What day do you Deadlift or Olympic Press?

[mm107]

I have heard mixed reviews, i know dont mix deadlifts w/ sqauts, wich is a leg day.

So im thinking throw in the deadlifts on back days.
But what about the olympic Presses? Back days as well?

Or should i say fuck it and Do Deadlifts and Olympic Presses on its OWN day?

just wondering, i really never used either exciercise, but now im educated and i dont want to waste time in the gym.

 

[djeclipse]

I think you'll have to post up the rest of your workout in order to have people tell you where they fit in best.

I'm doing the 5x5 intermediate and I deadlift and do standing military press (along with a light squat) on day 2/ wednesday.

 

[mm107]

I think you'll have to post up the rest of your workout in order to have people tell you where they fit in best.

I'm doing the 5x5 intermediate and I deadlift and do standing military press (along with a light squat) on day 2/ wednesday.

Your right, i got to writeout my routine.
ill post it in a lil bit, at work right now busy

 

[xblitz44x]

Mine looks something like this:

Monday - Bench
Row
Dip
Chin

Tuesday - Squat
Power Shrug
Calfs

Thursday - Bench
Row
Push Press
Chin

Friday - Deadlift
Squat
Good Morning

My 'heavy squat day' is on Tuesday. Friday's squat is more of a 5x5 with a lighter weight.

 

[bignate73]

Olympic Presses? help me out here.

Do you mean Overhead presses, push presses, clean and jerk?

sorry, im not following the terminology.

 

[mekannik]

Olympic Presses? help me out here.

Do you mean Overhead presses, push presses, clean and jerk?

sorry, im not following the terminology.

http://jva.ontariostrongman.ca/PRESS.htm

 

[bignate73]

http://jva.ontariostrongman.ca/PRESS.htm

i really hope he isn't doing them like some of those pictures.....

 

[coldblue1955]

at least once per week.

 

[Madcow2]

Interestingly you can kind of see how weightlifting eliminated the press and thus skewed the sport to the faster more squat-powerful lifter rather than the 'teddy bear type' (as one old timer once called it) that was built for upper body pressing. Right about this time is when you really see powerlifting begin to come into its own and gain momentum. Notice that powerlifting allows a number of higher weightclasses to allow for differentiation among lifters and much higher average bodyweights (which everyone knows greatly affects the press), is heavily focused on the press, and provided a place to thrive for a weightlifter with a build no longer conducive to OL. This wasn't my original theory and I didn't live through the era but it makes sense and seems to fit the circumstances.

 

[kingkrs]

Here is the same question that was asked of Charles Poliquin:

Q: You and Ian King have convinced me that I should incorporate power cleans and deadlifts into my program. Where should I put them? Should I do them on leg or back day? I am sore in the legs, back, and traps after deadlifting and have the same problem with power cleans. Any suggestions?

A: Power cleans or deadlifts are to be done on leg day, since they overload the powerful hip and knee extensors. If you choose to do power cleans, make sure that you do them first in the workout?they require a lot of coordination. Doing them last might cause you to wreak havoc on the gym, yourself, and the people around you.

If you're on a program that aims at driving up your power clean or deadlift, make sure to cycle your squatting workouts appropriately according to your level of recovery ability. The number of mutants out there that can naturally drive up their squats and deadlifts at the same time?the last time I checked?is very, very low.

You may also want to watch the amount of indirect work, such as bent-over barbell rows, that you do for the lower back. I remember having dinner with exercise rehab specialist Paul Chek a couple of years ago and, of course, the topic of training came up. Paul was complaining that none of his lifts were increasing. I asked him some questions about how he was training, and the reason for his plateau became obvious: he wanted to improve his squat, deadlift, and bent-over row poundages at the same time.

My advice to him was rather simple: choose one of those three lifts and work hard at it for three to four weeks, then switch to another lift.

 

[mm107]

DAMN now thats an answer.
Thanks bro!

Looks like ill alternate Deadlifts and Sqauts. Every 2 weeks switch em up. I would love to Sqaut Mondays & Deadlift Fridays' But my recovery time seems some improving. And trust me im not undereating lol

 

[Tweakle]

It all depends on your recovery ability, the amount of 'grind' in your deadlift sessions and the loads used

I like mon - squat, fri deadlift, next wed squat, etc for lift rotation

 

[mm107]

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to Tweakle again.

Thats what i was trying to incorporate exactly what you said into my routine.

 

[fbodyguy02]

On back days...

 

[kingkrs]

DAMN now thats an answer.
Thanks bro!

Looks like ill alternate Deadlifts and Sqauts. Every 2 weeks switch em up. I would love to Sqaut Mondays & Deadlift Fridays' But my recovery time seems some improving. And trust me im not undereating lol

Yeah bro, Charles is the man. I have learned so much from him and made so much progress from his advice, more than any other author, coach, or so called expert.

I have all his books and am considering purchasing his certification program.

 

[Madcow2]

The only thing in his comment that you have to watch is what level the lifter is at. A novice and to a degree a lot of people on this board have no problems bringing up multiple core lifts all at once even at a pretty fast clip. The more advanced you get the harder this is. Sort of like young kids and sports. You can increase their strength, speed, skill, muscular body weight, all while in the midst of a season. Of course you take an NFL player and this just isn't possible so you wind up with off, pre, in, seasons. A lot of people complicate the hell out of training borrowing from specialist information thinking that the best lifter will be using the best program. Unfortunately, the best program for an elite lifter will likely crush or provide agonizingly slow and suboptimal gains for a novice. What is best depends totally on the individual their current state, goals, and needs.