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Whats jail really like?

it was great. temperputic mattress, a/c, gourmet meals, awesome gym, congical visits, polo sweats and nikes for all....
WTF! what do u think jail is like?!! it sucks! dark, gloomy, loud, cold w/ shit food and a bunch of irritating assholes everywhere.
 
LiveFastDieHard said:
Im going to jail...im being charged with 46 counts of possession of controlled substances with intent to deliver..all felonies...im fighting it but i am going to lose...i dont know if im going to a state or federal prison though...can someone tell me what prison is really like?

by the way i was caught with 2 pounds of pot, 40 OC80's, and like a very small amount of meth...and im in pennsylvania

check out www.prisontalk.com lots of good info there, just don't believe every sad sack story though.
I'm sorry to hear about your troubles; welcome to club CF where your problems only begin with incarcaration.
 
LiveFastDieHard said:
2. If the police lied on any of the reasons they had in print to get the search warrant is there a good chance the warrant could be thrown out?


I am not sure if someone answered this... Im only on page 11 of this thread, phew long thread!! Don't know where you are at at this point... but this is an important point.

To answer your question YES!

1) if the police LIED then you can file a SUPPRESSION OF EVIDENCE and the evidence can NOT be used against you due to misconduct / violation of privacy rights / fourth amendment stuff... the search warrant will not be valid if it was filed on the basis of a lie. Or if the judge who approved it did so in error without due cause. There needs to be some probable cause / evidence / to issue a warrant.

2) How did they find the stuff? Did you give them consent to search your house? Or what?

3) Go and email this lawyer who specializes in AAS cases: http://www.legalmusclebooks.com/ Also if you still can, order his book asap, and give it to the lawyer representing you.
 
Dude phaded, are your wearing tights or is your legs just need some tanning? lol :)
 
Wootoom said:
man it sucks i was in there for 2 years for jaywalking. its not so fun



Two years for jay walking are u f-ing serious?
I Only did 18 days for neglegent discharge of a firearm and possesion of loaded firearm in a public place
 
I did a couple of different bids in a few states 1 county 1 city and i state pen they all sucked bigtime the worst was the year in city no movement rec was 2xwk oter than that stayed on same cell block other then going to rec which had no weights only a bb court Dont believe what you see on tv
 
I just got out of California CDC after 16 months. Jail isnt so bad. I am Southern Hispanic so those who know it was a cake walk. I walked into jail about 260 juiced to the gills and left 230 straight ripped. Dont be scared man. Yes you are young but 90% of all the inmates are kids. Just keep your eyes open and your mouth shut!!!!
I missed Operation Raw Deal and heard about alot of good homies catching cases. Anyhow, dont sweat it just do your time and move on with your life. You are a baby man. I am sure you arent married with no kids. When you are married with kids its a totally different story. I had a supportive wife and family and was out in no time. Life is back to normal and I have a CLS63 lol and a bunch of other stuff was saved: House, Cars, Boat ect ect.
 
who bumped a 3 yearold thread? The dude probaly maxed out by now.
 
State and Feds are much different.
State is easy, though many states are removing the weight piles.

Feds - FCI is easy, USP can be rough.
If you go stick to your own kind until you figure out the politics and what is going on in the joint you are in. Never punk out always fight and you'll be ok
 
CLS63 said:
I just got out of California CDC after 16 months. Jail isnt so bad. I am Southern Hispanic so those who know it was a cake walk. I walked into jail about 260 juiced to the gills and left 230 straight ripped. Dont be scared man. Yes you are young but 90% of all the inmates are kids. Just keep your eyes open and your mouth shut!!!!
I missed Operation Raw Deal and heard about alot of good homies catching cases. Anyhow, dont sweat it just do your time and move on with your life. You are a baby man. I am sure you arent married with no kids. When you are married with kids its a totally different story. I had a supportive wife and family and was out in no time. Life is back to normal and I have a CLS63 lol and a bunch of other stuff was saved: House, Cars, Boat ect ect.
u sound proud :worried:
 
Wow, i remember reading this thread till like page 19, because i had a warrant for my arrest at the time, and i was wondering what jail would be like. I must say, the curiosity struck me, because at the time i was living in Miami, and i had heard horror stories about jail/stockade. Needless to say, it wasn't that bad (if you know how to act right).

I was arrested in 11/06, and got out 02/07, a day before valentines day. 4 months, no big deal, but it felt like forever at the time. Before i got arrested, i was in the best shape of my life, training for rock climbing competitions, road biking, etc. Then my exgf at the time got in a drunk driving accident, our relationship ended, i got thrown out of the house. I was living out of my car for a few weeks with no place to stay. Then, i got pulled over for an invalid tag, and the officer saw that i had a warrant outta key west. While in jail, i lost my job (working at a bank), lost my car (it was auctioned off cuz i was in jail for too long), and i lost all my personal belongings that were in the vehicle.

Jail wasn't too bad, i just had to reset my mind set. Shitty food, always cold, no where to work out, just one pull up bar and a 10x10ft rec area with a basketball hoop. It was a joke. I was at 160 at the time, and i got up to 195 in weight gain (fat).

The only thing i got out of jail was learning to get Bostons in Spade games. All i did to pass the time was play card games, gamble, win people's commissary and just eat all day long. Probably one of the reasons i never got into trouble in jail. I looked white, but spoke spanish, so i got along with whites and latinos. But i also played spades all day with the blacks, so they loved me to be on their side. I saw a lot of fake thug wanna be hard core fighters get their asses handed to them while in there. You get desensitized to shit like that after a while. I'd see a fight break out, be completely unphased, and just keep playing cards.

When i got out, had to start from scratch. Had to whore myself to chicks for a while to get back on my feet. Worked construction for a bit, oil changing jobs, etc. Then after 2 years finally landed a Banking job again, and put myself thru school (10 years after graduating highschool).

I can finally say that now, after 2 years after getting out, shit is finally starting to pick back up now. Got 4.0 gpa, and i'm getting into biotech.
 
Talk to your lawyer about drug treatment court. Say that you are an addict and alcoholic. They offer it in PA, it is an intensive rehabilitation program but it will keep you out of jail.
 
here are some tips;
1. bring change so you can sell it to people who want to make phone calls
2. dont bring cash!
3. dont bring any personal prop! NOTHING!
4. no matter what, at all cost, never ever back down from a fight, no matter how fucked up YOU KNOW your going to get!
5. be cordial to the corrections officers, when your in private
6. never go out of your way to do anything that you can live without
 
I've known a guy that did a couple years time in medium security. He said it's not like the movies. Guys who get raped are either gay and looking for sex or child molestors or rapists... If you aren't any of the aforementioned, you probably won't get fucked with.

That being said, don't talk badly about anyone. Don't accept any gifts or favors, if you do, chances are they will want something back.... with plenty of interest. Don't let anyone take any of your belongings.... that's the first step towards challenging you personally, let them make that first step and shit will get a sharpsight worst real quickly.

Kick someones ass for stealing your shit. If you don't know who it was, put word out that you're looking for them and they will get their ass kicked.

Better to fight and lose than to backdown in prison (unless if you're outnumbered or someone has a weapon, then try to outrun them or notify guards quickly). The guys who get fucked with are those too cowardly to fight for their dignity, if they know you'll put up a fight, they'll fuck with an easier target.

Chances are the fight/rape/violence type stuff won't be seen unless if you're in federal maximum....

Most people in minimum and medium security are just trying to quietly do their time and get out early. It's maximum security that's really ugly. The more lifers there are, the nastier the prison will be.

The guy I knew never got fucked with and he's not even a big guy. He just did his couple of years. He never saw or heard of rapes.... there was some consensual sex with the trannys tho. He witnessed one murder and it was when a guy with white power tattoos got housed with a leader of one of the black gangs....
 
damn 3 years? Thats rediculous, i got arrested for drag racing last summer, even though i was just out with some friends driving to a car meet. They wanted to give me 6mos in prison (YES PRISON), $1000.00 fine and chance of loosing my license for 3 years. I fought it tooth and nail and won. It cost 11g`s to get out of something i didnt even do.

The system is fucked up!
 
have you made your plea yet? Have you been sentenced? If I can recommend one thing and its a good one, Immediately check yourself into rehab. This is something they DONT tell you until its too late. If you have a history of drug abuse within the past 12 months (and yes they consider steroids an abusable, addictable drug) you will be automatically eligible for the drug program within the prison system...this could shave 6 months off your sentence. My better half was obviously using steroids and should have been eligible, but lets just say he wasn't the right nationality to be eligible. Basically, any white guy is screwed when he gets to prison so make SURE you have documentation of drug abuse and desire to be cured within the 12 months of whenever they are jacking you up.
There's something called a PreSentence Report. This is when some mousy, insignificant, want-to-be agent gets to ask you a bunch of personal and financial questions. He will of course skew his final draft to serve the US govt, especially if you have assets they can take from you, but be sure to mention about the drug abuse, the admission to drug rehab, and how this addiction may have lead you to the wrong decisions you obviously made.
What's jail like...it depends what jail you go to. The holding cells look like a nightmare in a mexican movie. Don't plan on seeing a toilet seat for a while. and I hope you don't look like a target. I was the perfect inmate because I was taking MT2 at the time and nobody could tell my race despite my green eyes and blonde hair. funny to me because I'm as caucasian as they come, but the blacks thought I was a mix and the latinas thought I was one of them. blend in and try to not be an ass. Some jails have pillows and decent but thin mattresses, some are super thin mattresses and no pillows. one place I was at was friendly..nice guards, but when I was in atlanta, fulton county jail was the most caustic, negative place I have ever been. I guess a lot of the guards are now facing charges of assault for their misconduct. a real scary place.
Good luck to you. I think I have some good knowledge and insight about this sort of thing. DONT hire an idiot counsellor who will charge you 2500 to help get you into the rehab, get you through the process smoothly..basically what I learned is no outsider has any pull and these mediatiors are one step away from the scumbag lawyers who "make a deal" with your life. Like my lawyer said "a good lawyer keeps his client out of the courtroom"....wow. I think back now and realize this guy never intended on winning, just lessening the blow.
If you have any questions, I may be able to help you. I'm no genius, but I do remember what went wrong for us and I would help you avoid it...
 
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