What a beating they laid on this guy...

[Steve The Bluesman]

This is the guy that stabbed an old lady, and while in custody, took a cops gun, shot him 3 times in the face, and then jumped out of a 3 story window.

The cops caught him.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news
tmpl=story&u=/050418/480/wxs10104181559

Esteban Carpio, 26, left, is shown during his arraignment hearing Monday, April 18, 2005, at Providence District Court in Providence, R.I. Carpio was charged with killing Detective James Allen with the officer's own gun during questioning at police headquarters Sunday and was ordered held without bail Monday. His face is obscured by a white mask. Police have said he injured his leg, arm and head when he jumped from a third-floor window at the police building. (AP Photo/Gretchen Ertl, Pool)

The spit mask is funny - I would bet a lot of money that he has missing teeth and a broken jaw under there. I don't think he would be capable of spitting!


Bluesman

 

[KillahBee]

My friend is a Providence cop and was in the building when it happened. He told me that day that they just kicked the ever loving shit out of the guy. I saw his pic in USA Today yesterday - his face was destroyed.

 

[supersizeme]

 

[sweed]

hooooooly shit

 

[sigweed]

holy crap

nothing less than he deserved though

 

[DEEZPAZ]

They should have broken both his arms and legs too!!

 

[Razorguns]

Funny -- whre are those those pro-criminal-rights folks who are so anti-prison-rape, here now to yell at the cops for doing this to him?

I knew it was a lazy fly-by-night cause-of-the-day for them.

 

[Austin316]

I hope to god people don't start screaming about this animals "human rights' he has none and should be tortured, maimed, and killed they let him off lightly

 

[Razorguns]

I hope to god people don't start screaming about this animals "human rights' he has none and should be tortured, maimed, and killed they let him off lightly

Oh, the officers will be arrested. Probalby charged and land in the same jail as this schmuck. Don't under-estimate the power of the colored community.

They'll paint this kid as a victim of a "struggle gone bad", and racist over-zealous cops.

Either way, the laws are clear. Cops can only detain and arrest. Not assault. It's what gives cops bad names and the stereotype of being aggressive power hungry assholes who love to beat up people. Whether they deserve it becomes a matter of opinion: Whether u support the criminal or not.

Cops can't be the decider of "who gets a beat-down and who doesn't".

Therefore, i do hope the cops get arrested and charged.

And yes, there are anti-cop assholes out there, probably on this board, who are happy a cop got shot and are rejoicing right now. Many in this country will look at him as a hero. That's how fucked up people in this country are.

 

[manny78]

This guy is going to sue the PD and make millions. Oh wait, Johnny Cochran is dead... Good lord !

 

[onerepmaximum]

This isn't somebody's avatar yet?

 

[jaded]

holy shit

 

[Ulcasterdropout]

Dayum...

 

[KillahBee]

My buddy just called and said the wake was today and the funeral is tomorrow - over 1,000 cops (not counting civilians) for all over were there. The guy had a 12 and 14 yo daughter.

 

[Austin316]

someone should kill the fucker before he drags the court in then kill whoever tries to sue in his place lol

seriously I fucking hate how the law works in these cases these idiots use it as a cop out plain and simple and people are ignorant to paint a monster as a martyr

 

[Razorguns]

What a surprise.

I posted this on another board, and all the skate punkers and hippies all start rejoicing how another asshole cop was taken out, and what the cops did was worse, blah blah blah.

Him getting beat up is what'll probably get him much less jail time. He should be happy for that. It'll keep his name in the news, and every DA *hates* press. Press == pressure.

 

[Spartacus]

Oh, the officers will be arrested. Probalby charged and land in the same jail as this schmuck. Don't under-estimate the power of the colored community.

They'll paint this kid as a victim of a "struggle gone bad", and racist over-zealous cops.

in the news video there was a few dozen blacks in the courtroom(standing room only)
there was much wailing when dude came into court

if I pulled a stunt such as that my father would have called the cops and mandated they beat the shit outta me

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

in the news video there was a few dozen blacks in the courtroom(standing room only)
there was much wailing when dude came into court

if I pulled a stunt such as that my father would have called the cops and mandated they beat the shit outta me

I saw this on tv and his family was up in arms and appalled at what whoever they were did to him, and had to be escorted out of the court room.

 

[Spartacus]

I saw this on tv and his family was up in arms and appalled at what whoever they were did to him, and had to be escorted out of the court room.

yup
not to mention stabbing an elderly lady

 

[Mr. dB]

Either way, the laws are clear. Cops can only detain and arrest. Not assault. It's what gives cops bad names and the stereotype of being aggressive power hungry assholes who love to beat up people. Whether they deserve it becomes a matter of opinion: Whether u support the criminal or not.

Exactly. Justice is to be meted out AFTER the trial, not before.

 

[needtogrow]

Those cops are a bunch of slackers.


They should still be beating that piece of shit.

 

[NJjuice22]

Those cops are a bunch of slackers.


They should still be beating that piece of shit.

well if you look at the pic there is still blood dripping down on the mask, they must have beat his ass over night and on the way to the courtroom....also, his family called an ambulance and had him taken to the hospital before all this happened because he had been acting crazy as of late "pacing, seeing things, etc". kid has some fucked up mental issues.

 

[mountain muscle]

well if you look at the pic there is still blood dripping down on the mask, they must have beat his ass over night and on the way to the courtroom....also, his family called an ambulance and had him taken to the hospital before all this happened because he had been acting crazy as of late "pacing, seeing things, etc". kid has some fucked up mental issues.

I am sure it is nothing that some shock therapy in old sparky wouldn't cure.
What the cops did to him, if they did it, should have no bearing on his sentencing. It should only affect the disciplinary actions against them.

 

[KillahBee]

I am sure it is nothing that some shock therapy in old sparky wouldn't cure.
What the cops did to him, if they did it, should have no bearing on his sentencing. It should only affect the disciplinary actions against them.

they did it

 

[mountain muscle]

they did it

Thanks KB now I am certain of it. I hope they did do it to be honest. But it shouldn't have any bearing on what happens to him.

 

[JayC9]

It's common in my home town for the local police to dispense with all the paper work and just chuck an offender in the back of the van where half a dozen officers will give them a good f**king kicking and then dump them on the street.

The swelling always makes an injury look worse. This guy in the picture looks like he got what was coming to him. How do you expect the officers to react when they get ahold of the guy who's just shot one of their partners?

 

[KillahBee]

Thanks KB now I am certain of it. I hope they did do it to be honest. But it shouldn't have any bearing on what happens to him.

lol - one of my best friends is a Providence cop.

 

[needtogrow]

Idea==Load up the cooler throw the grill in the back of the truck and head down to the local court house for some good ol tailgating and an old fashion hanging. Since we will all be there they might as well throw all those child molesting murderers up there and make a full day out of it.


Damn, I should be an event planner

 

[Spartacus]

Idea==Load up the cooler throw the grill in the back of the truck and head down to the local court house for some good ol tailgating and an old fashion hanging. Since we will all be there they might as well throw all those child molesting murderers up there and make a full day out of it.


Damn, I should be an event planner

hangins were popular back in the days
I think they let out school for that shit

 

[Austin316]

Idea==Load up the cooler throw the grill in the back of the truck and head down to the local court house for some good ol tailgating and an old fashion hanging. Since we will all be there they might as well throw all those child molesting murderers up there and make a full day out of it.


Damn, I should be an event planner

Where do I buy entrance tickets?

 

[Creepusmaximus]

He deserved what he got.

 

[DIVISION]

Exactly. Justice is to be meted out AFTER the trial, not before.

I agree.

In this country the police don't have the right to beat people, regardless of what crime they committed.

If he murdered a cop, he'll likely get life or death penalty anyway........so why beat him?

Police lose all credibility when they pull this type of shit.

I hope the cops who did it get slapped with a major lawsuit, and Providence Police Dept. as well.....




DIV

 

[canadianhitman]

He stabbed an old lady...right at that point, he deserves what he got.

 

[n0th1ng]

They didn't beat him.. he uh landed on his face when he jumped out of the window.. yeah thats it.

 

[DIVISION]

They didn't beat him.. he uh landed on his face when he jumped out of the window.. yeah thats it.

I'm not standing up for the guy, I'm actually standing up for the cops........they make themselves look bad when they do this.... The bring scrutiny from all types of organizations and bad publicity. The damage that a lawsuit may bring to the city just isn't worth beating this guy......his life is already pretty much over for killing the cop.



DIV

 

[Razorguns]

I'm not standing up for the guy, I'm actually standing up for the cops........they make themselves look bad when they do this.... The bring scrutiny from all types of organizations and bad publicity. The damage that a lawsuit may bring to the city just isn't worth beating this guy......his life is already pretty much over for killing the cop.
DIV

I love the hypocrisy in this world.

When cops beat up certain criminals -- they're labelled criminals, power trippers, assholes, no good wannabee tough guys with badges.

And then they beat up a certain criminal -- now they're commended for it.

The law doesn't dictate to cops in the academy: "These are the people you beat the crap of, these are the people you don't".

If you allow the cops to do this -- then no one should complain when they beat up some guy who led them on a 20 minute car chase the next week. Unless you want to go to your congressman to draft laws on "which" criminals should get a beatdown and which shouldn't.

The city's gonna get a $20 million lawsuit. The victim's gonna get some high-powered NAACP-paid for, black lawyer. The inexperienced rhode island DA's gonna freak. They'll probably settle in exchange for leniere sentencing for the victim, like 2nd degree or something. parole in 20. All cops fired.

 

[DIVISION]

The city's gonna get a $20 million lawsuit. The victim's gonna get some high-powered NAACP-paid for, black lawyer. The inexperienced rhode island DA's gonna freak. They'll probably settle in exchange for leniere sentencing for the victim, like 2nd degree or something. parole in 20. All cops fired.

That's the state of things.......and yes I agree with you on all counts.

This shit is too easy to see, I'm just amazed the cops don't think these things out beforehand. You don't risk losing your job, being possibly prosecuted yourself for a mere 20 minutes of payback on some criminal.

Sure you beat him up real good, swole his eyes shut.......all that did was bolster his case, and you helped him.




DIV

 

[Razorguns]

Sure you beat him up real good, swole his eyes shut.......all that did was bolster his case, and you helped him.

And worse..

They did it to a BLACK guy!

White cops beating up black kid. That shit is GOLD for the media! You can spinoff tons of specials and reports off that. "Bad white cops beating up blackie prisoner" sells tons of newspapers.

If it was some white redneck -- no one would've cared. There's no Redneck Action Committee that'll pay for some high-priced lawyer who'll appear on CNN's Larry King for him every night.

Dumb cops. Dumb dumb dumb.

They're damn lucky no one was there with a videotape.

 

[DIVISION]

And worse..

They did it to a BLACK guy!

White cops beating up black kid. That shit is GOLD for the media! You can spinoff tons of specials and reports off that. "Bad white cops beating up blackie prisoner" sells tons of newspapers.

If it was some white redneck -- no one would've cared. There's no Redneck Action Committee that'll pay for some high-priced lawyer who'll appear on CNN's Larry King for him every night.

Dumb cops. Dumb dumb dumb.

They're damn lucky no one was there with a videotape.

I agree with you on alot of things.........just wish you didn't use racial terms like "blackie".....It kind of takes away from your argument when you do that.



DIV

 

[Razorguns]

I agree with you on alot of things.........just wish you didn't use racial terms like "blackie".....It kind of takes away from your argument when you do that.

I was giving an example of how the media views these incidents. Everything is racial to them. Young White attractive man killing young white attractive female is page 1 news. Illegal Hispanic man killing fat hispanic female is page 17.

 

[DIVISION]

I was giving an example of how the media views these incidents. Everything is racial to them. Young White attractive man killing young white attractive female is page 1 news. Illegal Hispanic man killing fat hispanic female is page 17.

In that respect you are right........I see what you mean.



DIV

 

[mountain muscle]

I agree.

In this country the police don't have the right to beat people, regardless of what crime they committed.

If he murdered a cop, he'll likely get life or death penalty anyway........so why beat him?

Police lose all credibility when they pull this type of shit.

I hope the cops who did it get slapped with a major lawsuit, and Providence Police Dept. as well.....




DIV

I hope the cops that did it face a fair trial not some publicised lawsuit brought on by the family of a known murderer.
You would have done the same thing Div if you were a cop unless in all your posts you are full of shit anyway.
Police don't lose credibility, nothing is proven against them yet. However, this murderer shot a cop in the face. Fact.

 

[mountain muscle]

I agree with you on alot of things.........just wish you didn't use racial terms like "blackie".....It kind of takes away from your argument when you do that.



DIV

Instead of blackie he should have used known murdering scum. What does race have to do with shooting anyone in the face?

 

[DIVISION]

I hope the cops that did it face a fair trial not some publicised lawsuit brought on by the family of a known murderer.
You would have done the same thing Div if you were a cop unless in all your posts you are full of shit anyway.
Police don't lose credibility, nothing is proven against them yet. However, this murderer shot a cop in the face. Fact.

I can't say whether I would have done it or not, since I'd never be a cop.



DIV

 

[mountain muscle]

I can't say whether I would have done it or not, since I'd never be a cop.



DIV

You would have done it as a human. The media may play this out to be a racial thing but damn look what he did. Racial bullshit has gone far enough. We have used this in our country long enough. Mete out justice as it is deserved. Who care what the police did to him.
Maybe they should be allowed to do this as a deterrant to certain crimes, or any crimes. We are such a pussified nation now it sickens me.

 

[WODIN]

looks like he fell down to me.

 

[Spartacus]

They didn't beat him.. he uh landed on his face when he jumped out of the window.. yeah thats it.

3 stories is sort of high up
I can't see proving beyond a reasonable doubt his injuires weren't sustained in the fall
cops had their "window of opportunity" and took full advantage of it
unlike when that Atlanta dude gave up in front of hundreds of camera's

 

[DIVISION]

You would have done it as a human. The media may play this out to be a racial thing but damn look what he did. Racial bullshit has gone far enough. We have used this in our country long enough. Mete out justice as it is deserved. Who care what the police did to him.
Maybe they should be allowed to do this as a deterrant to certain crimes, or any crimes. We are such a pussified nation now it sickens me.

I'm human.....and you may be right.....I can't say what I'd do.

You might be right though, MM.

The fact that he stabbed the old lady is something I can't stomach....

.......



DIV

 

[Spartacus]

I love the hypocrisy in this world.

When cops beat up certain criminals -- they're labelled criminals, power trippers, assholes, no good wannabee tough guys with badges.

And then they beat up a certain criminal -- now they're commended for it.

The law doesn't dictate to cops in the academy: "These are the people you beat the crap of, these are the people you don't".

In reality the police often play judge on the spot.
I've been let go a couple of times.

though I've never stabbed and/or shot at anyone

ona side note I've seen a buddy of mine (x-marine officer) who had a tendency to get "wild" while drinking.
I've seen hime be arrested and treated a bit on the rough side.
He collected so many drunk and disorderly arrests he used to joke
"when the cops see me walking the streets around the bars at night they think to themselves 'hey there's that guy,lets go arrest him,another 100 bucks for the city''"

 

[Austin316]

The fact that these animals who have undisputed due process are still looed upon as human by their fellow idiots is sickening, its whats wrong with this country, and its the very thing that creates environment for criminals and punks to run amuck and do whatever the want all the while believing nothing will happen to them because it ain't their fault no matter what they do.

I wish this fucker did what he did in a country that truly would have given him what he deserves. If the cops were smart they would have been calculating as they were with Dhamer. Put the animal in a cage surrounded by bigger hungrier animals with no way to escape. Make him cell mates with a red neck white power monger three times his size and then turn your back when its conveniant. Criminals just like animals, do take care of their own.

Its all about finding loopholes although anyone who condems these cops for what they did in my opinion has a fucked up way of looking at things. Until the law takes more of a crime control stance again and eases up on due process in the extremes (due process is a must in cases that are full of grey area but should be ignored when there is indisputable proof) and ALSO starts dishing out the law as a way to PUNISH people for what they do and not try to be all about rehabilitation. Lord knows we are quick to execute an animal for one small bite without a second thought, but will turn around and scream bloody murder if we do it to the animals among us

 

[DIVISION]

The fact that these animals who have undisputed due process are still looed upon as human by their fellow idiots is sickening, its whats wrong with this country, and its the very thing that creates environment for criminals and punks to run amuck and do whatever the want all the while believing nothing will happen to them because it ain't their fault no matter what they do.

I wish this fucker did what he did in a country that truly would have given him what he deserves. If the cops were smart they would have been calculating as they were with Dhamer. Put the animal in a cage surrounded by bigger hungrier animals with no way to escape. Make him cell mates with a red neck white power monger three times his size and then turn your back when its conveniant. Criminals just like animals, do take care of their own.

Its all about finding loopholes although anyone who condems these cops for what they did in my opinion has a fucked up way of looking at things. Until the law takes more of a crime control stance again and eases up on due process in the extremes (due process is a must in cases that are full of grey area but should be ignored when there is indisputable proof) and ALSO starts dishing out the law as a way to PUNISH people for what they do and not try to be all about rehabilitation. Lord knows we are quick to execute an animal for one small bite without a second thought, but will turn around and scream bloody murder if we do it to the animals among us

There's an animal inside you too, Austin.

There's an animal inside all of us.

Don't forget that.

Don't ever forget that.




DIV

 

[Austin316]

uh yea Im gonna go stab helpless old women in the head now, and then shoot a few cops int he face with a sawed off shotgun. After that maybe Ill go rape your mother and sister.

yep we all are animals all right, just like that guy

 

[DIVISION]

uh yea Im gonna go stab helpless old women in the head now, and then shoot a few cops int he face with a sawed off shotgun. After that maybe Ill go rape your mother and sister.

yep we all are animals all right, just like that guy

I didn't say we are animals in that context, Austin.

I'm just saying the potential lies inside all of us.

Mankind is quick to distinguish and segregate criminals from the rest of society, but really do you think there's that much seperating them from us?

Human is Human......





DIV

 

[Austin316]

humanity can be lost and people who don't believe that are blind to whats in front of them

 

[DIVISION]

humanity can be lost and people who don't believe that are blind to whats in front of them

One man's blindness is another man's salvation......




DIV

 

[Spartacus]

I didn't say we are animals in that context, Austin.

I'm just saying the potential lies inside all of us.

Mankind is quick to distinguish and segregate criminals from the rest of society, but really do you think there's that much seperating them from us?

Human is Human......





DIV

in 2005 america if the authorities started ramping up the "pressure" on muslims
ala 30s Nazi germany vis a vis the Jews
eventually rounding up all muslims to "protect homeland security"
etc,etc
what percentage of the US population would really give a damn?

 

[GoldenDelicious]

Funny -- whre are those those pro-criminal-rights folks who are so anti-prison-rape, here now to yell at the cops for doing this to him?

I knew it was a lazy fly-by-night cause-of-the-day for them.

right here, warden

i think that the cops should be brought up on charges for doing that. as said above, not only were they acting outside the law, but what they did will likely cost the state, at the very least, hundreds of thousands of dollars in litigation costs - not to mention how much it would cost if he were paid out AND will likely result in more lenient sentencing

...although i cant say taht i feel bad that somethign bad happened to this guy.

regardless, though, it was innappropriate, and unprofessional.

 

[Razorguns]

right here, warden

i think that the cops should be brought up on charges for doing that. as said above, not only were they acting outside the law, but what they did will likely cost the state, at the very least, hundreds of thousands of dollars in litigation costs - not to mention how much it would cost if he were paid out AND will likely result in more lenient sentencing

...although i cant say taht i feel bad that somethign bad happened to this guy.

regardless, though, it was innappropriate, and unprofessional.

That's good to hear. At least your opinion and stance regarding this stuff, is consistent.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

That's good to hear. At least your opinion and stance regarding this stuff, is consistent.

what, you didnt think i was arguing with you in the other thread just to be a bastard, did you

 

[T.E.]

Anyone ever heard of street justice? The guy had two kids. Two kids that won't have a father at their graduation, a wife with no husband. Grandchildren growing up with only stories of their grandfather. The family should sue this asshole for wrongful death and negate any fat payday he'll ever see.

 

[onerepmaximum]

Anyone ever heard of street justice? The guy had two kids. Two kids that won't have a father at their graduation, a wife with no husband. Grandchildren growing up with only stories of their grandfather. The family should sue this asshole for wrongful death and negate any fat payday he'll ever see.

That makes too much sense.

Translation: Not gonna happen.