Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below damn man that shit must suck. the usa is so fuckin heavy on sentences, they dont even treat people like humans. in canada, my friend got away with prohbation for armed home invasion. they were stupid clowny kids and one of them decided to pick up a cell phone at the scene of the crime and put it in his pocket without turning it off. the person on the other side of the phone listened to everything afterwards and heard all the names and recognized them. then the kid who picked up the cell phone snitched everyone out making video statements.
Whats jail really like?
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chem_kid
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Honestly dude,
If you are looking at 3 years you did not do bad. OC 80's will bury you in some states. I heard of some guys doing 2 years for like 8 pills dude! And meth...whew! The feds through away the key when they catch you with that stuff. Pot is a joke though. Feds don't give much time for that. It is the OCs and meth that killed you. When you get out, do yourself a favor and don't f%$k around with that stuff anymore. I have seen the best of dudes completely go to shit from Oxys, and meth just makes you a skinny braindead HIV looking person in a matter of months. Stick to doing juice and you will never do another crappy drug again, because you'll get into your training so much. That what these lawmakers don't understand about steroids, they keep you away from drinking and other crappy drugs.
As far as jail goes. My friend just got out and he only did a nothing white-collar crime. He did 18months in a fed camp. The think that sucks - are you ready for this- THE FED JAIL HAVE NO MORE WEIGHTS! Do you believe it? There is only a few left with weights and when their weights break they won't replace them. Also there is no education anymore in Fed jails other than GED programs (Gee, that will prepare you for the corporate world when you get out). There is basically nothing to do either. The bottom line is this goverment sets you up to be a repeat offender once you get caught once in the system, by destroying your life afterwards with many years probation, a felony record that sticks to you like the Scarlet Letter for life, and offering no more education in prison so you have a fighting chance to make it when you get out. There are also no grants available to federal felons for college to my knowledge for when you get out of prison. So if you have no money or no family with money you are basically screwed and forced to do illegal things again even if your intentions are purely good - like needing to make money so you can go back to school so you can get a decent job other than flipping hamburgers. Also, many companies can and do perform background checks now, since our right to privacy is completely shot to hell in this country now since 911. Even if your crime has no bearing on the type of job you are applying for, the vast majority of the time they will not hire you. I don't understand why this government can't make some laws in order to prevent discrimination against felons, since they have anti-discrimination laws for every other type of person in this country.
Good luck dude, and take one word of advice - stay tough and don't ever rat. Not even a little bit. Remember what comes around goes around.
If you are looking at 3 years you did not do bad. OC 80's will bury you in some states. I heard of some guys doing 2 years for like 8 pills dude! And meth...whew! The feds through away the key when they catch you with that stuff. Pot is a joke though. Feds don't give much time for that. It is the OCs and meth that killed you. When you get out, do yourself a favor and don't f%$k around with that stuff anymore. I have seen the best of dudes completely go to shit from Oxys, and meth just makes you a skinny braindead HIV looking person in a matter of months. Stick to doing juice and you will never do another crappy drug again, because you'll get into your training so much. That what these lawmakers don't understand about steroids, they keep you away from drinking and other crappy drugs.
As far as jail goes. My friend just got out and he only did a nothing white-collar crime. He did 18months in a fed camp. The think that sucks - are you ready for this- THE FED JAIL HAVE NO MORE WEIGHTS! Do you believe it? There is only a few left with weights and when their weights break they won't replace them. Also there is no education anymore in Fed jails other than GED programs (Gee, that will prepare you for the corporate world when you get out). There is basically nothing to do either. The bottom line is this goverment sets you up to be a repeat offender once you get caught once in the system, by destroying your life afterwards with many years probation, a felony record that sticks to you like the Scarlet Letter for life, and offering no more education in prison so you have a fighting chance to make it when you get out. There are also no grants available to federal felons for college to my knowledge for when you get out of prison. So if you have no money or no family with money you are basically screwed and forced to do illegal things again even if your intentions are purely good - like needing to make money so you can go back to school so you can get a decent job other than flipping hamburgers. Also, many companies can and do perform background checks now, since our right to privacy is completely shot to hell in this country now since 911. Even if your crime has no bearing on the type of job you are applying for, the vast majority of the time they will not hire you. I don't understand why this government can't make some laws in order to prevent discrimination against felons, since they have anti-discrimination laws for every other type of person in this country.
Good luck dude, and take one word of advice - stay tough and don't ever rat. Not even a little bit. Remember what comes around goes around.
Razorguns
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chem_kid said:
I have never worked a private industry job where they've done a background check on me. I'd fashion the % of employers that do background checks on you to be very very minimal.
Most only do a drug check if that. I've known of none that actually do rap sheet checks. I don't even know any that do credit checks!
LiveFastDieHard
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1. I didnt sell the OC's...my friend gave me the money to get them for him..he is an addict...I dont touch stuff like that anymore...and the meth wasnt even supposed to be there...i never asked for it and i never wanted...it was sent as a "sample" i guess....
2. If the police lied on any of the reasons they had in print to get the search warrant is there a good chance the warrant could be thrown out?
2. If the police lied on any of the reasons they had in print to get the search warrant is there a good chance the warrant could be thrown out?
black sheep
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You're not going to any white collar resort prison. You are going to federal pound me in the ass prison...
Sorry, could not resist the Office Space joke..
Anyway, With your age, and having a clean background, you could get off with Probation believe it or not. Spend the money on the best lawyer. It might take you 3 years to pay him off, but it is better than rotting in jail for 3 years.
Sorry, could not resist the Office Space joke..
Anyway, With your age, and having a clean background, you could get off with Probation believe it or not. Spend the money on the best lawyer. It might take you 3 years to pay him off, but it is better than rotting in jail for 3 years.
I understand Money was an issue with respect to getting proper legal representation, but it may have been a good idea to explain the circumstances to a good attorney and see if he would be willing to help anyway. I use to intern at a legal office, and I have seen manyof people walk thru the doors with nothing, but were able to work out some kind of payment option.
I recall one guy saying he will pay $X amount of dollars out of each pay check. He was like you and did a little dealing, but after being arrested, found a job which will only help come court time.
Not sure where you are in the process of all this, but if it is not to late....i strongly suggest you speaking with an attorney and leave the PD's alone for the more serious cases. Traffic violations...o.k., but when you life is on the line, you have to get it cracking and hit the pavement.
I have even seen lawyers do pro-bono work if you can appeal to them. You have nothing to loose, but everything to gain.
I recall one guy saying he will pay $X amount of dollars out of each pay check. He was like you and did a little dealing, but after being arrested, found a job which will only help come court time.
Not sure where you are in the process of all this, but if it is not to late....i strongly suggest you speaking with an attorney and leave the PD's alone for the more serious cases. Traffic violations...o.k., but when you life is on the line, you have to get it cracking and hit the pavement.
I have even seen lawyers do pro-bono work if you can appeal to them. You have nothing to loose, but everything to gain.
RippedRule
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Wtf does that mean? You would have given him more than 3 years. Why? For possessing an illegal substance? You're on a steroid forum for crying out loud. The guy is going to jail at age 19 and you say some stupid ass bullshit comment like that.
Anyways, I'm from MO and if I were to get caught witht hat weight. With a clean record, you could possibly just get MAJOR probation and TONS of paper work.
chem_kid said:
Thats the truth.
The recidivism rate is rediculously high because of just that.
I got popped once a year ago and when I got out, I had to sell three times as much in order to pay all my bills and fines and barely get by.
Dont get me wrong. You CAN change your life and let this be a one time mistake. Just get ready mentally to kiss your previous lifestyle, credit, and reputation goodbye.
On the bright side it really demonstrates your true character and shows you who your real friends are.
Keep your head up and remember who you are. Most of the greatest men in history were at one time attacked and persecuted by general population. Their ability to stand for their beliefts despite persecution is what made them great.
PnsNv
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Razorguns said:
What??? In Florida there are web sites to check out arrest records, it's public information. It costs employers nothing and you get immediate feedback. EVERY company here does it.
The worst part is that it is Arrest, not Conviction information. So you may have been found "Not Guilty" or had adjudication withheld and it still looks like you're Charlie Manson.
You also get no details. Walking across an enclosed porch to knock on a front door is considered "Burglary of an occupied dwelling": (Home Invasion).
Good Luck with your case
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chewyxrage
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PnsNv said:
That's true in every state. You can search by county. The good thing is if you were young and a trouble maker and then move your employer would have no idea which county you had an arrest record in.
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firenwire
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I didn't read all the post but.....Offer the court the chance to go into the military instead of a criminal record. At 19 they might consider it. Had a friend that outran some cops one night....he actually passed one on a curve that was trying to get to a roadblock set up to stop my friend. Took the dog to take him down. He was 17 at the time and did a couple of years in the navy.
Came out, got his life squared; then died in a carwreck. But he never was a convicted felon.
Came out, got his life squared; then died in a carwreck. But he never was a convicted felon.
Razorguns
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PnsNv said:
You may find this funny -- but there is no NATIONAL DATABASE of arrest records.
All the private companies have to buy databases from states, counties, agencies, etc. and put them together.
Only the FBI has fingerprint information on everyone who has ever been arrested in this country. And that's only available to law enforcement agencies.
So crimainl record checks are pretty inadequate in the private industry. The best you can do is check for active warrants.
Ozz2001
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Man thats along thread...Well if you were in florida and they offered you 3 years id take it and run!!!! Oxy is a class 3 drug something like that along with acid herion ect....I believe they give you like 5 years for that shit unless you snitch someone..Which isnt a smart thing to do either as someone told you to do! Guy that got me caught (snitching) got probation and fucked that up and went to jail they tryed to kill him 2 twice,your geting the idea now..
Your 19 if its your first time you might go to a youthfull offenders prison(we have them here) but its actually worse then cuz its a bunch of kids wanting to fight all the time...Ive done 9 years on and off you can survive its all a mental game, more then physical game..If your pretty it will be worse,mind your own business!Less they know about you the less they will try you! Trust know one! Join a gang and you will end up shanked one day! Dont bitch up and fight if you get tried and you will find new friends quickly! If you dont you will be left to the wolfs! Most people get probation yes..They like to use points each charge carrys points, so many points will tell you how much time you will get.So more charges, more points, more time! They do a p.s.i and go back x amount of years and use them points too on you...So if your caught red handed best to get out cheap and deal with! County jail is the worst and the longer you sit there the smaller and weaker you will get....My Point, your geting off pretty good i think! Meth is all over the news everyday,oxy,roids all top sellers on the new drug laws our wonderful bush came up with...Pot would of just got you probation...One thing to remember bro dont let them talk you into saying you have a drug problem! It will haunt you for life on your record so dont take no programs! If you do you might end up with a lot more tours then this one! Admit nothing, take no paper,do your time and move on!This is for your own good in the long run,you get in the system and your life will really be over... 3 years aint shit might do half and get parole,event that suxs too...you must stay clean then,or you will get sent right back.You live and you learn.... Straight up time and no paper is the best ride out of the system!! Dam the Man......Good luck bro....
Your 19 if its your first time you might go to a youthfull offenders prison(we have them here) but its actually worse then cuz its a bunch of kids wanting to fight all the time...Ive done 9 years on and off you can survive its all a mental game, more then physical game..If your pretty it will be worse,mind your own business!Less they know about you the less they will try you! Trust know one! Join a gang and you will end up shanked one day! Dont bitch up and fight if you get tried and you will find new friends quickly! If you dont you will be left to the wolfs! Most people get probation yes..They like to use points each charge carrys points, so many points will tell you how much time you will get.So more charges, more points, more time! They do a p.s.i and go back x amount of years and use them points too on you...So if your caught red handed best to get out cheap and deal with! County jail is the worst and the longer you sit there the smaller and weaker you will get....My Point, your geting off pretty good i think! Meth is all over the news everyday,oxy,roids all top sellers on the new drug laws our wonderful bush came up with...Pot would of just got you probation...One thing to remember bro dont let them talk you into saying you have a drug problem! It will haunt you for life on your record so dont take no programs! If you do you might end up with a lot more tours then this one! Admit nothing, take no paper,do your time and move on!This is for your own good in the long run,you get in the system and your life will really be over... 3 years aint shit might do half and get parole,event that suxs too...you must stay clean then,or you will get sent right back.You live and you learn.... Straight up time and no paper is the best ride out of the system!! Dam the Man......Good luck bro....
PnsNv
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Ozz2001 said:
I've never been to prison, so I wouldn't attempt to refute anything Ozz2001 says about that, but I have been in recovery for quite a while and would like to put my 2 cents in there: If it causes a problem it is a problem, and if it is a problem, solve it!!
Maybe participating in a drug program -- to help with an addiction that caused you to choose getting high over staying free -- could be used against you in court on a later charge (I doubt it), but look at the inverse: If you get help with your problem, maybe you won't have to go back to prison after this is over!!
Also, Drug Treatment is a form of hospitalization, and is therfore covered under HIPAA privacy laws. Employers can't find out about them, your in-laws can't... Without a court order they cannot say you were treated there, and even with one they can't reveal anything you talked about while you were there. I have worked in Drug Treatment facilities and have written computer programs for Worker's Compensation -- where we had to adhere strictly to HIPAA guidelines -- so I know what I'm talking about here.
You can be "punished for your infraction" or "treated for your problem": It's your choice. Good luck.
The only thing prison demonstrably cures is Heterosexuality.
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caseygabriel
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Get a "real" attorney and quit wasting your time pushing that shit.
chase152
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LiveFastDieHard said:
I wouldn't worry too much, I was locked up for awhile. Did 11 months out of a 2 year sentence. Not the worst thing in the world.. I ate alot, slept, lifted, and read. Never had to fight anyone....
Just make sure that you have a good lawyer. Your lawyer can either make or break you.
PM me if you need details.
If you think you're gonna get along time, it might ne a better idea to head for Switzerland...
craigsuperbig
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Dont give up
Good lawyers make the difference!
Find them
Good lawyers make the difference!
Find them
JustJacked
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Jail aint so bad if your runnin the show. When you get packages its aight!
michoncameoa
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LiveFastDieHard said:
brother are you being tryed in state or federal court? and obviously there talking about runnng you charges concurent . thats why you will only be facing 3 yrs anything over a year you better pray you go to prison f living in county over a year in cali there is no weights no tobaco and really no privilages in in jail go up and youll be back in 18 months on 3 yrs maybee less good luck
Diesel_Smoke
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Why don't you just move to a non-extraditing country? Like some place in South America or Asia, and assume a new identity? I don't know if Brazil extradites or not, but when I was there I loved it. I'd check out Brazil if I was in your situation. Personally, if I was facing more than probably 2 years, I'd skip bail no doubt. America ain't that great and, IMO, definitely not worth sticking around in a situation like your's. You can buy passports from certain governments in third-world countries too, or so my dad says. If you have money, I guess that's the beauty of corrupt governments.
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craigsuperbig
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lets put it this way
we all know Michael Jackson and O.J. Simpson were guilty, but expensive lawyers got them free however.
lawyers make the difference
we all know Michael Jackson and O.J. Simpson were guilty, but expensive lawyers got them free however.
lawyers make the difference
Diesel_Smoke
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craigsuperbig said:
Uh, at the time of this posting, Jackson's defense hasn't even completed presenting their evidence; they've just begun. If you're referring to Jackson's first allegation, that was settled out of court. It never made it to any criminal proceeding (to the best of my knowledge). We're still awaiting for Jackson's ongoing trial to end and jury deliberation to begin, so let's not jump the gun and assume Mesereau has won an accquital just yet.
In some ways it's unfortunate; I personally don't think Jackson has a chance in hell to draw an un-biased jury anywhere in the US, despite his constitutional rights to one.
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Maybe I missed it in the previous postings...but is your case state or federal? Better off being state. Fed prisions were the balls in the 80's and before, but now they suck. No weights, no smoking, no parole, and only 15% good time! State prision at least you're probably looking at serving 50% of your time at most.
Dude...what you were caught with is a joke....think about how many people move that type of volume probably every hour! My heart breaks for drug offenders...it really does. Sux totally. This country is so insane with the time they hand out for drug offenders. They have no idea what it is like to be addicted. Actually, they don't care - that's the sad truth. What benefit does society get by locking everyone up? Isn't prision supposed to be there to protect society from dangerous people? What is so dangerous about someone who gets caught with some weed and some pills? I said this before in a previous posting but I have to say it again. This country has the highest prision population in the world. The American society is obsessed with punishing people and locking people up (especially the republican radical right religious people). How can you call yourself a believer and follower of Jesus and justify supporting the types of punishments being handed out for nothing crimes? So you got caught with a bunch of Oxys - big deal. It's no ones business! Did you beat someone or kill someone to get them? Did you rob a pharmacy? And as for the weed - I won't even go there! Imagine getting locked up for having a plant that grows naturally in the wild! I just don't get it, and I can't take it anymore - seriously.
This country has declared war against its own citizens and no one seems interested in trying to change things. Think about it-the govt. in this country wants people locked up for taking male hormones! Locked up!!!! They are literally telling adults that if you want to get more muscle than your genetics allow, doing so will land you in prision! But it is fine to go and get yourself all carved up, shot up, sucked up, and whatever by a plastic surgeon, and have all fake body parts. That supposed to be safe! That is sending the correct message to our children as they say. Gee, I want my kids to worship those ding-bat airheads Paris Hilton or Pamela Anderson over a superior athlete like Barry Bonds any day - right? Sure.....
Sorry to go off on a tangent like that. Good luck dude. My heart goes out to you.
Dude...what you were caught with is a joke....think about how many people move that type of volume probably every hour! My heart breaks for drug offenders...it really does. Sux totally. This country is so insane with the time they hand out for drug offenders. They have no idea what it is like to be addicted. Actually, they don't care - that's the sad truth. What benefit does society get by locking everyone up? Isn't prision supposed to be there to protect society from dangerous people? What is so dangerous about someone who gets caught with some weed and some pills? I said this before in a previous posting but I have to say it again. This country has the highest prision population in the world. The American society is obsessed with punishing people and locking people up (especially the republican radical right religious people). How can you call yourself a believer and follower of Jesus and justify supporting the types of punishments being handed out for nothing crimes? So you got caught with a bunch of Oxys - big deal. It's no ones business! Did you beat someone or kill someone to get them? Did you rob a pharmacy? And as for the weed - I won't even go there! Imagine getting locked up for having a plant that grows naturally in the wild! I just don't get it, and I can't take it anymore - seriously.
This country has declared war against its own citizens and no one seems interested in trying to change things. Think about it-the govt. in this country wants people locked up for taking male hormones! Locked up!!!! They are literally telling adults that if you want to get more muscle than your genetics allow, doing so will land you in prision! But it is fine to go and get yourself all carved up, shot up, sucked up, and whatever by a plastic surgeon, and have all fake body parts. That supposed to be safe! That is sending the correct message to our children as they say. Gee, I want my kids to worship those ding-bat airheads Paris Hilton or Pamela Anderson over a superior athlete like Barry Bonds any day - right? Sure.....
Sorry to go off on a tangent like that. Good luck dude. My heart goes out to you.
02gixxersix2
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Someone correct me if im wrong but I believe that after 9/11 they passed a law stating that the infraction for which they pulled you over was probable cause enough to search your vehicle. I remember hearing this way back from numerous sources and I know people who were victims of what you would think would be illegal searches that got fucked. By the way say no all you want they will search your car one way or another unless you have your lawyer sitting in the passenger seat or something.deltreefitness said:
This sentence is too severe and makes no sense.
In my state, everything is bargined down due to overcrowding. You'd be picking up papers along the xway on the weekends, not doing big time.
Maybe you do not have the best lawyer in town. Look up the nearest ACLU office and go in to see them.
In my state, everything is bargined down due to overcrowding. You'd be picking up papers along the xway on the weekends, not doing big time.
Maybe you do not have the best lawyer in town. Look up the nearest ACLU office and go in to see them.
The Prosecutor's office wants something.
Sit down with them and ask them point blank.
Then decide what you want to do.
Sit down with them and ask them point blank.
Then decide what you want to do.
LiveFastDieHard
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ya im still around...if i read correctly i believe im only being charged with 1 felony now and the rest are misdemeanor possession charges,,,and i believe the felony is for the pot
Dude don't worry about it, it sounds like your lawyer is decent and the whole pot charge screw it. Just to give you an idea, my boy got poped with 10 pounds in his trunk. 10 damn pounds, he got sentenced to 5 years(he's a repeat offender) and he was out in just over 2. You're fine due to the fact that you're a first time offender and you're very young. You can play it off like a really stupid mistake and you will be fine. Ask your lawyer about a thing called the "diversion program" I got put on that for something FAAAAAR worse. We'll put it this way, my friend and I had a total of 82 federal counts against us and we were off with a slap on the wrist and it never hit my record. I was almost 19 when that happend and now I'm 24 with no record. No matter the outcome, just make sure you do your best to stay out after it happens because it will progressively get worse. I have a friend of mine who is getting ready to go in for 10 years due to the fact this is the 3rd time he's been caught and he was only caught with 25 pills of Xtacy.
Keep us posted and best of luck to ya.
Keep us posted and best of luck to ya.
Beachboy6294
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Phaded said:
I don't know they don't play around with Oxy's!!! They hit you with that like your dealing heroin! I feel for you bro my boy got screwed and it was his third conviction with the other two being simple battery, aggravated assault, and he got caught with less OC than you and a bottle of GHB and he got 8 years in State Prison. Come to find out later his attorney was a scumbag that took his cash and was working with the DA!
sandbar150
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LiveFastDieHard said:
Sorry to hear this. I have friend that was was big time coke dealer. Trafficing, the whole nine yards. FBI tracked him for 3yrs. Got caught and jail sentence was 7yrs in Ohio. He only did 2yrs straight. Even though I never asked how it was and dont know if this helps, but he seems fine. Sorry to hear that. BTW, it was his first offense and probably had decent attny.
sandbar150 said:
I've been a C/O for 15 years, most states anything under 2 and a half year is COunty time, COunty time is WORSE than State time, as that is where most "kids" go, state prisons usually have guys doing large time so they just mostly want to do their time. Just keep your mouth shut, do your time, dont hear or see anything you do not have to. DONT get caught up in "the mix" you go in by yourself, keep it that way, others dont do your time for you. Unfortunately most prisons in the country have done away with the weights, so lots of push-ups, garbage bages with water in them, things like that. Make sure to have your family/friends (if possible) come visit, and write alot of letters so other will write back. The best thing is if whoever your pod/unit C/O is DOESNT know your name, if he/they do, it probably isnt for anything good. Good luck bro, not everyone inside are sh1tbums, but if you let them the dirtbags WILL find you and bring you down with them. Also as someone said, dont let anyone get away with disrespecting you, they WILL test you right away, if you answer the bell, you will have to do some "lock-down" or "seg" time, but the next guy will think twice before "testing" you.
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SonicMonkey
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Dangetinthere
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Jail is not as bad as everybody thinks, shit If i never went to prison I would have never started lifting weights 
The police beat the crap out of me, dislocated my shoulder and left it out of socket without medical attention for a long time, now it's permanently dislocated and I have to have open surgery. They hung me upside down, dropped me head-first in a corner and left me stuck between the toilet and the wall, upside down for a long time.
I would rather be dead than in police custody ever again..
(This is in Oregon, city of Portland Police.)
Lawsuit pending, and my attorney said that I have a great case, but even still if God and Jesus came down to tesitfy on my behalf, you still are pretty hopeless going against those professional liars (police).
I would rather be dead than in police custody ever again..
(This is in Oregon, city of Portland Police.)
Lawsuit pending, and my attorney said that I have a great case, but even still if God and Jesus came down to tesitfy on my behalf, you still are pretty hopeless going against those professional liars (police).
tri~zillla
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2 THINGS i can think of off hand...first if you get hit with 3 years, it might be 3 for 1....here in the south it's 3 for 1.....first, you have to realize they play off your fear....they know you are scared as fuck, and they know you do not want to risk it....second, they always start off sounding like they won't deal, it's the industry standard for the prosecution....why would they let you know they are willing to deal right off the bat??? that would give you too much of a confidence building amount of leverage....they come off sounding like they are pissed at you and your mistake is the kind that they hate.....remember this, so many guys out here have done things that make your charge look like breaking curfew, they deal with murders, pedophiles everyday, and if it is really your first charge you can almost always get a reduction.......anyways, post more about your situation on here and i will reply......peace man.....worst case scenario, sharpen those toothbrushes up 
tri~zillla
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2 THINGS i can think of off hand...first if you get hit with 3 years, it might be 3 for 1....here in the south it's 3 for 1.....first, you have to realize they play off your fear....they know you are scared as fuck, and they know you do not want to risk it....second, they always start off sounding like they won't deal, it's the industry standard for the prosecution....why would they let you know they are willing to deal right off the bat??? that would give you too much of a confidence building amount of leverage....they come off sounding like they are pissed at you and your mistake is the kind that they hate.....remember this, so many guys out here have done things that make your charge look like breaking curfew, they deal with murders, pedophiles everyday, and if it is really your first charge you can almost always get a reduction.......anyways, post more about your situation on here and i will reply......peace man.....worst case scenario, sharpen those toothbrushes up
tri~zillla
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oh and if you hear jokes about your celly throwing a sheet tent...get ready to fight
All depends if you are in a federal case or a state case. Souds like you would do some county time possibly state. I was in federal for over a year a couple years ago for stuff. I read someone say they had 82 counts on a federal level againts them and they got a slap on the wrist. All I can say about that is he must of ratted because the feds DO NOT let you go. They have guide lines they have to follow. I was 21 whe I was charged, they didn't give a fuck. And I never had any prior charge. Prison is not bad but remember there are different security levels from minimum to maximum. It can be a cake walk or it can be the real deal. Totally depends where you guy and what security level. Just don't let yourself get walked on but don't fight everyone who looks at you wrong. Every fight you get in will jsut increase your security level.
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Anthony Roberts
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I did 6 months, 15 days. It's not being there, per se, but not being with your loved ones. Than againk being locked in a cage like an animal has the tendency to turn you into one if you let it...
When you get caught with two kilos and get off it is not called plea bargaining it is RATTING. You cannot jsut say it was a mistake. Take it from my experience.I served time for X back in the day and served time. It was not a large amount and no where near the same as kilos.
brother_swole
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Re: Whats jail really like? / reply
First, Jail sux, period!
Second, u can make it through without getting ass raped, without getting punked, without issue.
How? Stay out of the way.
There is more in Prison then cells and inmates.
School is the best way to go, work lots a jobs, groups, church and depending upon the camp you are in some exercise availability.
If you don't have a relationship with God, get one!
Number one rule, DO NOT LIVE THERE, STAY THERE!
If you make it your home away from home, you have unconsciously made it OK to be there. (what I mean is don’t get in with the crowds, you’ll want comforts and amenities, some live for this in there.)
You will seek out all the things that make u feel good, food, phone, amenities, letters, clothes, exercise and whatever makes it ok for that day.
I am saying get ONLY what you need and just use prison as a stepping stone not a destination, (I suggest college because of you age).
You can overcome and adapt by staying busy, and out the way.
U fucked up, OK, get on with it, prepare mentally. Unless you’re a flippin GUMPY you wont have issues.
During my stay, I never had one fight or altercation etc. I received my 2year degree (A.A.) there and came out and completed my bachelors degree
In PA. you can go to colleges and from the time U say you are looking at can complete an Associates degree in less than 2years and if you leave early your credits will transfer.
Hope this helps!
How do I know...
I spent 2.5 in Ohio’s finest....
God bless – stay focused
First, Jail sux, period!
Second, u can make it through without getting ass raped, without getting punked, without issue.
How? Stay out of the way.
There is more in Prison then cells and inmates.
School is the best way to go, work lots a jobs, groups, church and depending upon the camp you are in some exercise availability.
If you don't have a relationship with God, get one!
Number one rule, DO NOT LIVE THERE, STAY THERE!
If you make it your home away from home, you have unconsciously made it OK to be there. (what I mean is don’t get in with the crowds, you’ll want comforts and amenities, some live for this in there.)
You will seek out all the things that make u feel good, food, phone, amenities, letters, clothes, exercise and whatever makes it ok for that day.
I am saying get ONLY what you need and just use prison as a stepping stone not a destination, (I suggest college because of you age).
You can overcome and adapt by staying busy, and out the way.
U fucked up, OK, get on with it, prepare mentally. Unless you’re a flippin GUMPY you wont have issues.
During my stay, I never had one fight or altercation etc. I received my 2year degree (A.A.) there and came out and completed my bachelors degree
In PA. you can go to colleges and from the time U say you are looking at can complete an Associates degree in less than 2years and if you leave early your credits will transfer.
Hope this helps!
How do I know...
I spent 2.5 in Ohio’s finest....
God bless – stay focused
LiveFastDieHard said:
letsrun4it
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Keep us updated man
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bigmark1515
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I agree 100%Mad Max2 said:
1Mistake2006
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OK..I just got out of the Feds (70 month) and ask any questions you'd like....Not dumb shit...but real questions.
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LiveFastDieHard said:
dude check it out, what ever you wanna know i will tell ya. i just did 10 fuckin years for meth, and been out a week........what a culture shock!!!!!!!!!first, i dont know where you are but you will know if it is fed or state by what jail you were in. were you in a county jail? if so state charge, you better hope so the feds give long sentances. prison is differnt from state to state, but it really depends on your nature. if you are not soft by nature, dont trip. just go in confident and quiet watch what is going on for a few months, dont borrow nothin, dont kick it with anyone just stand back and watch. prison varys so much that sayin how it will be is hard. i did most my time at mcneil island in washington and it was crazy, other than pussy we could get anything. if all you have is dope, you might go directly to a work camp depending on how much time you get. in washington under 4 years you can go strait to camp if you dont have a voilent beef. camp is just like working logging. overall really you should not stress, i saw some weak people do fine in prison and if you got hustle prison ends up like a college enviroment, i was selling juice at mcneil for 3 years, even to the cops. really though dont trip, go to school, i got 3 degrees, free education and you dont have much to do but study
later
LiquidPhire
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LiveFastDieHard said:
thats really not THAT bad to be quite honest with you, I was arrested for distribution of cocaine to a DEA agent and conspiracy , hand2hand with a DEA and I got OFF , had to work the system a bit and hire my lawyer who is the MAN! but all in all right people right things said and ur good. But i dont know anyone else who got it like me, especially without snitching which im strongly against. If ya gotta do ya time , do your time and come out. Also I dont know the story behind it and what evidence they have on you... but dont give up hope! Best of luck to ya from a former hustler
solarclimax
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I think's it's sad that the amount of time you spend in prison is determined by how good your lawyer is. Sorry sir you can't afford a good lawyer, your going to have to spend an extra couple of years in prison. 
Also can you actually go to prison for jay walking ? No wonder your country has gone to shit, all the authoritative decisions are being made by hippies.
Also can you actually go to prison for jay walking ? No wonder your country has gone to shit, all the authoritative decisions are being made by hippies.
LiquidPhire
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Jail sucks , depending on the level of security and who they house.
The local jail here is horrible , maximum security 23 hour lock down , and no weights ;/
Even if you didnt do something really horrible and end up in there its still 23 hour lock down for whoever the fuck you be. pretty shitty for people like me who go stir crazy....
Im told County jails are for the most part are walks in the park, but its different everywhere ya go. Federal prisons are bad in some aspects and good in some others. Better food/More stuff to do but if your not big you can expect to be holding someones pocket , ha
The local jail here is horrible , maximum security 23 hour lock down , and no weights ;/
Even if you didnt do something really horrible and end up in there its still 23 hour lock down for whoever the fuck you be. pretty shitty for people like me who go stir crazy....
Im told County jails are for the most part are walks in the park, but its different everywhere ya go. Federal prisons are bad in some aspects and good in some others. Better food/More stuff to do but if your not big you can expect to be holding someones pocket , ha
Agent Dana Scully
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reltihrj said:
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Hey,
I just wanted to say USA is really retarded on their drug law's. I live in canada and yes its illegal to poses 2 pounds of chronic but u you wont go to jail for 2 years not even 2 weeks! This your first offence and why should you be forced to join the military? fighting for your country when they do this to you?
Am i the only one that see's something wrong with this.
I just wanted to say USA is really retarded on their drug law's. I live in canada and yes its illegal to poses 2 pounds of chronic but u you wont go to jail for 2 years not even 2 weeks! This your first offence and why should you be forced to join the military? fighting for your country when they do this to you?
Am i the only one that see's something wrong with this.
Hey,
I just wanted to say USA is really retarded on their drug law's. I live in canada and yes its illegal to poses 2 pounds of chronic but u you wont go to jail for 2 years not even 2 weeks! This your first offence and why should you be forced to join the military? fighting for your country when they do this to you?
Am i the only one that see's something wrong with this.
I just wanted to say USA is really retarded on their drug law's. I live in canada and yes its illegal to poses 2 pounds of chronic but u you wont go to jail for 2 years not even 2 weeks! This your first offence and why should you be forced to join the military? fighting for your country when they do this to you?
Am i the only one that see's something wrong with this.
paratrooper81
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hey mate, iv just been caught with a shit load, maybe we can be pen pal jail buddys lol
solarclimax
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Make sure you take lots of starch, big bubba likes u to use starch when your washing his draws.
DO not talk shit about people in jail to other people in jail, rumors spread in your unit fast and it will get back 10x's fold. I am serious, do not make a side comment that, that fat fuck is eatting 2 plate or anything. Do not worry about getting raped or any BS like that. Majority of ppl just want to do there time and get the fuck out early on good behavior.
1968Charger
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stay away from people trying to be your friend right away if you go .all they will do is set you up later on and jump you or worse!! watch to see who is who and keep quite .if some slacker fucks with you hand him his ass ,you will get respect and they will know not to try you again .have some one send you $ for items you can use as $ that you buy from the prsion that way you can live some what! and about the gangs ,if your going in for 3 years they might have you get things for them but its not enough time to really have them pull you in fully .you can also by a job in the pen from people in controll(gangs and so on) .you just have to watch and see whos who and you are allowed one package going in ,a 65lbs package make sure its all you will need ,it will help you wheel and deal .hopfully you wont have to go threw all that . good luck
solarclimax
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If some dumm gang member tries starting shit with you, just rip his head off and shit down his neck shouting (verses 5, 7-8) from the bible and then cut off his balls and make beef stew with them and see how many people still wanna run some shit.
1968Charger
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oh snap "LOL"solarclimax said:
mr_disfunkshun
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well first Off PA is a bitch its a commen law state ............ And second you will do state time ....belive me you are better off In the long run ............ as far as time that seems a little harsh ........ But the Da calls the shots .......... So the best you can hope for is that they run the charges concurrent ........ so ......... state time is not easy but if you keep your eyes open .... dont walk with a chip on your shoulder becasue thats just asking for someone to try you ........make sure that you get with a group of people that sits in between like christans choose the wrong side and you canb wind up in a bad place .................... and last but not least .......... make sure you have PLENTY OF COMASARRY Money becasue inside the walls thats whats rules ... remeber that there are guys there that are doing life and you just have a three year BID ...... so stay clear of gangs and bad groups belive it or not christan groups get mad respect ........... Thats my 2 cents ............. and On a note the min some one does do somthing wait till mess and take your fork and stick it through one side of his cheek out the other side ............ he will live but Be fucked up for some time and you will get 60 90 in the hole but when you get out they will move you to a different tear of the prison ........ but after 90 days the only dude pissed is the one the got the fork but no life taken and NO added time
solidspine
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You will go to State Prison not Jail, Jail is a county thing and Prison is state or federal,
First offense?
19, The DA was of course a prick to nail you with all those charges, you will probably go to a minimum security prison, or a work farm.
Safer and better than a State Prison.
If the DA ask for three years, you will get two and serve 6 months to one year. Minimum security and work farms are not summer camp, but you are less likely to get raped or murdered.
Prisons in California are segregated, Blacks, Hispanics, Arian brothers and older guys are all kept separate. Everyone has there own Shot Guard.
If they weren’t everyone would kill everyone else, I am not kidding.
I don’t know about Pennsylvania, but there are no weights in California Prison, and you can’t get gear, drugs and booze yes but no gear, go figure.
Sounds like you are white guy, so guess who you will want to hang with, DON’T act scared or tuff, just be as relaxed as possible, you will find a grove and be fine.
I was in last year 2nd time, for possession and loaded firearms, I am only 5’5” 185 on gear most of the time, Then maybe 190-195, middle of a serious cycle. I am 56 years old, and for the first few months (don’t know really how long) I was with southsiders, Hispanic gang here in LA and I think everywhere, Most of the kids were in there early 20’s just gang bangers. They were cool, then I finished in the hospital ward, was sick, thank you Jesus.
Don’t worry, get someone to send you a lot of books. Nothing to do, boredom will drive you do want drugs.
First offense?
19, The DA was of course a prick to nail you with all those charges, you will probably go to a minimum security prison, or a work farm.
Safer and better than a State Prison.
If the DA ask for three years, you will get two and serve 6 months to one year. Minimum security and work farms are not summer camp, but you are less likely to get raped or murdered.
Prisons in California are segregated, Blacks, Hispanics, Arian brothers and older guys are all kept separate. Everyone has there own Shot Guard.
If they weren’t everyone would kill everyone else, I am not kidding.
I don’t know about Pennsylvania, but there are no weights in California Prison, and you can’t get gear, drugs and booze yes but no gear, go figure.
Sounds like you are white guy, so guess who you will want to hang with, DON’T act scared or tuff, just be as relaxed as possible, you will find a grove and be fine.
I was in last year 2nd time, for possession and loaded firearms, I am only 5’5” 185 on gear most of the time, Then maybe 190-195, middle of a serious cycle. I am 56 years old, and for the first few months (don’t know really how long) I was with southsiders, Hispanic gang here in LA and I think everywhere, Most of the kids were in there early 20’s just gang bangers. They were cool, then I finished in the hospital ward, was sick, thank you Jesus.
Don’t worry, get someone to send you a lot of books. Nothing to do, boredom will drive you do want drugs.
DarkEnigma
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This is just my experience. I experienced this but everyone takes something different away from prison. I did a year in the can. First off, don't let anyone punk you. When I was going in, one of the guards told me "Give respect then you get respect but don't take any shit from anyone." The first time some dude bumped into me, I didn't say excuse me or anything, I just turned around and started fighting for my life. I learnt it shows the other inmates that you ain't a pushover and you ain't gonna let anyone treat you like a bitch. Second, don't get in debt to anyone for any reason. In prison, dudes that have life or death sentences will kill you over a fucking saltine cracker...I seen the shit myself. They have nothing to lose so if you are in debt to someone all that person has to do is offer a lifer a pack of smokes or couple of candy bars and your a marked man because what's the worst that's gonna happen to them?? An extra life or death sentence?? Third, do your time and nobody else's. Get an education and make the best out of negative situation. Get a degree and get your mind right...prision is a life changing experience. You gonna see shit you never wanted to see or never thought you'd see. Last thing, get right with Jesus. He is gonna be your best friend in there because in a place like that, you have no friends.
1Mistake2006
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Bro 3 yrs isn't the end of the world. County time sucks...State in usually more violent than the Feds but depends on your level. Fed camps are the easiest..the Pens are the worst. I was at a Fed low/med security and it wasn't too bad. BE RESPECTFUL!!! If you walk into someone,apologize..that shit is important. My first 2 weeks in I watched a kid get hit in the face with a lead pipe..that was pretty shocking at first but you'll get into a groove. Hang with a few good guys and you'll be good. IT WILL CHANGE YOU!! I'm much more violent now because thats the only emotion you can show inside. I've only been out for 6 months so I'm still adjusting. Stay away from punk,drugs, gangs & gambling debts..all problems. Have your people write you because that really helps. Even if you think you'll take a beating..do it! It gets respect,otherwise you'll be a target. DO NOT gossip because that starts tons of shit. I almost got stabbed a couple times over dumb shit. Other whites won't let you get fucked up if they think you're an ok dude. People just want their good time and go home. Beware the black Muslims as they are very violent and pretty much hate whites. DC blacks are the worst in the whole system..they'll fuck you any way possible..leave them alone(in general) Just do your thing and you'll survive
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holtzapple123
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i cant read all the entries state or fed?
dude u going to get probation maybe community service i got caught with 40 pills of x and 60 hits of acid got a good lawyer and ended up geting probation two years and 500 hours of community service (first affence) but good luck pay the money for a good lawyer and u will be fine
catdaddyz1
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Seek different counsel, 1st offense should get some poby time and half-way house, not hard time, but the oxy is what is screwing you, they are down on that.
Fuck that!!!!! Tell them you're a fucking junky and instead of going to jail they will put you on supervised probation and make you take urins for 6 months or so. Worse case senario, make you go to rehab for 6 months. I would do that instead of doing 2,3,4,5 whatever years. By the way I've done that years ago. First bust, clean record, no priors. 6 months probation with urins.
cityhick
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It aint to bad. As long as you keep yourself outta maximum security its not to bad at all. D-Block(max security here) really time stops. And the fuckin looney bin is right accross from where I was at and those motha fuckers dont sleep and start lots of shit with gaurds so they will take away your privliges. Get ready for a lot of Spades and Grape drink.
sardonicone
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No one seems to notice this was posted back in 05...
Good luck
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ShowKidd
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just use your AR (accelerated rehabilitation) it is your get out of jail free card. everyone has one no matter what state you live in so don't let them play dumb when you ask for it. they would rather put you in jail but plead not guilty the whole time and tell them you want your AR- its like $100 and you may have to do some community service.also it will nolly the felony charges and you will keep a clean record, good luck PM me with any questions and write me an update i will help as much as i can. they tried bringing me down for the same shit.
javaguru said:
Ive been in
Fed Medium
Fed Low
Fed Camp
State
Fed Medium is hell on Earth
Fed Low is hell on Earth with cool washcloths
Fed Camp is not so bad
State sucks giant donkey cock
The worst part about being locked up for me and most people I knew besides the ones who had to fight for their anus to remain private was being away from family when shit goes badly for them. Being unable to do anything but hear them tell you they need you. Being locked up while they cant make rent, the kids are crying for you, and the woman is thinking that she really needs a companion for so many reasons but hopes she can stick it out with you because she knows she really does LOVE you... just NEEDS you right NOW and you are so, so, so far away.
Not one motherfucker hurt me in there. Well, one did, accidentially. You cant go get it stitched up because you will go to the hole. You deal with it.
You will learn to DEAL with EVERYTHING.
Look into Buddhism. Practice while youre in there. It will help pass the time. Then when you get out, forget about it.
Write every day. Read a lot. Break your bid up into not months or weeks but things that you can do. Get a degree or something.
Hopefully you will get visits.
Learn to like Mackerel.
Are you doing state or Fed? Sounds like State.
Fed sucks because you do MORE time. Even if you are a perfect, model prisoner, youre doing 85 percent of your time. No early release or parole unless you get the drug program (RDAP) and if you get that you just get stuck in a half way house (jail, still, really) for an extra 6 maddening months. I dont know anyone who was glad they took the RDAP program.
You got caught and now you will go to jail... but the worst part is when you get out. Oh Lordy Lordy... that will be fun for you.
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TtTrain said:
Dude, you must be bored as hell...
I'll hit you on AIM later today...as soon as I put a lipper in...
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