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WHAT?!? small guy lifts more than bigger guys?!
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There are lots of guys who are bigger than I am. They have higher squats, deads, and benches than I do..but they can't beat me on a single event.
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Haz
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There are alot of factors involved in determining a person's strength. Its not just the guy with the biggest muscles. Some people's muscle simply can produce more force, pound for pound (probably has to do with types of muscle fibers). Also, biomechanics come into play. I used to know a guy, really short with stubby arms, just perfect for bench pressing. At 170 lbs he could bench 350 in highschool. He's probably doing well over 400 pounds now.
Zirakzigil
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and dont forget maybe the big guy was doing a cool down set lol
Burncycle360
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There's this tall guy supposted to be really athletic in my old school, he was strained to do 130 bench when I could easily do 180
and it's a big eye opener when I beat bigger people in arm wreastleing, lol
the big problem is this kid who's also into martial arts, he doesen't look all that built (very cut though) but his muscles, though they aren't huge, are Dense!!! I couldn't even beat him with two hands
and it's a big eye opener when I beat bigger people in arm wreastleing, lol
the big problem is this kid who's also into martial arts, he doesen't look all that built (very cut though) but his muscles, though they aren't huge, are Dense!!! I couldn't even beat him with two hands
brianmincher
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This is often shocking to the bodybuilding community, but what a person looks like doesn't mean shit in an athletic endeavor. I have been beaten in armwrestling by a guy who has never seen the inside of a weight room and never picked up anything heavier than a 12 ouncer in his life. I was much heavier, there was not a single gym lift that I could not beat this guy on by a mile, but he put my arm down. Curtis Loeffler (sp?) competed in WSM a few years ago right after a bodybuilding show. It was the most dramatic WSM I ever saw, because this monster of a man, veiny and thick as all get out was getting his ass handed to him by guys who were smooth and many times much smaller especially in the arms and legs.
Function over form. Sometimes the smaller guy is stronger. Sometimes the fatter guy is faster. This is weird, I agree, but it is just the way it is.
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Function over form. Sometimes the smaller guy is stronger. Sometimes the fatter guy is faster. This is weird, I agree, but it is just the way it is.
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brianmincher: Heck of a post man. It has taken me a while to realize that how I look on contest day will NOT determine how I perform. It has taken me a while to cope with not having a huge chest anymore...but it doesn't matter how strong my chest is when I have to compete in an overhead lift.
It does not matter how my abs look or how shaped anything is...it will only matter how they perform.
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It does not matter how my abs look or how shaped anything is...it will only matter how they perform.
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Lord_Suston
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There are a few answers to this question:
1) some people's CNS (central nervous system) is more effecient in sending messages and crerating electrical impulse to fire muscle fibers. ie.. coordination
2) some people have different muscle insetion points, this creates differnent angles on the levers and might make some more efficient at some excercisse than other people.
3) different types of muscle fibers. different people have a different % of slow: fast: fog twitch muscle fibers. each has its own adaptive characteristic, some are suited for endurance and others are for strength. So someome with mostly fast twitch fibers will be better suited to lift heavier weights for quick burst, but probably couldn't run a mile.
1) some people's CNS (central nervous system) is more effecient in sending messages and crerating electrical impulse to fire muscle fibers. ie.. coordination
2) some people have different muscle insetion points, this creates differnent angles on the levers and might make some more efficient at some excercisse than other people.
3) different types of muscle fibers. different people have a different % of slow: fast: fog twitch muscle fibers. each has its own adaptive characteristic, some are suited for endurance and others are for strength. So someome with mostly fast twitch fibers will be better suited to lift heavier weights for quick burst, but probably couldn't run a mile.
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SSAlexSS
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HulkRow said:
SIZE doesnt mean strength!
compound exercises can give you more strength unlike isolation movements. But strength isnt size!
neurological factors are far more important than muscle size for strength!
That why compound movements are overated... Their good for strenth since you can put in lots of weight, but they arent good for sizee, since people focus too much on strenth and since many muscles are involved, it is hard to concentrate on any of them!
SSAlexSS: WoW...what to say? Is that why we see all of these bodybuilders who look so big, pretty, and can barely curl the 35's? Most bodybuilders I know (the real deal pros) are some seriously strong people!!! They cycle how they train but always push the weights.
Remember...it is Progressive Resistance Training.
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Remember...it is Progressive Resistance Training.
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SSAlexSS
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b fold the truth said:
I agree. But you can progress in number of different ways!
Like add more sets, less rest, more workout days!
Read Arnolds training and do that! Ultimate progressive volume shocker routine!
mattcanning99
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i have atrophied like crazy and am as light as i was last summer, yet i can easily bench press 200 lbs + for reps, something i rarely see other guys much bigger than me do.
i always suspected they were constantly warming up or going super slow or something
i always suspected they were constantly warming up or going super slow or something
I have covered powerlifting for way too long - size does not equal strength! Not saying the guys in your gym are either bbers or plers but I have seen many a HUGE weight lifted by someone that didn't look like they could. One guy comes to mind that hardly looked like he worked out but squatted 750 at only 165 bodyweight.
Yeah, I wouldnt squat, bench, deadlift, military press or bent row if I were you man. They arent good for size at all.....not!
hahahahahahaahahahahahaha.....good one man
All I can say is that I see alot of tiny guys outlifting huge guys at my gym. On the other hand the huge guys are pushing the weights up and down and the tiny ones are either just jiggling them at the top or having their skinny friend do most of the work.
Just for the record I'm the tiny guy not lifting much. But I am lifting it.
Just for the record I'm the tiny guy not lifting much. But I am lifting it.
Robert Jan
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i know a guy who was deadlifting 470 for 3 reps at a weight of 148 lbs.
Not taking anything away form the small guys.There are alot of them who are stronger than sh*t. As stated above it has to do more with muscle makeup and body configuration than overall size. some peoples bodies are just made to do certain things better.
But the little guys have to also understand that most bigger guys didn't get big by lifting lite weight. If you do your research and understand that you do not always lift max poundages you might see it a little differently. just becuase that big guy is lifting less weight than you at a given time doesn't mean he is not capable of more. You might be lifting your max and he is warming up/cooling down or is doingvery strict reps with the emphasis on muscle control. I am probably one of the bigger guys in my gym and I see smaller guys laugh at the weights I bench with. Its usually the guys (we all know) young, skinney/ripped, wife beater wearing mirror boys. most of the time you need to understand that it's not how much you lift it's how smart you lift. You are all in the gym for most of the same reasons. Just do your thing and it will make you happy. If you still have a problem with the big guys, just be nice and ask why they are training a certain way. and they might give you some good advice and vice versa. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY ARE THE BIG GUYS AND YOU ARE THE LITTLE GUYS. ENOUGH SAID. Rockett
But the little guys have to also understand that most bigger guys didn't get big by lifting lite weight. If you do your research and understand that you do not always lift max poundages you might see it a little differently. just becuase that big guy is lifting less weight than you at a given time doesn't mean he is not capable of more. You might be lifting your max and he is warming up/cooling down or is doingvery strict reps with the emphasis on muscle control. I am probably one of the bigger guys in my gym and I see smaller guys laugh at the weights I bench with. Its usually the guys (we all know) young, skinney/ripped, wife beater wearing mirror boys. most of the time you need to understand that it's not how much you lift it's how smart you lift. You are all in the gym for most of the same reasons. Just do your thing and it will make you happy. If you still have a problem with the big guys, just be nice and ask why they are training a certain way. and they might give you some good advice and vice versa. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY ARE THE BIG GUYS AND YOU ARE THE LITTLE GUYS. ENOUGH SAID. Rockett
HulkRow
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maybe i shouldent have said big..i should have added "big" means tall with biggish but fatty arms...its all good, all the end og the day we will see how comes home with the results..ohh yeah im not the skinny dude that wears the wife beater and thinks im the shit..i fucking wear t shirts and shit i dont want them to see shit only when they really have too.
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