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Well, I have to get my knee scoped on friday.....

EmptyWallet said:
I'm really just wanting to get back to squating, deadlifting and the like. I know its going to take a while, but I just hope I don't have any problems when i do start back. You guys who had it done, you can do all the things you like to do lifting wise and your ok? I wonder when i can be squating again, I wonder how long. Couple of months at least I would imagine.
The problem with those procedures is that the feedback you get here is biased (of course mine appears that way as well) and the reason I say that is because the people who have had that surgery done and it wasnt successfull wont be here to reply. There are thousands of people walking around who have had surgery with little or no positive effects.

The only thing that wont heal is a complete seperation, aside from that everything will repair itself if it is allowed too. I sprainged my ankle huge many years back and its never been the same. Over the last couple years I developed plantar fasciitis (sp?) and started to get it treated with prolo, the initial treatment was just the heel but after talking to the doc a bit more about my old spraine he realizes the plantar fasciitis could have developed due to the ankle instability so second time I went in he hit the ankle too. It makes a lot of popping noses and stuff when I first get up and start moving. The poping can be escaping fluid (like when you crack your knuckles) or tendons ligaments getting out of line, stretching/snapping back etc. All of this can be caused by laxity in the joint and there is nothing your doc can do for that and in all honesty his methods so far (ie vioxx) will actually be detrimental in the long run since they trade comfort for healing.

All I am saying is that after a few weeks and a couple visits to a prolotherapist you will know if it is helping, if not you can always go back under the knife. But once you go under the knife there is no turning back and you will have to deal with whats been done. Many fo my Docs patients are those who have exhausted all other means to cope with their injuries. Many have had surgery which they were told would fix this or that and years later still suffer from pain and finally seek him for help.

Keep in mind prolotherapists are all full fledged docs, not like chiros and such (and that wasnt meant to slam chiro's). Many chose to persue prolotherapy after years being in practice and realizing that more often than not the treatments they used did not work for sports injury and chronic pain and since many doctors have a passion for helping people resume their active lifestyles they were not content just being a doc and shuttling people through the office, they wanted to get them back into the lifestyle they were used to.
 
Is this similar to active release therapy zyg?

That's what I was about to suggest empty wallet.
 
Zyglamail said:
....and since many doctors have a passion for helping people resume their active lifestyles they were not content just being a doc and shuttling people through the office, they wanted to get them back into the lifestyle they were used to.
I can't believe how long it took me to find a doc with this mentality.

9 out of 10 doctors.......
"You're too big for your frame"
"consider a lifestyle change"
"You shouldn't be lifting things that heavy if you're not a professional athlete"
"forget the weights and be a swimmer"
:mad: :rolleyes:
 
Debaser said:
Is this similar to active release therapy zyg?

That's what I was about to suggest empty wallet.
I think active release is good for minor sprains/strains etc but in a more severe case like empty's it just wont cut the mustard.

Prolotherapy hase been around since the 30's (if my memory serves me correctly) and is a tried and true method for helping the body heal itself. It does this by causing severe localized inflamation, which as I have been toughting for some time, is the key element in healing.

This localized inflamation is caused by direct injections into the tendons/ligaments of the injured area. The solution used will vary based on the client, the doc and the area of the injury, but the most common is simply dextrose with some lydocain to help with the localized pain. The procedure takes just a few minutes and your done with followup visits ranging from 2-6 week intervals and number of treatments also varies depending on severity of injury etc, but 3-6 is common.

Having had it done for various injuries that just never seemed to heal on their own I can say it works and it works well.

I can't believe how long it took me to find a doc with this mentality.
Thats the nice thing about prolo docs Thaibox, they all seem to have that mentality.
 
Ya know Zyg, before I had my recent back surgery, you told me about prolo and I looked into it. I wanted to pursue it further, but my back was so back that I went under the knife right away for 2 discs. 1 seems to be 100%. The other didn't work so well:( .

Fortunately, I still have a few bad discs, both knees have bad problems, as well as my right rotator. So I will have plenty of opportunities to try prolo. I just have to find someone in my area now. Hopefully in a couple months I'll be sending you daily Karma and deadlifting again:)
 
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