what's good at controlling hunger?

[bigtasty25]

i just came off a contest 2.5 weeks ago and bulking on 2500 cals which is fine for me because i have a slow metabolism..weigh is about 185-190 at 5'9...i eat mostly vegies, brown rice, yams, oatmeal, extra lean beef, extra lean chicken, ny strips, basically very healthy..with omegas, cla, MCT oil, sesathin, lecthin...i get the cravings late at night only usually...would merdia be the way to go? i found hoodia only moderately effective...only works a couple hours then im starving as fuck...
on tren, test, deca...

 

[cubuff27]

2500 cal seems awfully low for 190lbs and bulking and if you are just done with a contest then you need to be really trying to put that gear you take to work for you building mass. The last thing I would do is try to control my hunger..let it lead you. When I am on cycle (always) I am NEVER hungry because I am always forcing food down my throat trying to get bigger!

 

[Ulter]

These will help

 

[driftwood]

Have you ever tried chromium FOR GLYCEMIC CONTROL (not for fat burning, which is nonsense)? I read a real nice article, well published in some good peer reviewed journal (I can find it for you if you want) and then I decided to use it myself. I am hyperinsulinemic, therefore, I used to be ALWAYS hungry and/or hypo. The paper experiment used 1000mcg in male subjects, so I decided to use 600mcg, because of my very small weight (I'm a small woman). The recommended dosage is 200mcg, according to manufacturers. Well... It works for me! No hunger, even when cutting... And I'm on a highP/lowC diet.

 

[racoon_city]

actually anabolics like NPP and var dull my appetite, i notice off cycle my hunger soars

 

[bigtasty25]

2500 cal seems awfully low for 190lbs and bulking and if you are just done with a contest then you need to be really trying to put that gear you take to work for you building mass. The last thing I would do is try to control my hunger..let it lead you. When I am on cycle (always) I am NEVER hungry because I am always forcing food down my throat trying to get bigger!

2500 calories is definately not awfully low if you dieted for a few months on 1600 calories...i mean heck...i dont wanna get up to 22% bodyfat in 4 months after my show like i did after my first show (i ate very clean and still went up to 22% or so unfortunately...ate too many cals...4000 or so the last month, caloric control for me is crucial if i want to maintain a lower bodyfat this time around)...so im trying to play it safe..by no means is it hard for me to gain weight (fat and muscle)...i can eat anything in site...so...i dont wanna overdo it..then just have to diet is off again later on..whats the point of gaining 6 lbs of lean body mass if i gained 6-12lbs of bodyfat with it?

 

[ortiz34]

To control my late night hunger I eat pussy

No calories and all the taste!

 

[growinsc]

lol

 

[Prizz]

2500 calories is definately not awfully low if you dieted for a few months on 1600 calories...i mean heck...i dont wanna get up to 22% bodyfat in 4 months after my show like i did after my first show (i ate very clean and still went up to 22% or so unfortunately...ate too many cals...4000 or so the last month, caloric control for me is crucial if i want to maintain a lower bodyfat this time around)...so im trying to play it safe..by no means is it hard for me to gain weight (fat and muscle)...i can eat anything in site...so...i dont wanna overdo it..then just have to diet is off again later on..whats the point of gaining 6 lbs of lean body mass if i gained 6-12lbs of bodyfat with it?

I'm the same as you Bigtasty.... Slow metabolism, and I can grow muscle on 2000-2500cals per day, and I'm 5' 11'' 220lbs..... Best supplement I use that curbs my hunger is good old ECA, or just EC..... Non Beta 2 supplement that curbs hunger are the ones Ulter linked, and Stimulant X..... I would say get on ECA though.... I can just drink shakes all day if I wanted to when using ECA, and never get hungry..... Maybe it's just me though???

rizz

 

[KOArtist]

if youre doing a cycle, throw in anavar, it definitely lessens your appetite

 

[Baywatch69]

Meridia worked well for me

 

[bigmark1515]

Meridia worked well for me

I want to try this, Ive heard its very effective for the late night cravings

 

[bigtasty25]

interesting guys...very cool...i have chromium on hand so i just popped 600mgs with a cheat meal i decided to have...felt really hungry so just decided to cheat clean with 3 rice cakes with no sodium PB on top and sugar free honey, 1.5 cups whole wheat pasta (dried, broiled it of course), 1/2 of a lowfat high protein bar, 3 pieces lowfat semi low carb whole wheat bread..i took also with this with this:
600mgs chromium
2 grams sesathin
600 mgs r-ala
2 caps white kidney bean extract (its been shown in clinical studies to be able to excrete starchy carbs supposedly)
(15 minutes be4 hand took a couple enzymes, 30 mins after the meal had 2 more)


been 30 mins since this now and wheww im a little sleepy...hunger gone..lmao...hey at least i did a "controlled" cheat i suppose...
can i use lipo 6 in place of the synephrine since it has this in it, and some caffeine? i have it on hand...
thnx again 4 the replies..

 

[bigtasty25]

oh wait wait a second...it jsut hit me that the igf im taking (10mcg twice per day) is hyperinsulemic i believe..could this be a cause of the hunger cravings? would humalog post workout with my igf decrease cravings? of course using 1/2 the normal slin post workout dose due to the igf administration which prolongs it (balence out my insulin levels a bit..plus i heard they are synergistic if used post workout)

suggestions?
i also have gh on hand..but this is hyperinsulemic also isnt it? so i guess using half igf half gh isnt a good idea lol..as u know, my diet is tailered to having low insulin levels..while bulking, by eating good healthy food...BUT

during my dieting period of 17 weeks on 2000 cals ramping down to 1600 for 2-3 months, with 2 hours cardio a day, moderately low carbs...i didnt have ANY appetite whatsoever...never even thought of junkfood! LOL!!! (must be due to low insulin levels)

so..im a little stumped on this 1..during dieting i have no appetite...during bulking...TOO MUCh appetite...ughhh...just what i need...a beer belly again (NOT)..LOL.

 

[cubuff27]

God bless those guys that can gain muscle on 2000-2500 calories...I wish I could do that. I need 4000 calories just to maintain my weight, let alone put on any weight.

I guess I am still in the old school world where I think calories are king for bulking.

 

[blueta2]

Why not do something natural to control hunger?
What I use it either licorice or as weird as this sounds, cough drops (Ricola).
The menthol makes you NOT want to eat.

 

[KOArtist]

doesn't too much licorice actually cause estrogen levels to rise? IIRC, licorice does have some sort of effect on estrogen, just a heads up, since I see blueta is female.

 

[manny78]

Meridia is the way to go.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

i found the most effective way to control hunger is to make sure that ALL of my meals are low volume. then when im craving badly, i can eat some salad etc and i fill up. despite my background im a huge fan of non drug measures to do what i need.

the appetite suppressants that i am schooled in (amphetamines, really) are all on script and are problematic at night anyway

cheers

 

[bigtasty25]

good replies guys! im just using hoodia mostly to control appetite with a gram of chromium spread out throughout the day with some cinammon and rala to control insulin levels. Im going to buy some meridia today and try it with the above stuff , i really dont wanna come off IGF since my gains from it have been awsome so far, i love the stuff..unless my parents have it (meridia) then ill snatch some off them LOL...r their any sides from meridia?
Ill just use it while on igf and when off it ill use nothing, dont need any appetite suppressants when i diet usually...
P.S: manny, nice avatar, that femme needs a banana in her mouth *knock knock*..LOL


cubuff...youre lucky you can get away with eating a ton of cals to gain size...cuz i love eating food and would love to eat that many...just cant if i wanna look good nekkid...

as they say, "do u wanna look good in clothes, or out of em" (think u guys know the answer..lol)

 

[blueta2]

doesn't too much licorice actually cause estrogen levels to rise? IIRC, licorice does have some sort of effect on estrogen, just a heads up, since I see blueta is female.

You're correct, but it's good for PMS and menopausal women. I am 40 so it's a good suppliment for me.

Check out this site to find out more

http://www.wholehealthmd.com/refshelf/substances_view/1,1525,801,00.html

 

[bigtasty25]

blueta...you look to be in great shape for your age! =0

ill look more into the meridia..thanks guys

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Meridia..