what's hurting me?

[marc51000r]

Brothers!...

I'm banging 50mg of Test-P and 40mg of Tren-A ED. It's been about two weeks. Lookin good so far.

Problem is the injection pain. I'm no pussy...I've done t-400 and win in the past, but this is ridiculous. To the point where I've had to rotate my pecs, tris, delts, quads and glutes as injection sites. I've even started splitting the injection on that day (ex. half in one tri, half in the other).

The injected muscle gets so sore that it's out of commission for 4 days after.

What's doing it...the test-p or tren-a

 

[Rage-Of-Sparta]

it could be either giving you pain. try just tren in a shot and then prop in the other. judging by the pain you will know for sure which one is hurting u. try warming the oil under faucet water or cut it with EQ or grapeseed oil

 

[marc51000r]

i've tried cutting it...i'm pretty sure that it's a myth. it still created a big freaking welt. my left pec was jacked!

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

i've tried cutting it...i'm pretty sure that it's a myth. it still created a big freaking welt. my left pec was jacked!

Do you think the gear is bad? The test should have kicked in by now and the tren should have you sweating pretty good as well.

 

[ryno9000]

maybe the problem is that you ARE splitting the shots within a day. Why make two spots sore in one day if you can just make one sore? Then you have two muscles out of comission for 4 days.

 

[marc51000r]

pretty confident that the gear is good. as we speak i'm sweating and my office is freezing. strength is up, so is vascularity.

the shots are being split across the same muscle (left pec/right pec, left quad/right quad, etc...). the thinking was to shoot half as much and get twice the recovery.

 

[pimparealwoman]

I'm a 'sister', but I think in today's day and age my 2p are just a good not?!..;P..hehe...I'm pretty sure it's the Test Prop. It's infamous for leaving a pretty sore injection site...especially if you inject it in 'little' muscles like a tri or a pec (don't get me wrong...'little' in comparision to a quadriceps or a glute..No intention to pass judgement over the size of your pecs or tri's..)..I wouldn't dare!..)..Some people are more prone to it then others as well...

Best,

B!

 

[xrsist]

bake it then shoot before you train

 

[halfcenturian]

bake it then shoot before you train

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+1 This will "bake off" any excess BA (alcohol) that might be causing the pain.
Very typical of Prop.


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[Chocolate_Thunder]

If you're using vials and not human grade amps it's the prop. The BA in the prop is what is causing you the pain. Bake it like the others have suggested.

 

[marc51000r]

thanks b and brothers... i know it's not the small muscle problem. my tris and delts seem to have recovered quickest. my quads on the other hand buckle when going up stairs.

baking gear, eh? i think i'll just blow some warm bubbles into the gear with a straw.

or maybe stick it out...

 

[iceman7230]

Is it UG grade or Pharm grade?

 

[marc51000r]

the Test-P is UG. so is the Tren-A (obviously)

 

[Makavelli]

It's the prop. Prop is a c-3, bee venom is a c-2. That's why prop hurts so much. Prop is notorious for pain. I can't use it anymore.

 

[water buffalo]

Brothers!...

I'm banging 50mg of Test-P and 40mg of Tren-A ED. It's been about two weeks. Lookin good so far.

Problem is the injection pain. I'm no pussy...I've done t-400 and win in the past, but this is ridiculous. To the point where I've had to rotate my pecs, tris, delts, quads and glutes as injection sites. I've even started splitting the injection on that day (ex. half in one tri, half in the other).

The injected muscle gets so sore that it's out of commission for 4 days after.

What's doing it...the test-p or tren-a

I'll tell ya couple of things i've done in the past that has caused me greif. One was injecting to fast...it really hurt and knotted up for days and I was 4 weeks into a Test Propionate cycle so my shots weren't hurting much at all. The other time I injected while the rubbing alcohol wasn't quite dry on the injection site. I thought i'd share this with ya just in case. The other guys suggestions will like help you along better. Goodluck

 

[FunFun]

Here's a comprehensive article explaining the reasons for post injection pain, with quite a bit of info on propionate.

A Guide to Post-Injection Muscular Pain

 

[joe d]

when i inject test prop any where in my legs it hurts like a bitch. im like a 90 year ols trying to get out of bed in the morning for 3 days like you. but when i hit the shoulder i am a little sore for that day but good to go. it is def. my favorite spot.

 

[Big_Joe]

It's the prop. I have tried cutting it in half with oil, didn't help. I have cut it with B12, didn't help. A lot of people say to bake the gear an it will drive off the BA, through evaporation. This just wouldn't work. If you have ever seen a still work you understand why. The alcohol will just condense on the inside of the vial and fall back into solution. If baking the gear reduces the pain from the prop it's because it's breaking down the molecule and making something other then testosterone propionate. Meaning the gear has been reduced in potency.

I think the thing to do is use a different ester of testosterone. Even if you use sus, that has prop in it and hurts a lot of people, it's still test. There is really no reason that the dosing schedule for the tren needs to match the test. ( The reason test prop has been recommended for use with tren-a is because they both have daily, or eod, injection schedules. )

 

[marc51000r]

awesome insight les boys. i'm not a fan of playing pharmacist and messing with the molecular composition of gear by "baking it". my guess is that the BA is there for a reason, no?

i pretty much have the same issue of plugging my quads vs my delts.

delts recover and are ready for more in 2 days....quads are still buckling after 3 days. i think i'll just completely avoid my quads and rotate between delts, tris, chest and glutes

 

[iceman7230]

Sounds like a bad batch! Tell the UG to clean his shiz-up!

I know prop hurts but if you get good quality it will not hurt bad.