recover properly when they come off of cycle and go into PCT. Trenbolone is a very good anabolic. Just be careful when using it.
 
I agree on the salt issue, its one of those things that i have to have to make my tuna a little more delicious :) I love tuna, so Im probably not eating the best formof fish but its one of the only pleasures in my diet, but I do eat other fish including salmon when fresh fish is available, all of my fish intake is raw too by the way including other species. About the raw egg issue, well I only eat the organic free range eggs and they are quite delicious raw, I always compare my shakes to how cake batter tastes its pretty awesome, plus theres a 6X larger chance of dying in a car accident everytime stepping foot in a car than catching salmonella fyi... No better form ofdigestible protein & fat than eggs IMO.
 
thelion2005 said:
I've been in the game for 68 years and have seen aas become part of the iron life. Tren is the extreme today as was dbol in the past.

IMO and experience, it boils down to the side price when you decide what to use. Are you willing to pay?
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Good post. I agree
 
boyindasouth said:
Im against fruits & veggies in cut mode lol...
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that belief can end up really hurting you.. fruits and veggies have essential vitamins and minerals that we need.

Just like you think eggs are the best form of protein...

fruits/veggies are the best source of vitamins/minerals...
 
boyindasouth said:
Im against fruits & veggies in cut mode lol...
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fruit I can understand. but veggies won't effect your cut at all bro and they have a lot of vits/minerals.

you also could use the vitamin C from the fruit to help combat cortisol after workouts.

you could eat a sweet potato before your workout and then a piece of high vitamin C fruit after. and keep the rest of your diet as is.. just a suggestion, I think your diet is solid overall and better than most (besides the salt from the soy sauce of course) there are some good bbq sauces sold in the health food sections of stores, that have very low salt contents. i'm not a fan of soy at all, there are some theories that i've read that soy increases estrogen, which is why those guys that eat sushi and most asians are so scrawny.
 
tilltheend said:
If tren is what works for you then so be it use it. Tren is highly androgenic and anabolic, it also has a higher risk for side effects, their are safer steroids like parabolan, or anavar. If anavar is ran at a high enough dose it can yeild the same effects that trenbolone does with less side effects. Also trenbolone is very hard on your hpta and can make it harder for one to recover properly when they come off of cycle and go into PCT. Trenbolone is a very good anabolic. Just be careful when using it.
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Parabolan eh? Isn't that Tren Hex?...lol :evil:

Anavar is good stuff and I agree in some ways that Anavar at 100mg is a light version of tren ace. But Tren still kicks its ass. Maybe not considering the sides though.
 
tilltheend said:
Also trenbolone is very hard on your hpta and can make it harder for one to recover properly when they come off of cycle and go into PCT. Trenbolone is a very good anabolic. Just be careful when using it.
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running tren ace and running the correct ancillaries you can recover from it atleast in my 2 experiences running it.. i have a tren log up with bloods taken after that show how fast i was able to recover from it using a PCT protocol i came up with. its in my signature. and the tren log is up somewhere you will have to do a search.

the key is keeping it at 6 weeks only. running it 15 or 20 weeks and good luck recovering.
 
boyindasouth said:
I figure ill post my diet here with my Tren thread, curious if im going to get flamed for not living off of a high sugar diet like many:
Meal 1: 6 raw eggs, 2scoops whey 1C Cream
Meal 2: 8 oz Ahi tuna & soy sauce
Meal 3: 2 chickenbreasts 2 slices tomato
Meal 4: 8 oz ahi tuna & soy sauce
Meal 5: 6 raw eggs, 2 scoops whey 1C cream
3210 Calories
15G Carbs
399G Protein
170 G Fat
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Add in some veggies just for the health and fiber, plus a little extra cals. Soy sauce will bloat you up even though it's tasty. You ever try Tilapia? It is really good for you and tastes pretty nicely. My woman makes it for me with a little bit of sprinkled whole wheat breadcrumb. Probably not the greatestttt for cutting but hey if you are on Tren it should get the job done unless you are competing. Definitely better than soy sauce.

I still haven't tried raw eggs in a shake yet! I was always scared it would taste horrible. Lots of people recommend using Egg Whites from the carton. The thought of it grosses me out but I think I might have to try it. Maybe with some chocolate whey and a banana it won't taste so bad?
 
Try the raw egg thing trust me, it tastes great its easily digested and very good for you. You probably wont go back to your old ways after a few, look up some recipes online theres a ton out there. Its awesome for both cutting & bulking. My bulk shake is:
6 Eggs, 1C cream, 2 scoops whey, 1 banana, 2 TBS Peanut Butter, stevia. Its about as close to drinking Ice creamas it gets, badass shit right there.
 
I eat veggies, lots 9 months out of the year, but while cutting I go zero carb or as close as I can, Vince Gironda style, fat literally disappears no bullshit, to each his own...
 
I hate fruit ..I NEVER eat it

dig deep,dig hard.whatever drives you to workout hold on to it with everything you got.keep the fire burning
 
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