What is wrong with training everyday?

[Cackerot69]

OK you asked...

When we train we tear down muscle fibers and calcium levels inside the cell are elevated and this causes portions of the fiber to "break off". Then immune cells called macrophages start removing the dead tissue and when this is complete mRNA send the signal for nuclei to synthesize proteins (build muscle).

If you don't allow enough time between workouts the mRNA will never signal the muscle growth process, so you don't grow and actually get stronger due to continually breaking down muscle without it adapting by getting bigger.

Training also takes a toll on the nervous system, and if you train to frequently the nervous system will not be able to recover and it will go into a state of inhibition to protect itself. When this happens the nervous system just doesn't recruit fibers or fire motor units to their potential, basically it FORCES you not to be able to train hard enough to grow.

Training also depletes intra-muscular reserves (glucose, ATP, etc), and these can take up to 3 days to replenish. If you don't allow these reserves to replete then you end up with an energy debt in the muscle and further growth can't be stimulated.

Get it?

 

[b fold the truth]

I try to do something light everyday. That light exercise may be warming up my bis, tris, working calves, hip flexors, adductors, etc. I lift 4x a week and try to train events 1x a week. I do not train to total failure and if I am lucky..I may do 1-2 sets to failure a week. West-side is working for me very well.

B True

 

[Imnotdutch]

Ok I guess this'll be my second lesson of the day......

By macrophages you mean phagocytes??

The nuclei you mention.....are you talking about the nuclei within all cells?.....or is this some other larger scale nuclei?
I'm struggling to see how mRNA could signal anything to a cell nucleus.....as mRNA is synthesised in the nucleus and then together with ribosomes makes proteins in the cytosol. So mRNA isnt a signal in that sense.....

I understand the rest

OK you asked...

When we train we tear down muscle fibers and calcium levels inside the cell are elevated and this causes portions of the fiber to "break off". Then immune cells called macrophages start removing the dead tissue and when this is complete mRNA send the signal for nuclei to synthesize proteins (build muscle).

If you don't allow enough time between workouts the mRNA will never signal the muscle growth process, so you don't grow and actually get stronger due to continually breaking down muscle without it adapting by getting bigger.

Training also takes a toll on the nervous system, and if you train to frequently the nervous system will not be able to recover and it will go into a state of inhibition to protect itself. When this happens the nervous system just doesn't recruit fibers or fire motor units to their potential, basically it FORCES you not to be able to train hard enough to grow.

Training also depletes intra-muscular reserves (glucose, ATP, etc), and these can take up to 3 days to replenish. If you don't allow these reserves to replete then you end up with an energy debt in the muscle and further growth can't be stimulated.

Get it?

 

[Cackerot69]

"...so you don't grow and actually get stronger due to continually breaking down muscle without it adapting by getting bigger..."

That shoulda read "...and actually get smaller..." lol.

Anyway...

Macrophages are a type of phagocyte. I didn't go through the entire process, I skipped over some of the less important/boring parts like ubiquitin binding to broken off muscle fiber causes histocytes to be stimulated and then neutrophils are released and are complemented by monocytes which turn into macrophages. Then the macrophages release some growth factors (IGF-2, FGF, prostaglandins, test, hGH) which starts the anabolism of the tissue. The activity of macrophaes also stimulants Type IV pain receptors in muscle (which sense dull pain) which is believed to be the primary cause of DOMS. Then satellite cells differentiate and proliferate and eventually fuse with muscle cells...and this means nuclei are formed and now the protein synthesis required to adapt to the workout are there. The mRNA comes in because nuclei have the mRNA which is then sent out to ribosomes. The mRNA "instructs" the ribosome's to synthesize new proteins......and you grow.

 

[Imnotdutch]

Ok I'm with you now......thx again.

"...so you don't grow and actually get stronger due to continually breaking down muscle without it adapting by getting bigger..."

That shoulda read "...and actually get smaller..." lol.

Anyway...

Macrophages are a type of phagocyte. I didn't go through the entire process, I skipped over some of the less important/boring parts like ubiquitin binding to broken off muscle fiber causes histocytes to be stimulated and then neutrophils are released and are complemented by monocytes which turn into macrophages. Then the macrophages release some growth factors (IGF-2, FGF, prostaglandins, test, hGH) which starts the anabolism of the tissue. The activity of macrophaes also stimulants Type IV pain receptors in muscle (which sense dull pain) which is believed to be the primary cause of DOMS. Then satellite cells differentiate and proliferate and eventually fuse with muscle cells...and this means nuclei are formed and now the protein synthesis required to adapt to the workout are there. The mRNA comes in because nuclei have the mRNA which is then sent out to ribosomes. The mRNA "instructs" the ribosome's to synthesize new proteins......and you grow.

 

[Y_lifter]

I like that Phemomena :
"YOU DON'T GROW IN THE GYM"
It says it all for me......

I've been pushing it way too hard for the last 3 months and now I'm having lower back issues.
I will probably have to either take a few days off lifting or learn to sleep on the floor and work all day standing up to get the pain to go away...
Per the Doc, LS Strain

 

[cgi2]

"...so you don't grow and actually get stronger due to continually breaking down muscle without it adapting by getting bigger..."

That shoulda read "...and actually get smaller..." lol.

Anyway...

Macrophages are a type of phagocyte. I didn't go through the entire process, I skipped over some of the less important/boring parts like ubiquitin binding to broken off muscle fiber causes histocytes to be stimulated and then neutrophils are released and are complemented by monocytes which turn into macrophages. Then the macrophages release some growth factors (IGF-2, FGF, prostaglandins, test, hGH) which starts the anabolism of the tissue. The activity of macrophaes also stimulants Type IV pain receptors in muscle (which sense dull pain) which is believed to be the primary cause of DOMS. Then satellite cells differentiate and proliferate and eventually fuse with muscle cells...and this means nuclei are formed and now the protein synthesis required to adapt to the workout are there. The mRNA comes in because nuclei have the mRNA which is then sent out to ribosomes. The mRNA "instructs" the ribosome's to synthesize new proteins......and you grow.

Hey cackerot,
I'd like to know more about the science behind bodybuilding. Can you suggest a few sources of information?
Thanks
-Carl