Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below If a cop pulls you over and asks if you have been drinking, your answer should be NO! Never, ever , say you have had a couple or even just one! This is just like asking to be put through a sobriety test. This is the mistake most people make and can easily be avoided. I know plenty ot people who have been pulled over and are definately cocked, but just answer NO! and they go on their happy way. This is just a friendly reminder and may save you alot of trouble! Best wishes and drive safe.........................galaxy
What to say if you get pulled over and have been drinking?
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I got pulled over on the Garden State Parkway in NJ once a few years ago on my way to the shore. State Troopers noticed that I had a case of Heineken in the back-seat after checking my credentials and asked me if I had been drinking. I told them "no" but had very strong intentions of downing a couple of those green beauties once they were finished with me. <That didn't go over well>
After the brief conversation, I overheard the officer on my passenger side say to his partner..."Hey, he has Heiny's".
They then proceeded to take the case of beer from me and said that it was better off in the garbage and I would spare myself from an accident or worse. I agreed and drove off considering I just got out of a nice ticket.
After the weekend was over, I called my cousin who is a Trooper and told him what had happened. His response was:
"Those were your beers we drank?"
Bastards....
After the brief conversation, I overheard the officer on my passenger side say to his partner..."Hey, he has Heiny's".
They then proceeded to take the case of beer from me and said that it was better off in the garbage and I would spare myself from an accident or worse. I agreed and drove off considering I just got out of a nice ticket.
After the weekend was over, I called my cousin who is a Trooper and told him what had happened. His response was:
"Those were your beers we drank?"
Bastards....
pitbullstl
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galaxy said:
Vodka is not odorless...............at all.................drink enough...and ya stink......................
On another note, Zima is a malt liquor, and if you've been drinking Zima it's more than noticeable........the skanks I used to bang in college would reek of it when they were sneaking into my apartment......
I always tell them "MY TAXES PAY YOUR SALARY".
I`ve been in jail alot.
I`ve been in jail alot.
sconoscuito
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galaxy said:
I dont know but I fucked stink from vodka sooo bad....
I got pulled over drunk a few times but never got a dui, I've had friends get pulled over drunk and they didnt get a dui
I even got pulled over drunk with case of beer which they made me throw away cause I was under 21 and then let me drive home without my license cause they thought I was comeplty sober and beer wasnt ours or something...
this all happened during highschool years...
I was driving in the middle of the road with my friends shitfaced and passed a cop and he didnt notice me or something.
basically im fuckin stupid so thats why i dont drink and drive anymore
oh and by the way, I'm a really good drunk driver and i can always act sober when needed, my mom still thinks I never drank during my highschool years and thats how damn good i am.
FistingIvan
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Generally, everyone drives better when they are drunk ! Everyone believes they are far better drivers than average.
02gixxersix
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There's no way you're getting out of a DWI if the cop wants to fuck you. I got lucky one night because I think it was just about shift change. At least that was what i was told by my friend who is a trooper the next day. Driving drunk is stupid and you're eventually gonna either kill yourself, someone else, or get arrested. Any way you look at it it takes a lot less money to call a cab or have someone come pick you up, which most people are willing to do.
Well...just make sure you don't offer the cop a beer...or better yet...finish it before he gets to the window.
Have your friends get out of the boat that you are pulling...and maybe even put the boat on a trailer too...
Also...make sure that the guy skiing behind the boat...holds on tightly.
Just a thought...
B True
Have your friends get out of the boat that you are pulling...and maybe even put the boat on a trailer too...
Also...make sure that the guy skiing behind the boat...holds on tightly.
Just a thought...
B True
someone told me once that if you are drunk and get pulled over to wait until the cop gets pulled up behind you and then get out of your car and where he can clearly see you... open a fresh beer and guzzle it right in front of him (so that its all on the video recording from his car) then there is no proof that you were driving while intoxicated since they just saw you get out pop a beer and guzzle it down.. you could dispute it and a breathalizer.
dunno though... i dont' drink anymore so i'm not really worried about if it would work or not, but you'd have to be pretty ballsy i'd say to do something like that
dunno though... i dont' drink anymore so i'm not really worried about if it would work or not, but you'd have to be pretty ballsy i'd say to do something like that
KILLER2001
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This is one, a guy gets pulled over wrecked, and turns the car off as he rolls up the winows. Witj the cops watchig slams a pint of vodka. Well as it turns out thhe cops couldnt prove he was dring intoxicated, all they could prove was he was intoxicated after the stop.
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DrDillio
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Cops aren't dumb they know if you have been drinking but at the same time yo udont want to tell them you did like 10 shots or something like that.
First of all if you are drinking to the point where you would be worried about a dui then you are a jackass - no offense but people die that way - there isn't any proof that this happens but I did read an article about how one person dies from drunk driving every like 20 seconds or something like that -- and a bit statisitc that said drunk driving is a big time killer
Basically just don't drink and drive then you dont have to worry about what your drunk worthless ass should say
First of all if you are drinking to the point where you would be worried about a dui then you are a jackass - no offense but people die that way - there isn't any proof that this happens but I did read an article about how one person dies from drunk driving every like 20 seconds or something like that -- and a bit statisitc that said drunk driving is a big time killer
Basically just don't drink and drive then you dont have to worry about what your drunk worthless ass should say
To all you fucks that are proud to have gotten away with drunk driving: It is because of people like you that a good friend of mine is in rehabilitation, because she was in a coma for about 8 months. She was hit from behind by some bitch who decided to go out driving after she got hammered. As I'm sure you dicks don't care ... I hope maybe you won't do it anymore.
From Zero said:
Um, we didn't do that to her, though most of us are decent people who aer sad to see an innocent person get hurt.
All gun owners are not murderers, though you evidently think they are.
You always say NO to the cop because you have to set up your legal defense.
A defense is going to be chronological:
Contest the stop
Contest the tests / SFST
Contest the arrest
Contest the breath test
If you tell them you were not drinking, and don't take any SFST (roadside) tests, and refuse the breath test, it's going to be pretty hard to get convicted of DUI.
if you have had more than one drink refuse everything.
MattTheSkywalker said:
I understand that bor, but that's a bad analogy. Murder must have a motive, not just a firearm. Drunk driving only needs intoxication and someone behind the wheel. Anyway, I'm not blaming anyone. I'm merely trying to stop anyone who wants to make the decision to drink and drive again.
i thought if u refuse a breath test then you are assumed guilty and taken in for a test. anyway, the breathalizer given on the street is inadmissable in court and thats why if you fail that one you have to take another one at the station. the officer has to wait 20 minutes before he can give u the breathalizer on the street. this is to let any alcohol clear your breath. so if u get pulled over and they give u the breathalizer 10 minutes later take it bc when it goes to court youll win bc the cop didnt follow proper procedure.
IJ26 said:
The roadside breath test is designed to provide grounds for the arrest. It is admissible for that reason, not as evidence of intoxication. Back at the station, there is a 20 minute waiting period, because the breath test machine can be wrong if there s alcohol in your mouth. It can be wrong for 1000 other reasons too, but that's another thread.
As to the waiting period, a police report usually says
did you wait 20 mnutes Y/N
What do you think the cop is going to circle? Very few states require that it be videotaped - some of the more complex reports actually will make the cop write the time in before and after the waiting period. It's a formality if they do it at all.
"Assumed guilty"? Maybe in Iran. States will suspend your license because of refusing, but that is a far cry from conviction.
Just say NO...to every question they ask you.
been drinking? NO
Submit to SFST? NO
Submit to breeath test NO
Submiot to breath test back at the station? NO
Take the suspension. Avoid the conviction.
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Code
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Just don't be a total fucking idiot.
Which means don't drink ANY AMOUNT and drive.
Fucking slack-jawed rejects.
Which means don't drink ANY AMOUNT and drive.
Fucking slack-jawed rejects.
javaguru
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You assholes who speed deserve to rot in hell too since speeding is a factor in almost as many traffic fatalities as alcohol(30% Vs. 40%). I almost forgot, all you dimwitted fools who drive distracted need to be thrown in prison for causing between 25%-45% of ALL accidents. Just keeping it real. 
deteras1 said:
Alcohol itself is odorless. It's the additives in the drinks that you smell. You could drink non-alcoholic beer and still smell like you've been drinking.
Every "routine" traffic stop is a full-blown criminal investigation. The police officer actually begins a "pre test" when he first walks up to a citizen's vehicle. This is called a Diverted Attention Task test. He asks the citizen to do two or more things at once, looking for any sign of imperfection. An example is ordering a driver to retrieve his license and answer numerous questions at the same time. If the citizen stops looking for his license in order to answer the question, or if he cannot find his license quickly, he automatically fails the test. (In the car selling business, 90% of my customers had difficulty finding their license for me to make a photocopy of it.) The government's National Highway Traffic Safety Administration determined that 26% of citizens fail this test at 0.00% BAC. Note that this government test of its own test did not take into account the financial greed factor of the cops (or the courts), nor did it take into account any personal prejudices of the officer towards a particular citizen.
While conducting his Diverted Attention Task test, the officer is attempting to smell the citizen's breath, searching for the so-called odor of alcohol. However, ethyl alcohol (ethanol) has zero odor. "Near beer" (zero percent alcohol) has odor, and alcohol flavorings (zero percent alcohol) also have odor. Syrupy flavorings, such as found in liqueurs, stick to the mouth and remain long after the alcohol is gone, giving a characteristic odor. Pure Grain Alcohol, such as Everclear, has no odor, despite being almost 200 proof (virtually 100% pure alcohol). Beer, despite being the weakest of alcoholic beverages, has the strongest odor from its flavorings.
Breath sprays, such as Binaca, have a high concentration of alcohol in them. Binaca can even cause a false breath-alcohol test result of 0.811% BAC, which is nearly double a fatal dose of alcohol poisoning. Incidentally, Listerine mouthwash can cause a false breath-alcohol test result of 0.43% BAC, which is near the level of coma. These effects last as long as 30 minutes to an hour.
Smoking a cigarette at this point is considered by police to be an attempt to cover up the so-called odor of alcohol. It is not considered a sign of nervousness brought on by legal nicotine addiction.
The field sobriety test is a "failure-designed" test, using many unusual acts and skills as its baseline. These unusual skills and acts are virtually impossible to perform without extensive practice, yet citizens are given only one chance to pass. This means that many false positives result merely because it is not a true test. The DWI Law and Science Journal concluded that 46% of test results are false positives. In other words, 46% of sober people are "too drunk to drive." This independent test did not take into account the financial greed factor of the cops (or the courts), nor did it take into account any personal prejudices of the officer towards a particular citizen. A "normal function" field sobriety test still produces a 14% false failure rate, although this test is not used by police. Actually, there is no passing grade for the field sobriety test, and police generally do not use any sort of preprinted grading form, nor do police follow any standardized series of specific tests. (This tends to result in "xeroxed" generic allegations of failed performance, which read identically for thousands of arrestees.)
http://www.geocities.com/prohibition_us/BacFst.html
Gone thru several checkpoints where i haven't been drinking at all. They get literally 5 inches from your face and ask for your lic/reg. hoping to smell a stench of alcohol... Only when they smell it, then they ask you have you been drinking tonite...
Last year in NYC, friends and i were stopped at a checkpoint around Sept. All of us were plastered and when we pulled up to the cop, he flatly said "whoa, someones been drinking tonite " as the window was rolled down...Luckily my friend (driver) didn't have a lick of alcohol in her, but knew it was the 3 of us in the car besides her..
Last year in NYC, friends and i were stopped at a checkpoint around Sept. All of us were plastered and when we pulled up to the cop, he flatly said "whoa, someones been drinking tonite " as the window was rolled down...Luckily my friend (driver) didn't have a lick of alcohol in her, but knew it was the 3 of us in the car besides her..
sconoscuito
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yea drunk driving is stupid, i did that shit in hs every once in a while but finally realised the risk you take just isnt worth it...
I know a guy who crashed his dad 03 bmw in the wall just cause he was shitfaced, he got at least 3 mips, got kicked outta school for drinking... so there is those type of people who are just stupid when they are drunk and cant control themselfs so they end up doing dumb things... im glad i finally realised that and just stopped driving if I knew I was gonna drink..
I know a guy who crashed his dad 03 bmw in the wall just cause he was shitfaced, he got at least 3 mips, got kicked outta school for drinking... so there is those type of people who are just stupid when they are drunk and cant control themselfs so they end up doing dumb things... im glad i finally realised that and just stopped driving if I knew I was gonna drink..
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DrDillio
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From Zero said:
Yeah if you do this to someone you should burn in hell. I lost a good friend to drunk driving and another friend is really disfigured because her face hit the steering wheel - even with a seatbelt - and it tore off her upper lip and smashed her nose.
I bet the drunk driver who did that and got away with it feels really damn good and proud.
Drunk drivers make me sick
DrDillio said:
Speeders cause just as many accidents. Keeping it real.
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Code
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MattTheSkywalker said:
My wife died from a drunk driver.
That's pretty real to me.
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DrDillio
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MattTheSkywalker said:
There is no reason at all to get behind a wheel of a car and expose others to your negligence. people get behind the car to go places and see people and do stuff. they do not get behind the wheel of a car to get hit by some dumbass who drank too much and was too cheap to take a cab or too annoying to have any friends to take him/her home.
My friends were hurt not by speeders but once buy someone driving in their lane and another time by someone going through a red light and hitting them in the side. Drunkeness and idiocy were the cause of their injuries and deaths, not speed.
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DrDillio
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MattTheSkywalker said:
The road to hell is paved with good intentions and people that didn't mean to do something. it doesnt take any of the responsibility for their actions away. people that get away with drunk driving only give others the reason to go out and do it
DrDillio said:
No reason to speed sir, but people do it anyway....No reason to be distratcedon the road, but people do it anyway.
More people die from non-alcohol related crashes than alcohol related.
New England Jounral of Medicine says talking on the cell phone is the same level of delayed reaction as .10 BAC. Credible source?
From 1976-1978 (before the femi-nazis at MADD got fired up), the percentage of fatalities cause by DUI was LOWER than it is now. it is HIGHER today by percentage.
Most DUI drivers cause no harm to anyone. 18K fatalities every year are alcohol related according to NHTSA. (Alcohol related = BAC.02 or greater according to NHTSA, andf that is not a DUI fatality. They won't publish those numbers because they are so low that they would lose part of theuir funding.)
I don't think DUI is a good idea, but I think we ned to be punioshing people for the harm they do to others, not for "potential".
You're being swayed against logic by your own bad experiences (I am sorry) and by propagnda from secial interets like MADD.
Code said:
I'm sorry for your loss.
With all this draconian enforcement, he was still out there. This problem cannot be solved - it;s like drugs or pvoerty...itwill alwys be with us. Always.
A better goal is to punish the people that actually hurt others.
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Code
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Agreed, punishing for actions not potential actions.
I surely would have killed everyone in the other car had I been on site.
And didn't hunt them all down simply because I had a daughter to raise.
The justice system for manslaughter is fucking joke.
I surely would have killed everyone in the other car had I been on site.
And didn't hunt them all down simply because I had a daughter to raise.
The justice system for manslaughter is fucking joke.
MattTheSkywalker said:
sconoscuito
Banned
well in that fuckin case half of the people in america shouldnt even get DLs cause they cant fuckin drive, and really all it takes to get drivers licenses in 30 minutes
go to europe and try to get license and see how long it takes...
It took me 15 min to get the written part done and 15 min to get the driving part done.. does that really mean Im good to go? Im a good driver but my fuckin 60 year old mom got the the damn license whithout any help and she hardly speaks english.. and has never drivinen a car before she came to us...
than imagine a person who cant even drive sober gets behind the wheel drunk
go to europe and try to get license and see how long it takes...
It took me 15 min to get the written part done and 15 min to get the driving part done.. does that really mean Im good to go? Im a good driver but my fuckin 60 year old mom got the the damn license whithout any help and she hardly speaks english.. and has never drivinen a car before she came to us...
than imagine a person who cant even drive sober gets behind the wheel drunk
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DrDillio
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MattTheSkywalker said:
Your own evidence does not address the question or the fact that driving while drinking is just flat out stupid. Sure cell phone users can kills people just the same because of reaction time but that doesn't make it ok for drunk drivers to do the same.
Propaganda doesnt change the facts that your reaction time is lower when you drink and drive. It doesnt change the fact that people die in accidents.
All your points are pretty much worthess because it doesnt change the fact that people are still dying because others are making stupid decisions
DrDillio said:
You seem to have missed Matt's point entirely. What's the difference between driving drunk and driving while talking on the cellphone or driving while old? The difference is there's no group like MADD campaigning against them, which makes them a less visible target for anger.
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DrDillio said:
You are too biased by your own negative experiences to discuss this rationally.
Almost all car accident fatalities are the result of stupidity: speeding, drinking, cell phone, inattention, whatever. DUI fatalities are not even a majority of auto related deaths.
DUI has a massive special interest lobbying campaign attached to it, that's all...and it is designed to make people stop thinking and start condemning. It's been quite a success on you.
Less than .001% of DUI drivers that are caught (and only a tiny minority are caught) actually cause a fatalitiy.
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DrDillio
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MattTheSkywalker said:
Ok. Now you listen and I will try to use small words and thoughts for you to understand.
If there are 100 accidents in a day. and 10 are cause by drunk driving and one person out of those 10 was killed, all that you have said does not change the fact that there were 10 more accidents and one more death.
Have you heard of the story of that girl from Venezwelia who got burned alive in her car because some 18 year old kid hit her with a tahoe? She didn't die at all. But her entire life is ruined as she looks like she was burned alive and looks nothing like the cute young girl she was before.
Have you heard of my friend? She did not die. But her face is disfigured.
Statistics can be used to prove anything mr. skywalker. But for all yoru statistics it doesn't change the fact that drunk drivers are dangerous on the road no matter HOW few accidents there are out there.
When you say that more people are killed in regular accidnets than drunk driving, it is like saying that more people are date raped than violently raped. It doesn't make a violent rape any less hurtful than a date rape. Just as it doesn't make an accident or death from a drunk driver any less cupable.
Your logic is flawed mr. skywalker, simply flawed
DrDillio said:
So why the different punishments for a DUI driver and a speeder, if the outcomes can be similar?
Shouldn't we puniush date rapists and violent rapists the same way?
Why not speeders and DUI drivers?
Heahy Minister
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From Zero, Code, and Mr. Dillio I am sorry for your experiences.
I don't think people are trying to condemn drunk driving, but one must say it and tell their personal stories of tragedy to get the message across...even if it may fall on deaf ears. Is there really any fault in doing this?
These threads that educate someone how to get out of a drunk driving situation should simply be replaced with... dont' drink and drive, how about that for an idea? Let people learn for themselves the hard way because if you 'teach' someone how to get out of it, they may think they can ALWAYS get away with drinking and driving and continue to do it.
If you get hammered, call a cab or have someone else drive you home. Drunk driving serves nobody good and yes, one can potentially harm someone as a result. That's a good enough reason for me to continue saying.... don't drink and drive.
(And get an earpiece for your cellphone!)
I don't think people are trying to condemn drunk driving, but one must say it and tell their personal stories of tragedy to get the message across...even if it may fall on deaf ears. Is there really any fault in doing this?
These threads that educate someone how to get out of a drunk driving situation should simply be replaced with... dont' drink and drive, how about that for an idea? Let people learn for themselves the hard way because if you 'teach' someone how to get out of it, they may think they can ALWAYS get away with drinking and driving and continue to do it.
If you get hammered, call a cab or have someone else drive you home. Drunk driving serves nobody good and yes, one can potentially harm someone as a result. That's a good enough reason for me to continue saying.... don't drink and drive.
(And get an earpiece for your cellphone!)
pitbullstl
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MattTheSkywalker said:
And with that we will consider the argument closed.......
I am in total agreement, the penalties should be the same.......either more or less, depending on which side of the fence you sit........
Fact remains..............
DRINKING AND DRIVING = BAD FUCKING IDEA..........statisitics schmatistics....... this thread was started by someone wondering what to do if they get pulled over for drinking and driving.....................the reponses he got did not need rebuttle from the statistical guru's.............bottom line DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE....
Hey Mister said:
Drinking and driving stupid.
Getting caught makes it worse.
If you get caught, you;ve got to defend yourself ASAP by summarily refusing all the tests.
Both pale in comparison to the naive, stupid idea that this problem can EVER be solved. The % of DUI fatalities is higher the last 3 years than the 3 years before MADD arose. MADD is doing nothing to stem the tide of DUI fatalities, instead serving only to stick people with criminal records for doing no harm to others.
Accept that, and harshly punish the people who cause harm to others, or, be consistent and make your third speeding ticket a felony punishable by 5 years in jail, whether you harm anyone or not.
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Hey Mister said:
Oddly enough, the study Matt is refering to included earpiece and other hand-free forms of cell phones.
Heahy Minister
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MattTheSkywalker said:
Of course drinking and driving is stupid. That's the bottom line! We're not talking about cellphones and driving, eating and driving, etc... we're talking drinking and driving, and fact is, drinking and driving is STUPID! End of story.
If you get caught drinking and driving, you should pay the price. I'm all for that! And I NEVER argued against having the same penalties for speeding as well. In fact, I'm ALL for that. Speeders kill just as many, if not more, then drunk drivers.
Of course this problem will never be solved, but then again, will any problem? Will poverty? Will crime? Will racism? Will anything?? No.
I don't know enough about MADD to argue for or against them. All I know is, drinking and driving is a bad mix.... and no, that isn't because MADD brainwashed me with their propaganda.
Heahy Minister
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Code said:
Really? Hmmm????
I would like to see this study. If that's the case I don't see how wearing an earpiece is any different from having a passenger in the vehicle talking to you.
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DrDillio
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Sometimes I dont get the way people think. Why on earth would you want to drink and then get behind the wheel of a moving weapon?
Saying speeding and dui should have the same penalties is just plain idiot. Speeding by itself is not reckless, however, speeding in dangerous conditions is. Drunk driving in any condition is reckless, hence the higher penalty.
Date rape and violent rape, if convicted are judged on the same sentencing scheme. The problem is many people are not convicted of rape and that just kind of sucks.
I pray that you never get into an accident and hurt someone mr skywalker or the other people that feel that dui is ok to get away with. as far as I'm concerned you have a reckless abandon for human life everytime you get behind the wheel for the simple reason you are drinking and driving at the same time
Saying speeding and dui should have the same penalties is just plain idiot. Speeding by itself is not reckless, however, speeding in dangerous conditions is. Drunk driving in any condition is reckless, hence the higher penalty.
Date rape and violent rape, if convicted are judged on the same sentencing scheme. The problem is many people are not convicted of rape and that just kind of sucks.
I pray that you never get into an accident and hurt someone mr skywalker or the other people that feel that dui is ok to get away with. as far as I'm concerned you have a reckless abandon for human life everytime you get behind the wheel for the simple reason you are drinking and driving at the same time
DrDillio said:
Listen to yourself: it is not reckless to speed if no one else is around, but it is reckless to be driving drunk? LOL!!
NHTSA has 30 years of statstical data that says you're wrong. That's not just "using statstics to say anything I want", that's 30 years of hardcore evidence gathering.
In favor of your emotions, you ignore this. I execpt this fmsoccer moms, although you could be one. I guess we'll just agree to disagree.
But something to ask youself:
If DUI is soooo dangerous, why do the overwhelming majority of those who do it not cause an accident, much less a fatality?
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DrDillio
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MattTheSkywalker said:
You can try to fool some people most of the time and you can try to fool most people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time Matt.
I'm sorry. But your defense of drunk driving by trying to point out attention to other forms of traffic deaths is nothing more than a smokescreen for the truth that drunk driving is still bad.
You and your smokescreen. I feel sorry for you. It is inexcusable.
DrDillio said:
I acknowledge the supidity of it like 4 times....re-read my posts. It's totally stupid.
So is the way the justice system handles it...makes the problem worse.
Until that chages I will be happy to give people advice on DUI defense and avoidance.
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punchbagforyou
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Heahy Minister
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DrDillio said:
I disagree with this point.
Speeding IS a reckless act in and of itself because you are driving OVER the prescribed limit which is deemed safe. If the speed limit is 100 km/h and one is driving at 150 km/h, that is reckless. You may be in COMPLETE control of the vehicle, but by driving way over the speed limit which everyone else is doing that is RECKLESS. Speeders cause many accidents as well.
You contradict yourself here my man. If you treat drunk drivers one way, you must treat speeders the same way. Both are reckless.
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DrDillio
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MattTheSkywalker said:
don't drink and drive. best avoidance there is.
No joke.
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DrDillio
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Hey Mister said:
Speed limits vary from state to state. DUI is illegal in every state.
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Code
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Dial_tone said:
Nope all parts of Wyoming it's illegal.
I have a cabin in Pinehaven and drive through almost the whole damn state to get there every summer.
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DrDillio
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Dial_tone said:
Speed limits vary from state to state. From 55 to 75. Even in urban areas. Speeding is not illegal. It is a violation of a traffic code and ordinance. Whereas dui is illegal and a violation of a traffic code and ordinance as well.
They are two entirely different things in my book and this is the book of a guy who has to deal with poker faces all day long
Heahy Minister
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DrDillio said:
Speeding has limits just like the amount of alcohol one is allowed. Limits I'm sure vary from state to state.
So are you telling me one who drives 90 mph in a 60 mph zone is not being reckless?
The take home point here is speeding is reckless just like drinking and driving. The more over the speed limit you go the more reckless, just like the more you drink the more potential for reckless driving increases.
You do realize one reason why drunk drivers get into accidents is because they speed.
Heahy Minister
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Dial_tone said:
Exactly! You broke the law speeding. Same difference!
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anabolicmd
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Nav, sorry to bust your bubble, but 92% of accidents arent just speeding related either. Most of them are exactly that - accidents. When you drive drunk and get into an accident, its not an accident.
02gixxersix
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IJ26 said:
First of all breathalyzer tests are admissable in court. The reason they take your BAC again at the station is to allow time for the last drink you had to get into your system. I wonder if that drinking a pint of odka thing would work though.
javaguru
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So your asserting that people with a high BAC INTENDED to cause harm when they got behind the wheel? Sorry, but I'm sure nearly 100% of those arrested for DUI related accidents never intended to cause harm to anyone. Nobody is excusing drunk driving just pointing out that a strong special interest lobby is responsible for most opinions on the subject. If you accept DUI's should be punished with X penalty because of the harm to society then you must accept speeding should be punished with a similar penalty based on its harm to society. Lose the holier than thou attitude.
sconoscuito
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thats why I say its too easy to get the damn license over here in US.. half hour is what it takes.
in europe you actually need to kno how to drive and lots others if you're trying to get behind the wheel
in europe you actually need to kno how to drive and lots others if you're trying to get behind the wheel
chewyxrage
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Try getting out of the car with a bottle in your hand and the cop will pull out and his glock and aim it at your head while screaming at you.
Would you raise the bottle to your lips and start chugging?
Would you raise the bottle to your lips and start chugging?
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DrDillio
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I think the entire point of this post is missed.
I have been pulled over for speeding before and was issued a warning. I have never been pulled over for a dui before -- but i am guessing if I told the cop I was dui'ing - like i was telling the cop I was speeding - he would probably say 'boy you are in for a world of hurt' - but not a real world of hurt, just that I would be busted for dui.
I think your stats are wrong.
Semantics... that is a nice way of saying that you have no other thing to say. The fact is, if you are speeding and you get caught speeding 3x you probably won't get a felony conviction. If you get caught dui'ing you could get a felony conviction and spend time in jail.
Simple as that.
I have been pulled over for speeding before and was issued a warning. I have never been pulled over for a dui before -- but i am guessing if I told the cop I was dui'ing - like i was telling the cop I was speeding - he would probably say 'boy you are in for a world of hurt' - but not a real world of hurt, just that I would be busted for dui.
I think your stats are wrong.
Semantics... that is a nice way of saying that you have no other thing to say. The fact is, if you are speeding and you get caught speeding 3x you probably won't get a felony conviction. If you get caught dui'ing you could get a felony conviction and spend time in jail.
Simple as that.
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Ticket for what? Legally transporting beer?
You have to get a receipt for anything they take and then immediately file a notice of claim for future compensation. In NYC anyway.
You have to get a receipt for anything they take and then immediately file a notice of claim for future compensation. In NYC anyway.
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More then once in the NYPD I would see someone driving like a total idiot. Making U turns, stopping and jack rabbiting the car. It was obvious. The cherry tops would go on and I would talk to them. Of course 9 times out of 10 they were obliterated. For me to notice them acting like a dope on the road they had to be.
I used break their balls for about 10 min. Make them think they were getting arrested. I would ask them if they had another set of keys at home. I park their cars, throw their keys in the trunk, and lock it. If needed give them a lift to a train and get them in free.
Women were the worst! They would yell at me and curse that I locked their keys in the trunk.
I used break their balls for about 10 min. Make them think they were getting arrested. I would ask them if they had another set of keys at home. I park their cars, throw their keys in the trunk, and lock it. If needed give them a lift to a train and get them in free.
Women were the worst! They would yell at me and curse that I locked their keys in the trunk.
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