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maxwell0612
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I've been out of bodybuilding for a good number of years. Learning of Nasser's death led me to catch myself up on things and I was concerned about the lack of real knowledge and understanding about bodybuilding that is out there. Specifically I'm talking about performance enhancing drugs and their effect on a physique.
I'm not a pharmacologist, a chemist or a self-proclaimed steroid guru. I am simply a retired bodybuilder who placed in the top 5 several times in one of the "top 4" npc national events. I am surprised by the assumption that a normal bodybuilder can achieve greatness simply by taking more and more performance enhancers. So many times I read comments about a top bodybuilder or simply someone with a very good physique that goes something like this: "Yeah he's huge and ripped BUT he must be on a ridiculous amount of shit". With the implication that the person could, if he took the same amount of "shit", look the same. This is totally ridiculous and amounts to the same thing as seeing a Rodger Clemens fastball and saying that if I took the same drugs he did I could throw baseball over 90mph. You are born with what you are born with, DEAL WITH IT. The Flex Wheelers and Dexter Jacksons and Jay Cutlers are as much freaks of nature as Michael Jordan or Derek Jeter and no amount of drugs will ever get you to their level unless you too are a genetic freak of nature. Nor will more drugs allow you to even look like the biggest guy in the gym or anyone else's physique that you may admire. The only thing you can do is maximize what you have.
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That being said I want to relay my experience in order to possibly limit the trial and error of the young guys on here. I always wanted to be a bodybuilder and luckily I was given a body that was fairly good for bodybuilding. I had good shape and a fast metabolism that allowed me to get into contest shape pretty easily. However, I found it hard to put on size and, though I was always in the top five once I moved to national events, I was always
one of the smaller guys in my class. That was what I had to work with but I fell into the mistake I am talking about. I so loved bodybuilding and so wanted to be a pro and do it for a living that I continued to increase the amount of drugs I took. However my genetic limitations would not go away no matter how many drugs I took. Yes I improved every year and yes if I kept it up eventually I would have turned pro, but I never would have been able to make any money out of it because my genetics were limited. I realize that most that post on here are not competitive bodybuilders but everyone on here is either using performance enhancers or thinking about using them to maximize their potential which is fine, IMO, to do. Just don’t expect to become the guy on the cover of Flex just because you decide to take anabolics.
There is a whole lot of curiosity and speculation as to what the top bodybuilders, both pro and armature as well as that guy in the gym whose physique you admire use. Bodybuilders will talk to other bodybuilders about performance enhancers but for the average guy in the gym or even a young bodybuilder it is hard to get good information and that leads to a lot of mistakes and a waste of a whole lot of cash. In my experience the amount of anabolics someone uses NEVER correlates to the level of their physique. I repeat…NEVER! Before my last contest I had to move up a weight class because I had maxed out at the lower weight. Moving up a class in the NPC at the national level and still being successful is very hard to do so I was anxious about the whole thing. I found myself taking large dosages. My training partner at the time, who was an IFBB pro woman’s BB, introduced me to her trainer (well trainer isn’t exactly the right word he was a performance enhancing drug coach) who had trained a Mr. Olympia winner and a National overall winner as well as countless other top competitors. He lowered everything as soon as I started working with him. I used less than I had ever used even when I was doing local contests. I weighed in 15 pounds heavier at my next contest (1 year later), which is a huge amount of pure muscle to put on in a year, and was able to place 3rd in the higher weight class. The bottom line, from my experience, is that if you choose to use anabolics for whatever reason you DO NOT need large doses and I have never seen large doses result in a better physique than reasonable ones. It is simply a huge waste of money. I know all the “experts” will give all their pharmacological reasons why someone needs, say, more than 300 mgs of test every 6 days. But I don’t care what, theoretically, should work. It’s all bullshit. Do yourself a favor and do two things. 1. Never compare yourself to someone else. You are what you are and can only maximize YOUR potential. And 2. LARGE DOSES of anabolics are not needed and will only result in frustration, more side effects and a much smaller bank account. If anyone has any questions you can pm me. Again, I am no expert but I am willing to be honest about things which is something that is very hard to find among bodybuilders.
I'm not a pharmacologist, a chemist or a self-proclaimed steroid guru. I am simply a retired bodybuilder who placed in the top 5 several times in one of the "top 4" npc national events. I am surprised by the assumption that a normal bodybuilder can achieve greatness simply by taking more and more performance enhancers. So many times I read comments about a top bodybuilder or simply someone with a very good physique that goes something like this: "Yeah he's huge and ripped BUT he must be on a ridiculous amount of shit". With the implication that the person could, if he took the same amount of "shit", look the same. This is totally ridiculous and amounts to the same thing as seeing a Rodger Clemens fastball and saying that if I took the same drugs he did I could throw baseball over 90mph. You are born with what you are born with, DEAL WITH IT. The Flex Wheelers and Dexter Jacksons and Jay Cutlers are as much freaks of nature as Michael Jordan or Derek Jeter and no amount of drugs will ever get you to their level unless you too are a genetic freak of nature. Nor will more drugs allow you to even look like the biggest guy in the gym or anyone else's physique that you may admire. The only thing you can do is maximize what you have.
.
That being said I want to relay my experience in order to possibly limit the trial and error of the young guys on here. I always wanted to be a bodybuilder and luckily I was given a body that was fairly good for bodybuilding. I had good shape and a fast metabolism that allowed me to get into contest shape pretty easily. However, I found it hard to put on size and, though I was always in the top five once I moved to national events, I was always
one of the smaller guys in my class. That was what I had to work with but I fell into the mistake I am talking about. I so loved bodybuilding and so wanted to be a pro and do it for a living that I continued to increase the amount of drugs I took. However my genetic limitations would not go away no matter how many drugs I took. Yes I improved every year and yes if I kept it up eventually I would have turned pro, but I never would have been able to make any money out of it because my genetics were limited. I realize that most that post on here are not competitive bodybuilders but everyone on here is either using performance enhancers or thinking about using them to maximize their potential which is fine, IMO, to do. Just don’t expect to become the guy on the cover of Flex just because you decide to take anabolics.
There is a whole lot of curiosity and speculation as to what the top bodybuilders, both pro and armature as well as that guy in the gym whose physique you admire use. Bodybuilders will talk to other bodybuilders about performance enhancers but for the average guy in the gym or even a young bodybuilder it is hard to get good information and that leads to a lot of mistakes and a waste of a whole lot of cash. In my experience the amount of anabolics someone uses NEVER correlates to the level of their physique. I repeat…NEVER! Before my last contest I had to move up a weight class because I had maxed out at the lower weight. Moving up a class in the NPC at the national level and still being successful is very hard to do so I was anxious about the whole thing. I found myself taking large dosages. My training partner at the time, who was an IFBB pro woman’s BB, introduced me to her trainer (well trainer isn’t exactly the right word he was a performance enhancing drug coach) who had trained a Mr. Olympia winner and a National overall winner as well as countless other top competitors. He lowered everything as soon as I started working with him. I used less than I had ever used even when I was doing local contests. I weighed in 15 pounds heavier at my next contest (1 year later), which is a huge amount of pure muscle to put on in a year, and was able to place 3rd in the higher weight class. The bottom line, from my experience, is that if you choose to use anabolics for whatever reason you DO NOT need large doses and I have never seen large doses result in a better physique than reasonable ones. It is simply a huge waste of money. I know all the “experts” will give all their pharmacological reasons why someone needs, say, more than 300 mgs of test every 6 days. But I don’t care what, theoretically, should work. It’s all bullshit. Do yourself a favor and do two things. 1. Never compare yourself to someone else. You are what you are and can only maximize YOUR potential. And 2. LARGE DOSES of anabolics are not needed and will only result in frustration, more side effects and a much smaller bank account. If anyone has any questions you can pm me. Again, I am no expert but I am willing to be honest about things which is something that is very hard to find among bodybuilders.
