my stats are 5'9 165 and im 27. I've always had a good clean diet and i've been lifting 3 times a week for the past 4 years and I started out at 130 so completely natural ive went up 35 pounds but I was a small guy so that wasnt that hard to do I guess. And my goal is to be around 180 if at all possible, thats the only reason I was considering going down this route is because Id like to achieve my goal before im 40 and thought a good couple of cycles would give me a head start and improve my strength along the way. I know on cycles of dbol most of the weight gained is water weight and then once you get off of it you lose half of what you gained but if I can just come away with 5 to 10 pounds thatd help me alot to increase my food intake to sustain the added weight and push me closer to my goal. And I know its newbish and alot worse for your liver but Id like to keep it oral if at all possible, I have NEVER been a fan of needles and the thought of injecting myself creeps meo out. But if there is no other way, I guess ill have to suck it up and do it.