Well shoot boys, need advice!

[dannyBrown]

Hello Elite Fitness. I am hoping some of you guys can give me some advice on this dilemma I have.

Here is some background info..

I am 28, an avid gym goer, and steroid enthusiast. I have been cycling since my late teens. First cycle was the summer after I graduated high school. Sometime I few years ago, I made the decision to not come off, and began blasting and cruising. I do this responsibly. I usually blast for 3-4 month, then come off for 2 months, then get back at it. I always monitor my bloods, take plenty of support supps, and even donate blood regularly.

Now here is the problem. Yesterday, I was sentenced to serve 45 days in jail. I was lucky enough to get a somewhat delayed sentence, and don't have to report to my new temporary living quarters until September 1. I got done with my most recent blast at the end of July, so I have been cruising for a few weeks. By now, I am sure you guys can see my dilemma. With the amount of time I have, plus the time period of I have been on, I think attempting any type of PCT would be a waste. I have come up with a few scenarios to help solve my problem, but all of them are a shot in the dark.

Option 1 - Ride it out. Then get back on when I am released.

Option 2 - Go to the Doc and get a script for Test and an AI asap. Then hope those kind of medications are allowed in Jail so I can just continue cruising.

Options 3 - Shoot 500mg of Test Undecanoate the morning before I report to jail. But I won't have an AI in jail, and the Test won't be in my system for my entire stay.

Each option has it's pros and cons. Just wondering what you guys would do if you were in this position. All feedback is appreciated.

 

[buddhabuilder]

I'm leaning towrds the Doc Rx at this point. You can do it with a topical and keep it low enough for no AI would be needed.

 

[dannyBrown]

That is the route I am trying to take, but it is the most complicated one. I already have a visit scheduled for tomorrow with the Doc, but by time bloods are done, and a follow up visit happens, there might not be enough time for me to get a script. That is also assuming that he will even write me a script. And even if all that falls into place, there is no guarantee the jail will allow that kind of medication. They usually don't allow any kind of controlled substances, even with a script. I also know a Doc that is a very good family friend, so I may resort to asking him if he can write me a script, but I don't want to sink to that level just yet.

 

[Jaybird1120]

Well if the doc thing fails I'd go with shooting the test right before it'll by u at least 17 days at best but it's better than nothing at all. Not like you'll need your sex drive on track right away, unless that's your kinda thing I can see that being a downside but no judgement here


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[unc0mm0n]

Shooting 1000 mg of Test Undecanoate at once (the whole 1000 mg in the same spot/muscle) lasts anywhere from 8 to 12 weeks.The problem with that is the PIP , which is pretty bad the first 3 days. That should be enough to keep your muscle mass.If you cruise on a high dose, you could do 2 injections of 1000 mg.

Most doctors in Europe prescribe ¨Nebido¨ for TRT , since you need only 1 injection every 2 months or so to keep your test at normal levels.

 

[dannyBrown]

I am more concerned with losing a shit ton of muscle and strength, as well as estrogen rebound while I am in there. Not having much of a sex drive wouldn't effect me much lol.

The only thing I don't like about the Test U is that I won't have an AI!

 

[stevesmi]

if you shoot up a long ester before it will last you many weeks until it tapers away.. why do you need to be on juice in jail anyway? all you do in there is sleep, read, watch tv, etc. not like you are going to a swingers resort for 45 days.. its jail

 

[dannyBrown]

I don't want to be on a cycle or blast while in jail, I want to maintain my cruise. I just see myself getting out of jail being scrawny with a nice set of tits. Trying to avoid that. I am probably over reacting about this, the entire thing is just a mind fuck. And I am going to be doing 1,000 push ups and sit ups a day! Maybe even some squats if I can talk a bro into climbing on my shoulders!

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ if you come out scrawny from being off for a week or two then you never had a base to begin with.

 

[dannyBrown]

I have plenty of base. I will be in there for 45 days, which makes 30 with good time. So 4 weeks or a month, not a week for 2.

 

[stevesmi]

I have plenty of base. I will be in there for 45 days, which makes 30 with good time. So 4 weeks or a month, not a week for 2.

I'm sorry I didn't make my post more understandable for you... so let me put it this way.

if you run a long ester and inject before you go in it will be in your system for several weeks before clearing. hence you will be off juice for a week or two... if you really think your muscles will shrink that fast then yes you have no base.

seems like (and don't get all self defensive with me) that you started juicing as a teen and now you are just addicted to it so the mere thought of not having it in your system even a day makes you paranoid.

if I can go most of the year OFF JUICE and still maintain my strength and muscle then surely you can go a week or two and keep yours. so quit worrying and learn from your mistake (what are you going in for anyway?) if you are lifting in there and eating then you will stay anabolic from that..

 

[1ugafreak]

He's got a good point there listen. Mental game is way more than juice game.


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[1ugafreak]

He's got a good point there listen. Mental game is way more than juice game.


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[dannyBrown]

I am 240 pounds, at probably around 10% body fat. So I think that is plenty of a base.


There is difference between me and you. I blast and cruise, and you cycle on and off. Since I have been on Test for a long time, coming off isn't much of an option. This would be almost the same as you having to suddenly stop a cycle half way through, without being able to do any sort of PCT. I am sure you would not like that situation if you were in that position. And yes, not having Test in my system, and not being able to produce and adequate amount does bother me. But you made your point, and thank you for the advice.


I was convicted of having a concealed weapon without a permit.


This is what happened in a nut sell. I own a good amount of guns, legally. I had a handgun in my trunk, unloaded, in it's case. You do not have to have a concealed weapons permit for this. This is basically how you legally transport a gun from location to location. Well, I wasn't really transporting the gun anywhere, it had just been in my trunk for awhile. Anyways, earlier this summer, I was at a camp ground with a bunch of family, and an incident arouse. My uncle got into the trunk, and grabbed my handgun out of the case. He didn't load the gun or anything, he just had it to try to control the situation, and protect family.


The police were called and all of that good stuff. They asked who's gun it was. I told them it was mine, and a lot of question in-sued. After awhile, no charges were filed and we were all free to go. They said they would be in touch.


A few days later, the police showed up to my house and arrested me, charging me with a felony. I bonded myself out, got a lawyer and all that. The lawyer basically said there is no way that will stick, and at worst I will have to pay a fine and get on probation. Whatever, not a huge deal. Well basically, the prosecutor offered me 1 plea deal, or I would have to fight the felony charges and maybe get convicted and have to spend years in jail. So I pleaded no contest to the misdemeanor of having a concealed weapon without a permit. I ended up getting sentenced to jail time, and a $1500 fine.


Basically, what made me guilty was that the gun was easily available to a passenger in the car. It is legal to transport the gun the way I had it, but since someone in the car with me new where it was, and could easily get it out, it was considered a concealed weapon and not just transporting it.

 

[bluetoolpaul]

I am 240 pounds, at probably around 10% body fat. So I think that is plenty of a base.


There is difference between me and you. I blast and cruise, and you cycle on and off. Since I have been on Test for a long time, coming off isn't much of an option. This would be almost the same as you having to suddenly stop a cycle half way through, without being able to do any sort of PCT. I am sure you would not like that situation if you were in that position. And yes, not having Test in my system, and not being able to produce and adequate amount does bother me. But you made your point, and thank you for the advice.


I was convicted of having a concealed weapon without a permit.


This is what happened in a nut sell. I own a good amount of guns, legally. I had a handgun in my trunk, unloaded, in it's case. You do not have to have a concealed weapons permit for this. This is basically how you legally transport a gun from location to location. Well, I wasn't really transporting the gun anywhere, it had just been in my trunk for awhile. Anyways, earlier this summer, I was at a camp ground with a bunch of family, and an incident arouse. My uncle got into the trunk, and grabbed my handgun out of the case. He didn't load the gun or anything, he just had it to try to control the situation, and protect family.


The police were called and all of that good stuff. They asked who's gun it was. I told them it was mine, and a lot of question in-sued. After awhile, no charges were filed and we were all free to go. They said they would be in touch.


A few days later, the police showed up to my house and arrested me, charging me with a felony. I bonded myself out, got a lawyer and all that. The lawyer basically said there is no way that will stick, and at worst I will have to pay a fine and get on probation. Whatever, not a huge deal. Well basically, the prosecutor offered me 1 plea deal, or I would have to fight the felony charges and maybe get convicted and have to spend years in jail. So I pleaded no contest to the misdemeanor of having a concealed weapon without a permit. I ended up getting sentenced to jail time, and a $1500 fine.


Basically, what made me guilty was that the gun was easily available to a passenger in the car. It is legal to transport the gun the way I had it, but since someone in the car with me new where it was, and could easily get it out, it was considered a concealed weapon and not just transporting it.

That's completely fucked up bro...i'm pissed about having to do 3 days in october....wow.....i feel for you dude...that is an amazingly bullshit law.

 

[Jaybird1120]

Some laws are fucking screwy I got charged with 2 violent c felonies for "robbery in the 2nd degree with bodily injury" basically a coworker smashed my window in my 82 trans am and stole a bunch of shit out of it , which I guess was ok so when I broke his jaw, nose and gave him 8 staples that wasn't ok.... Here's the screwy part I took his phone and broke it so he couldn't call the cops that's what made it a felony... I got off kinda good considering got 6 month in county 2 yrs house arrest and 3 yrs ISP probation (intensive supervision program) then 5 yr felony probation (basically 2 yrs tacked at the end of the 3 yrs) and 2000 restitution, could have been worse lol


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[Essie]

Shit luck man!

Regarding the worry you have about the Test being out of your system ... I wouldn't worry too much about it. You have a couple weeks left before going in, so just load up the long estered Test. What is you ester and cruise dosage? You could look at upping the weekly dosage now already and jamming a decent dosage prior to going in. That way you'll have a fair few weeks before the level of Test in your system drops low and within a week, week-'n-a-half you'll be out. Then you can either get some Sust in your system, or pin Prop for a few weeks alongside your normal cruising ester.

 

[stevesmi]

sounds like your uncle owes you bigtime for getting you into that mess.

i'm guessing he got mad that someone was close to your camp site so he decided to grab a gun, pretty no win option on that. probably best thing would have been to just move your camp somewhere else away from those white trash. you gotta remember who to pick fights with, they probably had guns with them too a long with a lot of beer (cause we all know that primitive man brewed beer right?)... alcohol + guns = problems

if I ever go camping I will stay the fuck away with other people.. far far away

 

[dannyBrown]

Seems the government will do just about anything to get some money. I don't blame my uncle one bit, I think he did the right thing. He had 2 of his teenage daughters with him. The situation was just out of hand. I don't expect anything from him, but he offered to pay my fines.

The situation that caused the problem was fueled by a bunch of redneck college kids, or at least the age of college kids. They were going around looking to jump people, and their intentions were very racially motivated, or at least in my opinion. It was me, my uncle, his 2 teenage daughters, and my other cousin that is 10. We were in the parking lot, heading back to my car. The kids were outside taunting everyone as they went by, or at least the none white people. Then they started following us, and running their mouths, obviously looking to start something. It would not have been a big deal, but there was at least 10 of them. By time we reached my car, all hell was going to break lose. Then my Uncle grabbed the gun and asked if there was going to be a problem. 30 seconds later the police were there.

Anyways, my Doc appointment went as I thought. I have another appointment scheduled for next week, so I don't think there is going to be enough time to get a script for anything.

Right now I am just cruising on 250mg of Test, with .5mg of adex twice per week. Do you think I should start pinning the Test U now, or wait?

 

[stevesmi]

start pinning now so it builds up in your system. then the day before you report pin one last time. it will stay in your system at good amounts for 2-3 weeks, and at small amounts 5 weeks or so..

as for your story these damn teenage kids when they are in groups act like absolute buffoons and feed off each others stupidity.. they try and look cool around each other.. I probably would have done the same thing your uncle did, although it still is a no win situation

 

[dannyBrown]

Great, thanks for the advice bro. Much appreciated!

How much do you think I should pin? I am thinking 500mg a week, and then 1000mg the day before I go in. Also, do you think so HCG before hand would help at all? I have never ran anything without an AI, so hopefully I am not too prone to estrogen.

I think the most fucked up thing about the entire situation is that I am the only one that was arrested and charged with anything. Oh well though.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ hcg would be absolutely pointless and only increase your estrogen (probably)

yeah I would do what you wrote.. that is fine.. only thing I would do different is not 1 big shot of 1000mg.. do 1 shot of 500mg am and 500mg pm the day before you report so you don't get PIP or get lightheaded ... and make sure you have the cornbread ready for bubba when you arrive. that's the #1 thing.. and #2 don't drop the soap !

as for AI just take some leading up to it.. they generally will stay in your system for days so that's better than nothing

 

[dylangemelli]

i assure you that you can rule out option 2... generally in jail, your going to have to make do with extremely limited resources of everything, and i mean everything... you can do curls with trash cans, dips on chairs, pull ups on your cell door etc but the issue is the lack of food you will be getting, lack of sunlight, etc... the best you can do is come up with everything you can think of... a lot of circuits like burpees, plyometric jumps, etc... take the big shot of undecanoate before you go in and ride it out... then as soon as you come back, jump right back on... MAKE SURE you keep your nose clean in there so they don't take your good time... if its just 30 days, you will be fine... get plenty of sleep, drink plenty of water and keep to yourself as much as possible... your not going to be able to eat very clean but trade any shit food or syrup fruits for vegetables... 95% of the guys in there just throw the vegetables away, so get them from them when you can...

 

[Jaybird1120]

Jail I was in they limit tuna to 7 packs an order so what i did is buy my 7 packs and a ton of garbage and trade it all for tuna, that's about as clean as it gets in there. And like the post above me mentioned veggies are always in abundance.


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