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What was Kerry's tragic error?

Where did John Kerry go wrong?

  • Flip-flop on the war in Iraq

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • Flip-flop on the Patriot Act

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • Promising to Raise Taxes

    Votes: 2 9.1%
  • Choosing John Edwards as a running mate

    Votes: 1 4.5%
  • Trying to run solely on his record as a Vietnam Vet

    Votes: 10 45.5%
  • Slow response/no response to Swift Vet Ads

    Votes: 2 9.1%
  • Failure to reign in Tereza's mouth

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • Asking for a UN permission slip to defend America

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • Deciding to run for President

    Votes: 10 45.5%

  • Total voters
    22

Longhorn85

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Now that we all know President Bush will be re-elected, it is time for some reflection and analysis. Was Kerry's biggest mistake:

1) Flip-flopping on the war in Iraq.

2) Flip-flopping on the Patriot Act

3) Promising to raise taxes.

4) Choosing John Edwards as a running mate.

5) Trying to run on his record of Vietnam service.

6) Slow response/no response to Swift Boat ads.

7) Failure to reign in his obnoxious wife.

8) Asking the UN for a permission slip.

9) Deciding to run for President.
 
I think he fucked up by making such a big deal about his military record and denouncing Bush's.

Ultimately it is the issues that should be important. Even with his flip-flopping he could have stuck to the issues and had a decent chance.
 
Don't you ever post anything except political threads? How terribly one-dimensional your life must be with nothing else to chat on the INTERNET about.

But to answer your question, we can debate his campaign effectiveness after Nov 2.

Or we can talk about Bush's failures. Which are countless. His administration hasn't done anything positive all four years.
 
longhorn.. I just noticed something. You so Republican that you even have white kids. No joke bro. That looks like a Caucasian girl in that avatar.

I can see the whole scenario now...

Little Girl - "Mommy, help!!! A Republican is after me!!"
Mom - "Don't worry honey, the pool shark will get him".


:)

hee hee
 
AAP said:
longhorn.. I just noticed something. You so Republican that you even have white kids. No joke bro. That looks like a Caucasian girl in that avatar.

I can see the whole scenario now...

Little Girl - "Mommy, help!!! A Republican is after me!!"
Mom - "Don't worry honey, the pool shark will get him".


:)

hee hee


Real classy loser.

Why bring his kids into the discussion. Jackass

And now hes not black enough for you white boy
 
His actual mistake was imagining he could run a Presidential campaign just like he ran all his past senate ones.

Specifically the "Im a war hero and you're not" approach. He even manufactures pseudo attacks against him just to mention once more how great a war hero he apparently was. His entire political career was built off of that three month tour.

Its the same mistake the democrats made in imagining they could force feed a NE liberal with zero charisma and a nauseatingly elitist demeanor down the throats of Americans because he fought briefly in Vietnam
 
JerseyArt said:
Real classy loser.

Why bring his kids into the discussion. Jackass

And now hes not black enough for you white boy


Because LOSER, in an avatar, anything goes.

Besides are you certain they are HIS kids?

Unless you are longhorn, you need to keep your mouth shut and let him respond. He out of all people wouldn't have perceived that the wrong way as it was in jest. Since you are not longhorn you can continue to mind your own fucking business cupcake.
 
I don't think he made mistakes by himself. Biggest mistake was to put him there and think he had a chance. Then having Edwards, a former ambulance chaser didnt help at all. Then he lacks charisma (Bush doesnt really have a lot more), made some flip-flops, brought the war record thing on the table (which makes this the gayest campaign ever)...
 
AAP said:
Because LOSER, in an avatar, anything goes.

Besides are you certain they are HIS kids?

Unless you are longhorn, you need to keep your mouth shut and let him respond. He out of all people wouldn't have perceived that the wrong way as it was in jest. Since you are not longhorn you can continue to mind your own fucking business cupcake.


LOL

Its amazing how morons invent pseudo rules to justify their ignorance.

No, anything doesnt go in an avatar. If a memebr wants to post a pic of his child that does not give license for every moron with poor taste and a weak intellect to denigrate the child.


And its irrelevant whether or not they are his kids. Your comments assumed them to be. That would just be additionally stupid on your part if they turned out not to be. The uncertainty is also not license to drag in someones children simply because you disagree with them politically.

Fimally I can respond to whatever I wish. What is a rule moron is that you made your comments on a public bulletin board, not addressed privately to longhorn. When you did such they became fodder for anyone who wished to comment on what you said.

With your piss poor reasoning skills its no wonder you're a liberal.

Oh, and I wont even address the gay guy calling me a cupcake obvious rejoinder :rolleyes:

Stop hitting on me
 
JerseyArt said:
LOL

Its amazing how morons invent pseudo rules to justify their ignorance.

No, anything doesnt go in an avatar. If a memebr wants to post a pic of his child that does not give license for every moron with poor taste and a weak intellect to denigrate the child.


And its irrelevant whether or not they are his kids. Your comments assumed them to be. That would just be additionally stupid on your part if they turned out not to be. The uncertainty is also not license to drag in someones children simply because you disagree with them politically.

Fimally I can respond to whatever I wish. What is a rule moron is that you made your comments on a public bulletin board, not addressed privately to longhorn. When you did such they became fodder for anyone who wished to comment on what you said.

With your piss poor reasoning skills its no wonder you're a liberal.

Oh, and I wont even address the gay guy calling me a cupcake obvious rejoinder :rolleyes:

Stop hitting on me


So for some reason you think you are longhorn's spokeperson?

#1 You may want to clear that with him. Last time I checked, he didn't exactly need a cupcake like you to voice his opinion. Nice of you volunteer though, even if you haven't a clue.

#2 With all the jests he and I have made to each other in the past concering the majority of Democrats being black men, he would not have taken my post the wrong way.

#3 Assuming I am a liberal was your mistake. I never claimed to be. You can label anyone anyway you wish to to help your own insecurities, but it doesn't stick.

#4 As far as weak intellect goes, you should read your post again. Spell Check is an asset you know.

#5 In a post directed to another member, if your name isn't in it, you may want to "sit that one out" so you don't look like the tool you are again.

**pats head** "Now run along and play nicely."
 
rofl:





bush_20041.jpg
 
A spokesperson isn't required to address the idiocy of your previous comments. Frankly pointing out the obvious doesnt require much time at all.

And once again since apparently it is necessary to repeatedly point out the obvious. Your comments were made on a public board. There is no presumption of privacy, and anything you say can be addressed by anyone.

The offensiveness of your uncle tom implication warranted comment and criticism.

If there is some private understanding between the two of you that somehow "justifies" the stupidity of your comments to each other, then you should have discussed it privately. Once made in public they became publically offensive.

The position of little bitch white liberal questioning the "blackness" of miniority republicans has already been filled ad nauseum. Maybe you should find a new shtick
 
You are a whiny little bitch tonight.

Funny, longhorn didn't see it that way.

So my advice to you - once again - is shut the fuck up and mind your own business. Your "assuming" certainly made an ass out of you tonight.
 
Longhorn85 said:
Dude, that says it all. A picture is indeed worth a thousand words.


Man, don't even make me go and find that picture of Bush falling off the Segway and bicycle. Segways are suppose to be untoppable. Go figure.
 
AAP said:
You are a whiny little bitch tonight.

Ordinarily I would defer to your expertise, but I fear you may have an agenda and are therefore impartial

So my advice to you - once again - is shut the fuck up and mind your own business.

Uh...hmmmm....no

Your "assuming" certainly made an ass out of you tonight.


More uninvited solicitations :rolleyes:
 
What part of Mind-Your-Own-Business do you not understand?

What? Sorry, couldn't hear you. You got too much foot in your mouth right now.

Continue to whine on. This is the most amusement I have ever seen out of you.
 
LMAO

Liberalism really is a mental disorder and not a political philosophy
 
AAP said:
What part of Mind-Your-Own-Business do you not understand?

What? Sorry, couldn't hear you. You got too much foot in your mouth right now.

Continue to whine on. This is the most amusement I have ever seen out of you.


I'll check back with you after my movie... see if you are still assuming you know anything. Or rather still assuming that I care of your opinion.
 
ChewYxRage said:

The contrast in this pic is also why I think Bush will win all the debates. Regular guy vs Dork. All he has to do is avoid the major gaffes and allow Kerry to look like himself.

Just like he did with Gore.
 
Man, bush has never met a gaffe he couldn't avoid.

On a side note, I drove by the beach today and the SWAT team is already training on the beach in preparation for his and Kerrys upcoming debate.

I guess they want to be in tip top shape for any pretzel wielding terrorists they encounter next week.
 
Longhorn85 said:
Dude, that says it all. A picture is indeed worth a thousand words.

F@*king CLASSIC Longhorn!! LMAO! That is expression i expect to see on Kerrys face on election night!!
What a dweeb!
 
JerseyArt said:
His actual mistake was imagining he could run a Presidential campaign just like he ran all his past senate ones.

Specifically the "Im a war hero and you're not" approach. He even manufactures pseudo attacks against him just to mention once more how great a war hero he apparently was. His entire political career was built off of that three month tour.

Its the same mistake the democrats made in imagining they could force feed a NE liberal with zero charisma and a nauseatingly elitist demeanor down the throats of Americans because he fought briefly in Vietnam
those in the know,know he didn't even fight
he was the coward
 
there is a site I can't find now
something along the lines of "sportsfansforthetruth"
among the Kerry gaffes
I like Manny Ortiz..this from a guy from Boston
Lambert Field
also mixed up Ohio State and Michigan somehow
typical Kerry,pretending to be buddy-buddy and in the know with everyone
what a schmuck
 
Sorry ... a little late reading this post. Looks like you got your ass handed to you AAP! Way to go Jerseyart! (Actually both sides were entertaining!)

Longhorn...my apologies for not voting. In my opinion Kerry has made so many mistakes that I can't label one more tragic than the other!
 
help4john said:
Sorry ... a little late reading this post. Looks like you got your ass handed to you AAP! Way to go Jerseyart! (Actually both sides were entertaining!)


Nope. Sure didn't.

Actually jerseyfart looked like a whiny fool running on here and making an ass out of herself over something that was a joke between two other people.

But if you want to try, step up. I'll be here half an hour more.
 
AAP said:
Nope. Sure didn't.

Actually jerseyfart looked like a whiny fool running on here and making an ass out of herself over something that was a joke between two other people.

But if you want to try, step up. I'll be here half an hour more.
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No energy left....past my bedtime! Had to stay awake to watch O'Reilly....he's a real American Hero! He showed past footage of Kerry (pre-Iraq) "dittoing (thanks Rush) the Great George W's war philosophy. Boy has he done a flip-flop.

But don't worry AAP....."help is on the way!!!!!" :chomp:
 
What can you expect? Kerry was duped by bushies lies. Just like the rest of us.
 
He's going to raise taxes, for the rich. The middle class which is me is paying 40% compared to when clinton was in office 35%. Bush fucked up enough already.
 
AAP said:
What can you expect?
<<<<<<
I expect Kerry to board that plane and take the vacant seat next to Cat Stevens! Still can't get that song out of my head...."leaving on a jet plane, don't know when I'll be back again." Is it contageous?

Gotta sleep, man. Enjoy!
 
sorry to tell you this guys but the election isn't until november
kerry hasn't lost anything yet, bush hasn't won anything yet, polls sway more than Bush's fat head
 
I chose choosing to run for president and the failure to act on the swift boat dudes.

Out of curiousity, when did Kerry say we needed permission from the UN to defend America? And if the war in Iraq is considered defending America then holy shit people have problems that a simple thread like this cannot even hope to address.
 
The Nature Boy said:
And if the war in Iraq is considered defending America then holy shit people have problems that a simple thread like this cannot even hope to address.


Bro, didn't you know? They have WMD's!!!!! And they are going to use them!!!! On us!!!!!!
 
AAP said:
Bro, didn't you know? They have WMD's!!!!! And they are going to use them!!!! On us!!!!!!


And now it's, "hey, we invaded iraq because we just KNEW the terrists would come in and fight us there instead of trying to bomb amercia". That one really makes me laugh. They just knew it was going to happen, when they couldn't predict anything correctly when it came to Iraq in the past.

GOOD one.
 
Perhaps if we had applied The Patriot Act to Iraq, it would be terrists free. Cuz it sure ain't caught one damn terrorist over here yet.
 
The Nature Boy said:
Out of curiousity, when did Kerry say we needed permission from the UN to defend America?

= extremely effective conservative rhetoric based on Kerry's insistence that Bush was wrong to act unilateraly.
 
thinking that he could persuade the stupid american population, fighting the well oiled republican machine.

goddamn I hate this neoconservatism
 
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