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alfuhmale

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I'm trying a new source which accepts credit card or western union. I want to use the western union and use a fake name and have it mailed to an income property I own but do not live at. The order will be for around $600....does anyone know if they will ask me for an ID at western union?
 
You will have to show ID at western union..also the gov't watches all WU transactions...good luck.
 
Generally no for orders under $1,000. but there have been people here who have said that WU requires ID. I have never used an ID at WU and I always use a fake name.
 
odoyal rulez said:
You will have to show ID at western union..also the gov't watches all WU transactions...good luck.


you think I would be better off using the credit card then? Worst case I would just get a siezure letter right? I cant afford to the have the man knocking on my door due to my job.
 
not to start anything ,but why would you deal with someone that accepts credit cards? not the safest supplier id say.....also is your rental unit vacant?
 
bogazo said:
not to start anything ,but why would you deal with someone that accepts credit cards? not the safest supplier id say.....also is your rental unit vacant?


rental unit is vacant and as far as the source goes, I was using a local guy that is very unreliable and prices are way too high. The online source is an approved reseller of BD products. They actually just started accepting credit cards, b4 it was WU or nothing. I asked yesterday if anyone had anything good/bad to say about them but someone removed my thread.
 
if it is vacant that may be a bad idea....either the postman may know nobody lives (since they are there daily)there and leave a note or may not deliver it if its a package???im not 100% sure but seems risky??

im sure some sources use credit cards but would you want your info staying with them in there past transactions in there payment history incase they get popped? if my source offered me to pay by credit card i would probally take my business elsewhere to someone who is just as concerned as safety as profit
 
alfuhmale said:
you think I would be better off using the credit card then? Worst case I would just get a siezure letter right? I cant afford to the have the man knocking on my door due to my job.

DO NOT USE your personal credit card. That leaves a trail.
 
personally, i pay my source with W.U. online. i use my credit card, but they have no idea what its for. they do call you to verify that it was you who is sending the money and not some scammer. and they ask if you know the person your sending the cash to. i just tell em its a relative of mine who lives overseas. but thats just me.
 
i had an order for about 600 and never got checked for it...changed my name...same address to my house everything went smooth
 
you will not have to show id! and if you use a fake name if you send it wrong you will not be able to pick it up
 
bogazo said:
if it is vacant that may be a bad idea....either the postman may know nobody lives (since they are there daily)there and leave a note or may not deliver it if its a package???im not 100% sure but seems risky??

im sure some sources use credit cards but would you want your info staying with them in there past transactions in there payment history incase they get popped? if my source offered me to pay by credit card i would probally take my business elsewhere to someone who is just as concerned as safety as profit

the mail lady is cool, she wouldnt care. I just bought the place anyway and it has only been vacant for a couple weeks. I think I will try WU with the fake name delivered to the rental property. I will just keep trying different WU's if they ask for an ID. Thanks for the advice guys.
 
most wu wont ask for id, china is one of the countries where wu requires id...im not sure of any other countries that require it..
 
odoyal rulez said:
You will have to show ID at western union..also the gov't watches all WU transactions...good luck.

wrong and wrong. The govt. doesn't give a fuck about WU. next you are going to say that they just looked at the 6500 dollar deposit I made into my checking account. don't give the govt. so much credit.
 
I go to any little place that has Western Union and its as simple as filling out a little forum. Quick, easy, fast. A little exspensive though. I never showed ID.
 
Over 1K you will have to show, other than that, you should not have to. I use moneygram (it's cheaper), my real name & real addy but, hey that's just me.....
 
supertech69 said:
Over 1K you will have to show, other than that, you should not have to. I use moneygram (it's cheaper), my real name & real addy but, hey that's just me.....




TRUE!!
 
racoon_city said:

Am I?

http://www.westernunion.com/info/howToSendAgent.asp

Western Union Money Transfer® Service

How to Send a Western Union Money Transfer® Transaction in Person

It is simple to send money in person. Just go to any of our convenient participating Agent locations worldwide - we’re probably right around the corner.

You can find an Agent location in a variety of places. Supermarkets, grocery stores, and check cashers are just a few examples. In some countries, Agent locations may be in banks, travel agencies, post offices, airports, and currency exchange offices. So, wherever you are there’s probably an Agent location near you.

STEP 1: Complete the form
Fill out the required form. Then, simply show the Agent clerk your identification card,
if requested, and your Western Union® Gold Card, if you have one.
Accepted Forms of Identification




STEP 2: Present Payment
Give the Agent clerk the form, cash, or your debit card with Personal Identification Number (PIN), where accepted, and sign the receipt.


STEP 3: Get the Receipt
Your receipt will have the MTCN (Money Transfer Control Number) that will allow you to track the status of your money transfer over the phone or online.


Find a nearby Agent location.

You can save time, save money, and earn rewards with the Western Union® Gold Card.
Learn more


AND


http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_02/b3966094.htm

3rd paragraph down

But e-gold also appeals to savvy online crooks who want to move money quickly and without detection. American banks and conventional cash transmitters like Western Union are legally required to monitor customers and report suspicious transactions to the government.




I stand by my original post.
 
odoyal rulez said:
Am I?

http://www.westernunion.com/info/howToSendAgent.asp

Western Union Money Transfer® Service

How to Send a Western Union Money Transfer® Transaction in Person

It is simple to send money in person. Just go to any of our convenient participating Agent locations worldwide - we’re probably right around the corner.

You can find an Agent location in a variety of places. Supermarkets, grocery stores, and check cashers are just a few examples. In some countries, Agent locations may be in banks, travel agencies, post offices, airports, and currency exchange offices. So, wherever you are there’s probably an Agent location near you.

STEP 1: Complete the form
Fill out the required form. Then, simply show the Agent clerk your identification card,
if requested, and your Western Union® Gold Card, if you have one.
Accepted Forms of Identification




STEP 2: Present Payment
Give the Agent clerk the form, cash, or your debit card with Personal Identification Number (PIN), where accepted, and sign the receipt.


STEP 3: Get the Receipt
Your receipt will have the MTCN (Money Transfer Control Number) that will allow you to track the status of your money transfer over the phone or online.


Find a nearby Agent location.

You can save time, save money, and earn rewards with the Western Union® Gold Card.
Learn more


AND


http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_02/b3966094.htm

3rd paragraph down

But e-gold also appeals to savvy online crooks who want to move money quickly and without detection. American banks and conventional cash transmitters like Western Union are legally required to monitor customers and report suspicious transactions to the government.




I stand by my original post.
You really cant be that stupid,Then, simply show the Agent clerk your identification card,IF REQUESTED****
What dont you get???
 
What don't you understand, I stated that they do ask for ID, I have been asked for ID, their own website says that they do ask for ID, just because they don't ask for it everytime, doesnt mean that they won't, it is an official policy.
 
odoyal rulez said:
What don't you understand, I stated that they do ask for ID, I have been asked for ID, their own website says that they do ask for ID, just because they don't ask for it everytime, doesnt mean that they won't, it is an official policy.

listen u moron

if u send 1k or if u send to a hot country u need to show id

but 99% of the time u dont have to!
 
I just used WU today and sent $600 without using ID. Keep in mind if you use the wrong address or name you may not get it
 
get a web only credit card, available at most pharmacies...just put the amount you want on it, and there is no record...you activate it on line, and can make immediate purchases...no id theft can occur and very difficult to trace

sometimes everyone is a little too paranoid....
 
racoon_city said:
listen u moron

if u send 1k or if u send to a hot country u need to show id

but 99% of the time u dont have to!



Yeah? No shit. Thanks for reposting exactly what I said...again.

Did you not read his question? I told him that he would have to show it sometimes, and that WU is monitored by the gov't.

So why the drama?
 
where excatly do you get the info that WU is being monitored???

pls post link ir else ur full of shit!
 
racoon_city said:
where excatly do you get the info that WU is being monitored???

pls post link ir else ur full of shit!


I've already posted the link. Please take the time to actually read my post before you judge me. I'm not here to stir shit, I am just trying to honestly help the person that started this thread. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but WU does have the right to ask for ID, any time they feel like it, even though most of the douchebags that work their don't care. But you better believe that if one of them is having a bad day, or feels like being a prick, they will do it.

However when you are done reading the link I already posted...here are a few more to prove my point:

http://cryptome.org/western-union.htm
For years, U.S. government authorities had few quarrels with Western Union because the company has long been very helpful, assisting federal agencies in the investigations of everything from human trafficking to drug-money laundering to Nigerian investment scams. Thanks to the way Western Union's computer system is set up, a record for each wire transfer passes through central servers in the U.S. Thus transaction data can be obtained by federal agencies with nothing more than a "National Security Letter" obliging Western Union to hand them over.

https://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/000783.html
According to the report the “New York Time” confirmed official one of the US authorities besides, agreement with credit card or transaction enterprises limited such as Western union to have been received. The affair represents a clear interference anyhow for Pieth into the liberty rights of the citizens, and it is strained, as Swiss authorities will justify themselves.

http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/06/president_bush_.html
the New York Times story revealing the administration’s monitoring of bank records “disgraceful,” and said the decision to publish details of the program “does great harm to the United States of America.”

First Data Corp., the world's largest processor of credit-card transactions and wire transfers, gave the FBI and CIA unfettered access to data on millions of customers shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, a new book alleges.

First Data's computer systems served as the "FBI's own in-house search engine," and the CIA was allowed to monitor money-wire transactions in real time, according to "The One Percent Doctrine" by Pulitzer Prize winner Ron Suskind.




I can post more, but this proves my point...you are being monitored, and western union allows it to happen, as a matter of fact, they have been blocking all transfers with Arabian Names, such as Muhammed etc..until where the transfer is going is verified, talk about profiling...
 
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