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What is the overall best? Best steroid, best pct, best gyno treatment

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ok needtogetass i need your advice please my current cycle which is ongoing is

Test E
Tren A
Test P
Mast P
Primo Depo
Winstrol Depot

totalling its a 16 weeks cycle dont worry few of them are getting stopped early im sure u know which ones ^^ and from week 2 i started taking arimidex .25mgs EOD and HCG 500iu 1 shot a week now what should be my pct after i finish my cycle as i have done 5 cycles in the past and nolvadex pisses me off i lose some gains also i really cannot be bothered to get out of bed let alone going gym so do i use arimidex only for pct or aromasin and arimidex or i dont know u advice me best pleeeaseeee will be heavily appreciated man thanks
 
uzumaki7 said:
ok needtogetass i need your advice please my current cycle which is ongoing is

Test E
Tren A
Test P
Mast P
Primo Depo
Winstrol Depot

totalling its a 16 weeks cycle dont worry few of them are getting stopped early im sure u know which ones ^^ and from week 2 i started taking arimidex .25mgs EOD and HCG 500iu 1 shot a week now what should be my pct after i finish my cycle as i have done 5 cycles in the past and nolvadex pisses me off i lose some gains also i really cannot be bothered to get out of bed let alone going gym so do i use arimidex only for pct or aromasin and arimidex or i dont know u advice me best pleeeaseeee will be heavily appreciated man thanks
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Looks like a heavy cycle my bro. First I would run the hcg 500ius twice a week rather then just once. Unless you are prone to gyno it looks to me like you have plenty of dht action to keep sides in check during the cycle. Have you ever tried not running the ai during the cycle?

When the cycle is over you can use forma-stanzol because it lowers estrogen,progesterone and shbg. At the same time it acts like a serm too. The day the cycle ends up would start pct and i would run it like this

1-4 hcgenerate 5 caps every day.
1-6 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm
2-6 unleashed and post cycle 3 caps of each every day
1-6 .5mg adex every day (optional)
 
i dont understand this whole pump thing about forma what dfoes that mean u drink it ? inject it ? or shove it up the ass lol wh ever i ask they direct me to a link of forma on a teaspoon but it doesnt say how to take it lol but yeah i reallya ppreciate it bro currently im taking .5mg arimidex monday and thursday during my cycle and ofcourse instead of proviron i got masteron but yeah will do pct as u say but please do update me and clear the whole pump thing for me id apreciate it thanks by the way im on the 3rd week of my cycle and here is how much of what im doing

Test E 750mg EW week 1-12
Primo Depot 1000 mg EW 1-12
TrenA/Test Prop/Mast P Blend = TrenA=75mg, TestP=100mg, MastP=75mg EOD Week 1-8
Winstrol Depot 50mg ED Week 9-12
Anavar 80mg ED Week 1-8
Dbol 50mg ED Week 9-12
Testosteron Suspension 100mg EOD Week 9-12
Arimidex .5mg Week 2-12 monday and thursday
Dostinox .5 mg weeks 2-12 monday and thursday
HCG Week 2-12 (currently 1 shot a week)

So far i havent got any gyno or any probs what so ever i feel like the hulk im going around the gym destroying everything screaming HULK SMASH HULK BASH ! looool im sure u can relate to that needtogetass :P but yeah so far its nothing but lean lean lean gains and getting really ripped and strength is like holy shit by training naturally i went up to benching 120 kilos now im benching 165 kilos and im guessing in this cycle its going to keep increasing my pct is as folllows

Aromasin
Arimidex
Forma stanozol (if u tell me how to use it lol)
Clomid

Nolvadex sucks donkey dic on my previous cycle which was test e, deca, dbol and abombs i did everything perfectly ate right took the right pct everything but because of nolva i lost some gains that i wouldnt have if i had used arimidex or aromasin instead fuckin piss take every grams of muscle gains counts is frikin hard work getting i mean all the money spent on food gym fees supplements protection and the gear and even if i lose a gram of muscle i get pissed and coz of nolva i lose like 8 pounds of mass and my friend did the exact same cycle as me but for pct he didnt use nolva and he only lost 4 pounds of gains which was mainly water weight but anyway yeah please do advice and according to my gear and routine please advice pct and ofcourse how to take forma and yeah i decided to kick it down to 12 weeks as im pretty sure if i do 16 weeks i will become a poor bastard a gram of primo weekly for 10 weeks cost me close to 800 dollars so yeah as u can see this cycle is hella not cheap and yeah do give me some info on the gains and looks and everything i will get on this cycle especially with a gram of primo weekly which people say is literally a miracle to have in a cycle if affordable and before u ask my stats here they are

26
208 pounds
12-13% BF
done 5 cycles in the past
training naturally from 15 to 21

im consuming exactly around 3500 cals a day in this cycle of all pure health and organic foods and ofcourse have all my liv protections and antioxidants etc anyways lemme know bro and i will sooooo apppreciate it i already do but like 10 fold more lol peace.
 
by the way my friend told me in the last 4 weeks of my cyle when im hitting winstrol depot he said to avoid joint aches and pains i should take deca not the long esther one because 1. no point needs to be used for 10 weeks to get effects but i was told to use durabolan the short esther one eod for the last 4 weeks my friend has a stack of them and said he will give them to me as he doesnt need them anymore so umm should i or not ? because i have used winny before and yeah i know about those aches even glucosamine didnt help and the only thing that helps is deca but in my case (the short esther) plus i know tren a and deca (Adil are u fuckin insane wanna have a puffy dick for 6 months ?) lol i know thats why i was advised to use short esther but it will be used from week 9 and tren a finishes on week 8 but anyway i rather listen to you coz u da mayan ^^
 
needtogetaas said:
Looks like a heavy cycle my bro. First I would run the hcg 500ius twice a week rather then just once. Unless you are prone to gyno it looks to me like you have plenty of dht action to keep sides in check during the cycle. Have you ever tried not running the ai during the cycle?

When the cycle is over you can use forma-stanzol because it lowers estrogen,progesterone and shbg. At the same time it acts like a serm too. The day the cycle ends up would start pct and i would run it like this

1-4 hcgenerate 5 caps every day.
1-6 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm
2-6 unleashed and post cycle 3 caps of each every day
1-6 .5mg adex every day (optional)
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DEFF how I would rec it!
great set up Need2! :-)
 
how do u take the forma pumps what do u do how to take it ? please please please tell me that and i will tattoo your names on my guns at the end of my cycle lool
 
one upon a time a dude called adil came n elitfitness t ask how to take forma and n that dreaded day no one answered him.......... :(
 
theres a post up that need to put up on how to use the stuff dummy proof. I cant post links sorry man. Search for the forma stanzolol
 
Weird question, I know, but this doesn't seem to absorb into my skin well. Would it be ok to mix it with my regular body lotion to help with this?
 
Bump.
 
seems like a great product, any one have any gyno removal results with it?

Im thinking of ordering just for the gains and fat loss benifits. But I realy would love to rid this gyno :worried:


Also I notice it suggests 10 weeks, what if I were to run it for 12-14 . Does it lose it effects after such a long period of time.
 
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you can run it as long as you like but its not the best idea to keep estrogen and progesterone to low for too long unless you are trying to get rid of gyno... If you got a gyno problem now then forma-stanzol can help but trust me you may need a different program and I got that all set for people just send me a pm...

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...gens-side-effects-preventing-gyno-720251.html
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Just placed my order. Sent you a PM earlier in the day but it was more about gyno then forma.

And yes Im trying to rid of some gyno, But I also dont want to get any weaker , like i did with my nolva, letro failed attepmts.

I have some test E, EQ and T-bol with nolva and HCG kicken around. Only reason im hesitant on using it is because of my gyno. But Im itchin bad to hit it again.

But If you can point me in the right direction on using this with my cycle and possibly getting rid of my gyno please DO :D
 
maxspeed96ct said:
Just placed my order. Sent you a PM earlier in the day but it was more about gyno then forma.

And yes Im trying to rid of some gyno, But I also dont want to get any weaker , like i did with my nolva, letro failed attepmts.

I have some test E, EQ and T-bol with nolva and HCG kicken around. Only reason im hesitant on using it is because of my gyno. But Im itchin bad to hit it again.

But If you can point me in the right direction on using this with my cycle and possibly getting rid of my gyno please DO :D
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I would start off with 10 pumps am and 10pumps pm and see how fast the gyno is reducing, then you can bump down to 10 pumps a day while on cycle.
 
is there a natural or steroids or it might not be one but....do u have some natural intake that I can use? I am having allergic reaction on one
 
i going to be doing a 6 week Dianabol cycle
i am going to run Forma Stanzol for POST CYCLE THERAPY and for estrogen and progesterone control for the full 6 weeks cycle
and Dianabol 30mg a day.

On cycle
Forma Stanzol Apply 3 pumps twice daily
Dianabol 30/30/30/30/30/30
POST CYCLE THERAPY
Forma Stanzol Apply 3 pumps twice daily 4 weeks


is the cycle ok to do?
it will be my first cycle
 
Hey guys, I loved the forma. I had some decent sized lumps for about a year. The letro/caber mix I ran didn't really help much. A couple of months ago I got the forma to add to my Katanadrol 2.0 6 week run. In those six weeks at 10pumps twice daily I was able to pretty much eradicate the gyno.

Now I'm not sure if this is typical, but it's been three weeks since I've finished the bottle, but my lumps are starting to return. NOT knocking forma at all, cause it does exactly what it says it will do!, but I'm wishing I could just get it gone and not worry about it anymore...
 
Guys just wanted to throw my input in on this too. Used it post cycle as Needto had told me to and it seemed that it really caused me to tighten up a bit. I know it mentioned it can be used by itself for fat loss but I think that along with other support supps it achieved this as well. I know my post count over here is low but my home is over on the NTBM boards. New over here. Hope I helped some though.
 
Speak freely on elite bro . No one is looked down on here no matter how new or old they are to the site. Because if some one acts like a child here I just ban them when I cathc them doing it. SO will the other mods.
 
That will suck if they decide to ban form, which means no more Forma, best be stocking up on Forma before anything drastic occurs.
 
id like to see some proven claims and research behind the products other than word of mouth..........

there arent any new supps in his products to be honest......i can get them in raws and do it myself. why choose his products over say a bulk supplier?
 
I have read a few of the pages in this thread but cant seem to find the answer I am looking ( or maybe I am over looking it)...I am looking for weight lose and muscle gain but I am not running any cycle..can this product be used alone or is it recomended during and after one??
 
Sorry guys but I have a question
Went to the doctor because i have a case of gyno and they said my prolactin level was a bit to high. The doctor just told me to come back in a month and just to see if it goes away. Well I have had this case of gyno for over 4 months.
Anything I could treat this with?
 
jaa20 said:
Sorry guys but I have a question
Went to the doctor because i have a case of gyno and they said my prolactin level was a bit to high. The doctor just told me to come back in a month and just to see if it goes away. Well I have had this case of gyno for over 4 months.
Anything I could treat this with?
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Letro and prami or forma-stanzol bro
 
Sounds like you went to a primary care physician for a condition that he knows very little about and even less about how to treat it.
 
I just went pretty much to the urgent care. Um do you think I should see my doctor back at home that I usually go to for everything?
 
I, personally would listen to either experienced vets on these forums or find a men's vitality clinic or a competent endocrinologist in your area.
 
What's the shelf life on forma-stanzol. I've had a bottle sitting for a while reconsidered timing of a future cycle.......
 
Best PCT is SarmsSearch MK-2866 (OSTA). Period.

Throw in some HcGenerate and bridge and youre golden
 
I think the steroid is really bad thing to get that makes you comfort while you are using that other wise it verso the health.
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Thanks
 
I found a lot of good prohoromes and post cycle products fromwww.strongsupplementshop.com /They have hard to find supplements like halodrol, max lmg, superdrol, cynostane. You will also see reviews and other cool facts about the items that you purchase.
 
needtogetaas said:
Less then 2 weeks bro. The product is made and ready to go. I outsourced the label job through another company because the one I always work with could not get me the clear label and cool colors I wanted :biggrin:. Once they are done making the labels they will get shipped to my reg people and then the product will be on its way. This product will be produced and sold under Mrsupps.com

:biggrin::biggrin:
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Where can I buy some good gear. Tires of paying so much for someone else to get it for me. If you can help please let me know. Thanks
 
In your very first post you decided to break the biggest rule on the board?

Read the rules bro, or you will be banned. No sourcing.

Sent from my SCH-I500 using EliteFitness
 
Lefty78 said:
What can one expect if they take this solo? Can you use this as a standalone cycle?
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run it 8 weeks 5 pumps am and pm if running it alone. You will notice fat lose and or a lot less fat being stored. A rise in test so more strength and more strength too. Nothing magic ok maybe a step below if you have never used shit like it before... Its a Ai man. If you have not used steroids or a pro hormone it will be awesome for you.. It pulls water out of the skin you apply it to . I use it before I go to the club every damn time lmao... Want to make your arms look twice as big rub it on your arms and the rest of the night they look huge lmao.. Love that shit...
 
needtogetaas Need your help! How do I get rid of puberty gyno, is there a way besides surgery? I've read up on a board member C.K. on here and trying his protocol. The thing is I have rebounded. I ran Forma for my PCT for a good 6 weeks which helped tremendously! But once I stopped I noticed the rebound happening, this began while running a regular fat burner. Then I began using Forma as a standalone together with the fat burner, I was using 10pumps, AM and PM and noticed it helped quite a bit but also had severe atrophy. After reading CK protocol, I have decided to run Letro 2.5mg ED and may bump to 5mg and taper off towards the end, running it for 4 weeks and then thinking of going on another 4 weeks of Forma.
Do you think this will STOP me from getting a rebound and help rid of the puberty gyno?? My waist too seems to get thicker... I can't stand looking and feeling like this :(
 
rollovah said:
needtogetaas Need your help! How do I get rid of puberty gyno, is there a way besides surgery? I've read up on a board member C.K. on here and trying his protocol. The thing is I have rebounded. I ran Forma for my PCT for a good 6 weeks which helped tremendously! But once I stopped I noticed the rebound happening, this began while running a regular fat burner. Then I began using Forma as a standalone together with the fat burner, I was using 10pumps, AM and PM and noticed it helped quite a bit but also had severe atrophy. After reading CK protocol, I have decided to run Letro 2.5mg ED and may bump to 5mg and taper off towards the end, running it for 4 weeks and then thinking of going on another 4 weeks of Forma.
Do you think this will STOP me from getting a rebound and help rid of the puberty gyno?? My waist too seems to get thicker... I can't stand looking and feeling like this :(
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Puberty gyno? How old are you bro?

Unfortunately I dont think that supplements are going to help you with that - gyno caused by puberty is a constant hormonal imbalance and not a temporary one, so it will probably help while you're taking it, but afterwards it will come back every time until you're older.

Unfortunately I'm in my 20s and I still get natural gyno - just a genetic thing, my old man had the same thing.
 
This is really amazing and i like to have them. I have weak body and just had HRT treatment. So i want to make my body strong and healthy.
 
Just ordered Starter Stack, very excited...will post results. Keep the advice coming on best way to use.

*47, 185, 5'8", 20%bf, weightlifting and elliptical, 5-6 times a week. Trying volume training mixed with cardio at this time. Taking antioxidants, anti-inflammatory, immune boosters. And, Elk antler velvet 1500. Looking to lower bf, and maintain weight range.
 
metalfujimi said:
needto sure knows how to write up a report. good info bro
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Hi,
Now see best steroid, best pct and best gyno treatment all have their own specific effect. It depends on you which may be effective for you, you can make use of it. There are lots of products related fitness available in the market, but may be all are not so effective.
 
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