What's better?

[Av2002]

So what would be better in terms of gains and minimal sides, a short 10 week cycle with high dosage or a 20 week cycle with a lower dosage?

10 week cycle - 500 test e EW
20 week cycle - 375 test e EW

Thoughts?


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[STTM]

You won't see much more muscle gains after about the 12 week mark. That is why you usually see cycles that are 10-12 weeks long. There are some exceptions, like running compounds with a long ester like EQ, where you need to run them longer to get the full benefit; or cutting cycles, where the gear will help hold mass in a caloric deficit. You can also still make good strength gains in longer cycles. But it terms of just LBM gains, then 12 weeks is what you should shoot for.

 

[Av2002]

I've been planning:

Week 1-10 - test e 375 ew
Week 1-6 - dbol 30 ED
Week 10-20 test e 125 ew
Week 10-20 tren e 300 ew

What do you think?

Thanks


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[RickRock13]

Just run a 12 week cycle of Test E at 500mg kicked off with Dbol for 4 weeks at 30-40mg per day. Run aromasin at 12.5mg EOD and use N2guard on cycle. That's going to be a better cycle than a 20 week cycle at lower doses and being on that long will make it harder to recover as well. Follow up with the correct PCT

Optimal PCT for best recovery:

Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25 (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
Liquid Aromasin (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
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Ostarine 25mg per day (SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators)


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[hurricane]

i vote 12 weeks.

 

[Race121]

12 wks for reasons STTM said and RR laid out.

 

[TmanDtoo]

run the test and tren for 10-12 weeks together, kick it all off w the dbol. solid cycle there.

 

[25homes]

Go 12 at 500mg add gw and s4 from sarms1 jump start with Dianabulk run aromasin at 12.5mg eod from agguys

 

[meathead96]

Go 12 at 500mg add gw and s4 from sarms1 jump start with Dianabulk run aromasin at 12.5mg eod from agguys

Good advice here. The addition of sarms and dianabulk would really kick it up a notch.

 

[dylangemelli]

the only time i can see running a 20 week cycle is when your using eq and primo and things like that where you can still make steady gains throughout, otherwise there is no reason to do so... i especially don't like your idea on your 20 week cycle at all... here is what i would recommend running...

1-12 test cyp 350 mg week

1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!

1-14 GW-501516 20 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

1-12 s4 50 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

1-4 primobol dex 2 caps a day The #1 Supplier of Pro-Hormones - MyProH.com

1-12 n2guard n2bm.com

5-12 HCGenerate n2bm.com

13-14 Hcg 1000 ius week

9-14 oxandrovar 2 caps a day first 3 weeks then bump to 3 caps a day The #1 Supplier of Pro-Hormones - MyProH.com



PCT 15-18



clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com

nolva 40/20/20/20 ag-guys.com

aromasin 12..5 mg eod AG-guys.com

n2guard n2bm.com

ostarine 25 mg day SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators